Extracted Tobacco Residue: Tired of it. Any help?

[acleme1]

I vape 2 juices: Patriot from Goodejuice and Grandpa's Night Cap from Quick Nic. Both are extracted tobacco juices, and play hell on my equipment. For instance:

Cartos: Boge cartos last me 1 day before I get the horrible burnt atty taste.

Carto Tanks: I can get about 4mls of juice through them before I have to change the carto because of the burnt taste. So I get about 1.5 days from each carto.

Genesis DID: Tastes amazing for about a day. But then I have to replace the coil every night because of buildup around the wick and coil. The buildup is so bad that it covers everything in one big mound...the center post, wick, negative post, etc.

Penelope and Oddysseus: I can't even get these to last me an entire day. The vapor and flavor are absolutely incredible for about 4 hours, then I start getting that burnt juice taste and I know it's done.

Between the DID, Penelope, Odysseus, and my Provari I have about $600 invested in vaping (not to mention the hundreds of juices I've tried) and I can't even get a setup that lasts for my than a day.

I'm getting very frustrated. I've tried using clearer juices that don't contain extracted tobacco, but I just don't like them.

Any one else out there had similar problems and found a solution? Any tips or help would be very much appreciated.

 

[glauserjg]

Use a dripping atty like the hh357 and run vodka through them
Everynight

 

[RPadTV]

I'm vaping NET juices on a Kanger T3, simply because it's easy to clean and maintain. Generally, I prefer carto/tanks, but haven't had luck with NET juices in them.

 

[anavidfan]

Well its well known that NET tobacco are carto killers/ or at least hard on them. Its all a matter of how much you enjoy them and how much you are willing to sacrifice for them. I love my NETs so much that I sacrifice the carto life and I do have to clean my atties more often and so on. Every time I try to go to non- NETs I regret it because I just cant get used to the synthetic taste of the non-NETs. I cant get into the fruity juices and thats where I am.
Now if you want more carto friendly NET tobaccos, try out Heathers Heavenly Vapes. They are the most carto friendly NETs, with Goodejuice lighter coloured ones. Unfortunately my favorite Goodejuice tobacco are the real dark , almost black ones and they gunk things up.

I did try one juce by http://www................../flavor.php?flav=3295&show=8&q=tobacco absolute
they have one called Virginias best that is great tasting, I dont think is an NET but its the most realistic one Ive tasted.
I hope that helps.

My favorite NETs are The Plume Room NETs but I love them so much I sacrifice cartos to the juice gods daily. I love TPR so much I bought an Odysseus just so I can save money on cartos, but after 6 mls I do have to clean the wick and dry burn, but its worth it.

PS I almost forgot Ahlusion NETs. THey are not for everyone, they are very very tobacco in taste. Very strong and quality, I have only tried thier Devil Dog and the blue grass burley. They are both real strong in taste and scent, so much so I cut them with PG/VG and double them. They are very carto freindly but again Ive only tried those 2.

 

[steved5600]

Cleaning helps no need to keep tossing or rewicking.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/7300-newbies-guide-cleaning-your-atomizer.html
I still use some of my attys/head on my clearos CE5's and Vivi nova's. I soak them in alcohol no need to spend money on grain alcohol use isopropyl works just fine if you rinse it and let it dry. I do the dry burn thing in my rapairables etc.

 

[Absintheur]

I think I would stay with bridgeless 306's as much as possible and just be prepared to dump them in a glass of vodka to clean and then set out to dry for the next day and just keep enough in rotation to keep you going. It is a pain in the .... but unless you really enjoy making coils it might be the easiest.

 

[dsy5]

I don't know what to say - anything that gunks up the equipment that quickly would make me shy away from it altogether.

 

[Unforeseen]

Moved to General E-Liquid Discussion

 

[gthompson]

I don't know what to say - anything that gunks up the equipment that quickly would make me shy away from it altogether.

If you develop a taste for NETS nothing else compares.

 

[anavidfan]

I don't know what to say - anything that gunks up the equipment that quickly would make me shy away from it altogether.

Normally I would agree, but when you love the flavour so much, that when you make the decission, what is it worth to you and how much are you prepared to do to enjoy it. Thats why there are so many different methods of juice delivery and so many juice houses out there to choose from. I guess for me its all about the taste. If I dont like what Im vaping, than Id be smoking again. I tried to use carto/ wick friendly juice but I just cant do without them.

 

[anavidfan]

yes, very true gt. It like trying to get used to sweet and low and all those sugar substitutes, some people dont even notice the flavour and some can taste the sugar substitutes no matter how they try to hide it, or come up with those natural sugar substitutes. I can taste it. I wish I didnt .

 

[scarf-ace]

I vape my NETs mostly in dual coil cartomizers. They last a few days if you are vaping them exclusively, or up to a week if you rotate them around with other juices.

 

[acleme1]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Looks like in order to enjoy my favorite ejuices, I'm going to have to live with lots of cleaning, changing, soaking, etc. I was just hoping there was a better way. I was thinking about trying to cut my juice with something to make it a little thinner. I tried cutting it with 100% VG to make my juice last a little longer, but that tasted like crap. If there are more suggestions out there, please keep them coming. Thanks.

 

[anavidfan]

A lot of people cut their juice with a bit of distilled water, just a couple drops, But I would cut it with equal parts of pg/vg. Adding just vg will make it more unfriendly to your carto or other device as VG is thick. YOu might order your juice a bit more on the PG ratio than vg.

 

[luceblueboy]

There's a few solutions here:

1) Stop using your favorite liquids in order to utilize your setup
2) Continue to do the same thing but have to constantly clean them
3) find another NET vendor that doesn't clog/ruin anything. I suggest Ahlusion and Heather's Heavenly Vapes

I personally use a smartvapes dripping atomizer with a drip shield. I can fill it a couple mls with any mess. All I have to do to clean the atomizer is blow out and soak the liquid in warm water (this was to clean them from Want2Vape tobaccos, the hardest NETS on attys/cartos).

 

[TheVap3Junkie]

Lots of rebuilding vivi nova heads maybe. I dont know i would move to other juices myself but if those juices work rebuilds might be the best option.

 

[anavidfan]

I dont remember if I mentioned this, but a few minutes in a soak of efferdent will clean your dirtiest of cotton wicks and coils , such as in the vivi nova or any other wick type rebuilds. I use enough hot water to cover the atty head and drop in a quarter of a tablet let is fizzle the longer the better and take out, rinse and if its still dirty as in a cotton wick, I put it back in for a while longer, over night if possible, if its really a mess of crusted gunk. It leaves no residue and if its safe for dentures than its safe for vape use.

I have been able to clean and reuse my cotton vivi nova wicks and coils now 3 times.

 

[Racehorse]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Looks like in order to enjoy my favorite ejuices, I'm going to have to live with lots of cleaning, changing, soaking, etc. I was just hoping there was a better way. I was thinking about trying to cut my juice with something to make it a little thinner. I tried cutting it with 100% VG to make my juice last a little longer, but that tasted like crap. If there are more suggestions out there, please keep them coming. Thanks.

I know nothing about NETs, but have you tried filtering it? You could ask some of the DIY folks about that. For me, I would just rig a premium coffee filter and put into a very small strainer, let it filter thru the night til it all dropped down. Seems like this would take all the sediment out.

There is actually quite a lot of sediment in some juices, I think I remember reading that JC juice had this problem for a while.


You might also discuss with {angela?} at TPR, seems like the maker of the juice might be able to fiddle with something for you in particular and the kind of equip you use.

 

[Randy C]

I think I would stay with bridgeless 306's as much as possible and just be prepared to dump them in a glass of vodka to clean and then set out to dry for the next day and just keep enough in rotation to keep you going. It is a pain in the .... but unless you really enjoy making coils it might be the easiest.

I too love the taste of NET's, and got frustrated with finding a proper delivery system. My vaping progression has also lead me to bridgeless 306's. I de-wick upon arrival, throw it on my Reo Grand, and vape away! I also clean in vodka, but every other day. Cleaning is not a chore and they last a long time.

 

[acleme1]

Bridgeless 306's huh? It sounds like 306's are at least worth a try. Could you guys give me a link or two to some really good 306 atty's? Thanks again for the help.