Explosion at Vape Blast

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Exactly Andria. It's all about the risk versus the benefit for me. The two most dangerous things I do are drive a car and woodworking. I hurt myself more often with workshop tools than anything else, but those incidents have always been minor cuts and bruises, though you can lose a finger if you do the wrong thing. I've only been in a couple of car accidents, but the chance of an accident becoming really serious is a lot higher than with a workshop accident. I still do and will continue to do both activities because the benefits from doing them outweigh the risks for me.

At one point in my last severe go-round with depression and anxiety, I became so terrified of riding in a car that I very often ended up cringing down in the footwell, hugging myself, squealing at every brake or curve. My therapist even told me that my fear was NOT irrational, given the mortality stats on vehicular accidents, it was only my extreme reaction to that fear that had become irrational -- guess that's one of the things that PTSD can do to you.

The only way I found to fix it was when we bought a truck -- being so much higher-up gave me more confidence; being in such a well-made, sturdy vehicle (Chevy Silverado) made me feel more secure, and I was finally able to go out and about again, without turning into a whimpering basket case. But my terror was based on the fact that at least 50% of drivers behind the wheel are NOT paying attention to the road or their driving -- maybe more like 75% -- they're talking on their iphones, fiddling with the radio, doing their hair and/or makeup, eating, screaming at their kids, or -- GOD FORBID! -- texting. And all it takes is ONE slip of attention to create a whole new traffic fatality.

People are mostly stupid and I don't trust them to tie their shoes, nevermind drive a car. But at least now I'm in a truck, so I'm slightly more insulated from that type of stupidity. I guess now I'll have to just stay home and not attend any vape meets, because the overwhelming stupidity of the majority of the human race is now at play with powerful batteries that they don't have the first clue how to use *safely*, and most likely don't have any intention of learning -- because then they might have to -- OMG! -- read something. :facepalm:

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Andria.... we live in the same neck of the woods. I commute to Peachtree Corners Circle everyday on a Motorcycle, if it's not raining. Talk about scary sometimes sSc_shocker.gif

I totally get the truck thing too. I also drive a 2500 Dodge diesel and I feel a lot safer in that.
 

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Well done Ryedan. Now if only we could get members to stop posting his nauseous vids..........

I'm the guilty party here. I think it's important to share videos like these so that - at the very least - we can all try to comment and try to get him to stop. Some people would take great pleasure in seeing him injured for his stupidity. I personally would like to try to help him avoid maiming himself or worse. At the very least, we could all raise a complaint and try to have his videos removed from YouTube to stop some other soul following his advice.
 

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I'm the guilty party here. I think it's important to share videos like these so that - at the very least - we can all try to comment and try to get him to stop. Some people would take great pleasure in seeing him injured for his stupidity. I personally would like to try to help him avoid maiming himself or worse. At the very least, we could all raise a complaint and try to have his videos removed from YouTube to stop some other soul following his advice.

I posted a link too. I know that's giving him exposure, but I thought it was worth it in this case and in this company and that was before I knew he went on to stack batteries in that mod. IMO the more comments and complaints we get in there the better :thumb:
 

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Andria.... we live in the same neck of the woods. I commute to Peachtree Corners Circle everyday on a Motorcycle, if it's not raining. Talk about scary sometimes View attachment 366559

I totally get the truck thing too. I also drive a 2500 Dodge diesel and I feel a lot safer in that.

For me it was 285 that was the Big Bad -- 6 lanes of idiots on the phone all trying to get wherever faster than anyone else. :facepalm: My therapist was at the KP out in the Cumberland Pkwy area, so we had to negotiate the WORST part of 285 to get there -- and I'd arrive sweaty and shaking for every visit.

Now that we live in Lawrenceville (we lived out in Winder for 13 yrs, so a huge commute just to GET to metro ATL!), and my husband works in L'ville, it's much easier on my nerves. Also, the truck of course -- and actually driving rather than riding helps a great deal too. :thumb:

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Re: Phil's video,

I seriously thought he was going to lose it when he pulled out those ohmmeters.

Re: :censored: on YouTube

He's eating this up. Videos posted 2, 4, 5, 6, 20 hours ago & another 5 yesterday. One even subtitled, "Vape Safe. Know your batteries."

On the plus side, even though he's getting the attention, responsible vapers are taking notice & pointing out how dangerous he's being. Only a few idiots clicked the thumbs up on any of them.
 

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Excellent post, right up to the age limit thing. I'm over twice that age and don't sub ohm because I simply don't care to. You can drink, get hooked on cigarettes, get a license to drive a deadly weapon, you can be a cop, you can go to war and get yourself killed but nope, you can't vape. otherwise excellent post.


Excellent point. This is supposed to be about -- say it with me -- HARM REDUCTION!!! Not "spare your lungs and blow up your battery so someone gets injured/maimed/killed"!

I'd almost be willing to bet that those of us who are vaping in order to refrain from smoking, and PARTICULARLY those who are vaping in order to break a very long cigarette habit, are a lot more careful than those who are vaping because it's "cool". Think about how carefully we always attended to having sufficient cigarettes, and a place to consume them (since a great many people have moved smoking outdoors even at their own homes). Think about how careful we always had to be to avoid setting ashtrays on fire, dropping hot cinders on our clothes, and in latter days, offending non-smokers. People who are that careful are most likely NOT the ones exploding batteries!

Maybe the age limit on vaping shouldn't be 18+ but maybe 25+ !!! So that the person handling the vape devices have had time to mature a little, and not be so concerned about "cool". Or at least restrict mechs to that age group; everyone under 25 gets cigalikes! :D

I'm sure a bunch of sub-25ers will now start yelling and screaming. Go fer it -- you're outnumbered here, and you know it'll never fly anyway. ;)

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This guy reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.... even after everyone tells him how ......ed he is, he just keeps on going. Is it bad that I'm now rooting for a catastrophic battery explosion to happen to this guy?

Yep, it is, though I keep having to slap myself to curb those thoughts.
 

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Excellent post, right up to the age limit thing. I'm over twice that age and don't sub ohm because I simply don't care to. You can drink, get hooked on cigarettes, get a license to drive a deadly weapon, you can be a cop, you can go to war and get yourself killed but nope, you can't vape. otherwise excellent post.

Well as I pointed out, it wouldn't fly anyway -- it's just silly. But the main point does stand -- *adults* generally are more careful, more mindful of consequences, than anyone in the 18-25 age group. And yes I know that legally those ARE adults... but in actuality? They're just superannuated adolescents. And very obviously as well, not everyone over 25 has attained that kind of careful mindfulness, as witnessed by all those reckless fools on the road doing everything BUT paying attention to the road.

But you know these idiots hollering about protecting "the chiiiildren"... Protecting them so assiduously is one reason that 18-25 yr olds ARE just superannuated adolescents, because one of the things they're being protected FROM is the consequences of their own actions. If people would start treating young adults LIKE adults, including holding them responsible for their actions, maybe they'd ACT more like adults.

Or maybe not. Wisdom is most often attained by suffering the consequences of one's own foolishness, and no one can protect you from that, and no one ought to try. I bet the guy at Vape Blast with the exploding mod will not forget again to make sure his mod is locked -- because he learned the hard way what happens if one doesn't.

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This guy reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.... even after everyone tells him how ......ed he is, he just keeps on going. Is it bad that I'm now rooting for a catastrophic battery explosion to happen to this guy?

I don't think so. That Darwin guy was really on to something.

The downside is how the media is going to spin it, even though there's dozens of vapers pointing out how stupid he's being.

I did learn one thing because of his videos. Not from them, though. Before I watched, I never even looked at 26mm batteries. Between the VapeBash incident & this :censored: I decided to do a little digging. I didn't realize that they're printing pulse amp limits on most of them instead of continuous. The battery industry used to look down on us, but it seems those dollar signs got in their eyes.
 

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Agreed. It's sort of appalling how coddled and over protected children are today. They, many of them, aren't held accountable for their actions and their parents couldn't give a flying cow pie about what they are up to. If this kid had been mine, I would make him apologize to those present that he might have injured, maimed or killed. I'm pretty confident this episode happened out of sheer ignorance. The question is how does the vaping community get through to these kids to do it safely? These kids tootling away on their mods may lead to a future generation of engineers and that is not a bad thing. Having kids interested in anything that requires functioning brain cells is a fantastic.

ETA: By kids I mean the 18 and older set.


Well as I pointed out, it wouldn't fly anyway -- it's just silly. But the main point does stand -- *adults* generally are more careful, more mindful of consequences, than anyone in the 18-25 age group. And yes I know that legally those ARE adults... but in actuality? They're just superannuated adolescents. And very obviously as well, not everyone over 25 has attained that kind of careful mindfulness, as witnessed by all those reckless fools on the road doing everything BUT paying attention to the road.

But you know these idiots hollering about protecting "the chiiiildren"... Protecting them so assiduously is one reason that 18-25 yr olds ARE just superannuated adolescents, because one of the things they're being protected FROM is the consequences of their own actions. If people would start treating young adults LIKE adults, including holding them responsible for their actions, maybe they'd ACT more like adults.

Or maybe not. Wisdom is most often attained by suffering the consequences of one's own foolishness, and no one can protect you from that, and no one ought to try. I bet the guy at Vape Blast with the exploding mod will not forget again to make sure his mod is locked -- because he learned the hard way what happens if one doesn't.

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Agreed. It's sort of appalling how coddled and over protected children are today. They, many of them, aren't held accountable for their actions and their parents couldn't give a flying cow pie about what they are up to. If this kid had been mine, I would make him apologize to those present that he might have injured, maimed or killed. I'm pretty confident this episode happened out of sheer ignorance. The question is how does the vaping community get through to these kids to do it safely? These kids tootling away on their mods may lead to a future generation of engineers and that is not a bad thing. Having kids interested in anything that requires functioning brain cells is a fantastic.

ETA: By kids I mean the 18 and older set.


That question, of getting thru to "kids," is probably the $64,000 question of the ages.

Wisdom is most often attained by suffering the consequences of one's own foolishness...

Having been an extremely foolish youth myself, I'll stand by that. It's really a bloody miracle I'm still here. :D

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There is a local shop here that wants to put on a cloud comp but the owner is hesitant for this exact reason. There a lot of idiots out there that have no clue ... they are doing with a mech mod. I got my first mech from them and they taught me what I needed to know and stressed how important the ohm meter was. The owner is a master electrician. He says buying a mech mod is kinda like owning an airplane, just because you have it doesn't mean you can operate it safely lol!!!
 
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