Extreme teeth sensitivity & pain

[Neyzen]

I know there have been many threads on this, and I read each of them..
but there is no satisfying answer yet.

I vaped for two weeks without any problem.
I was so happy!
I started smoking since I was 14, and vaping was the only thing that helped me from this cursed habit!

Than it started.. There was a pain in all of my teeth, especially the ones at the bottom of frontside of my mouth.
Not exactly a pain, but a sensitivity, something like I have eaten lemons for hours!

At first I thought it was the sweet juice I was vaping.. but no, other juices have the same effect.
The pain subdues after I stop vaping for a few hours. But starts again as soon as I started vaping.

I tried different flavors, different e-juice brands, DIY products.
I tried 70% PG, VG only, 0 mg nicotine, flavorless nbase and even pure glycerin.
I tried RDA, cartomizers, clearomizers, bcc systems.
I tried drinking tons of water, washing my mouth after each puff, vaping with some water in my mouth.
I tried vaping still smoking in order to see if it was because of quitting..
I tried different toothpastes, different mouthwashes..

No way.. Each time I started vaping, the pain was there!


OK my teeth are not in a good shape, I neglected them for a long time. But nothing has ever created such a sensitivity!
And I'm not the only one.. People who complained about these sensitivities never turned back to post any positive feedback. Apparently they all gave up and stopped vaping.


It seems these tooth problems directly stems from vaping glycerin. But it is the most common ingredient in toothpastes!
What an irony!!!
Actually I have only a single theory left. Maybe the vapor form of glycerin sucks the moisture not only from the saliva, but also directly from the dentin layer of the tooth. But people can feel this only if the enamel is worn enough.


Please, I need ideas.. or better, personal experience...

 

[Thunderball]

No help, here. I have a sister in law that successfully left the cigs for vapor and then after a month, a bad pain in her teeth started. I DIY for her so I thought I could figure it out. No luck. She smokes now. In her words, "not worth the pain keeping me up at night". We went from high PG to High VG and back to 50/50.

Sad story, cause she really wanted to keep vaping with the rest of us.

I would like to know the answer also.

 

[Lurch]

I have read that tooth and gum problems are somewhat common after you quit smoking. For me, it was bleeding gums. I researched and found that blood flow through the gums increases once you quit smoking. My problem lasted for a few days, and topped.

I hope you find a resolution....

 

[Neyzen]

I have read that tooth and gum problems are somewhat common after you quit smoking. For me, it was bleeding gums. I researched and found that blood flow through the gums increases once you quit smoking. My problem lasted for a few days, and topped.

I hope you find a resolution....

Thank you very much for the reply.
I agree about the gum problems but I don't think the teeth pain itself is result of quitting.
Because it persist even if I vape while still smoking, and goes away a few hours after I stop vaping.

I hope I can find a solution..
Perhaps it is something about pH of the mouth.
I will make some pH tests, I've ordered some test strips

 

[niczgreat]

If you have an allergy it will take days to go away.

I had an allergy develop after 2 years. My fillings became irritated and hurt. Sores on my mouth etc..

I switched to 100% Organic VG along with 100% organic flavorings and my allergy went away within days.
Just switching to VG didn't work, I had to go to the organic flavoring.

Try Virgin Vapers for premade juice.

For DIY
Nature's flavors is the place to go for the flavoring.


By the way
Try rubbing pure Tea Tree Oil on your teeth, it will numb and then kill any infections.

 

[FourWinds]

Hi,

It is most important that you go to see a dentist just as soon as you can. I mean AS SOON AS YOU CAN sir.

It was actually a periodontist that got me in to vaping. I have/had gum issues, and that's what a periodontist is interested in. Smoking will damage your gums, but it will also hide the damage because the heat and chemical brew hides any bleeding or pain. This is why when you stop smoking all the hidden damage becomes apparent!

Go and see a dentist as soon as you can. It simply could be that now you have stopped smoking, damage that has been done is now becoming apparent. Don't panic friend; there are lots of ways to improve your teeth and gum health, such as topical application of vitamin C powder to promote gum re-growth. Just visit a dentist as a first step.

PM me if you feel like it; I've been there.

 

[Anjaffm]

I do not know how old you are, but sensitive teeth (where gums have receded, leaving a sensitive part of the tooth free and open) are quite common in middle aged folks. I have had several such teeth filled, to cover the open areas. And that was when I still smoked.

Now, smoking cessation does play havoc with your gums - and I agree with every word that FourWinds said, above.

Smoking cessation may be the cause of bleeding gums. When you smoke, blood circulation is bad. (My gums were grey when I smoked). When you stop smoking, you stop inhaling carbon monoxide, and blood circulation improves greatly. (My gums are now pink).
Thus, already damaged gums will start to bleed. Because now, they have enough blood in them (which is a good thing) so that they can bleed (which is not a good thing). The only thing to do is to see a dentist as soon as possible and to have the gums treated.

I had the problem with bleeding gums when I made the transition to vaping. And a lot of people I know of, they had the same problem.
I went to the dentist and had my gums treated - and the problem disappeared. Same for the others.

It is important to know that the problem already existed. Smoking cessation just caused it to come out.
And taking up smoking again, that is not the right way. The gums will just continue to deteriorate, until they cause problems even when you are smoking. (I had to have quite several such teeth filled, while a smoker, see above).

Yes, do see a dentist, please, as soon as you can.

/edit:
Now this is a theory of mine (unproven, just a theory), about the suddenly sensitive teeth:
Usually, teeth get sensitive when the gums recede, leaving a part of tooth in the open, unprotected by enamel, and unprotected by the (receded) gums. see here
Now, once already damaged gums get good blood circulation, what is to stop them from getting inflamed - and receding, thus exposing the sensitive part of the tooth? And causing the problem with sensitive teeth?
The only thing that can stop this is a visit to the dentist, to have the gums taken care of. And / or to get fillings in the exposed sensitive part of the teeth.

 

[Panorama911]

Periodontal disease will cause the gums to swell with use of tobacco, bleeding also. When you quit, the gums recede exposing the sensitive area of the root of the tooth thus pain will occur. Since you have quit the gums are no longer as swollen and now you have pain. You will also see more sensitivity after brushing. Reason is the plaque is removed exposing more of the gum line, in a word, plaque build up, however detrimental, actually serves as a barrier to the sensitive root along the gum line, removal is no different than an open wound.

There are products out that desensitize the tooth, and not the toothpaste type, actually liquids placed on the tooth to help block up the tooth's porous structure and giving some protection. A product named Den Temp, a paste, can be placed along the gum line can also protect from pain causing foods and beverages, etc. Used as a temporary filling but can be used to cover the areas of the teeth along the gums.

But the best thing is to see a Dentist and see if any remedy can be available.

 

[Anjaffm]

@Panorama911:
Thank you for setting my "theory" straight. Yes, it makes much more sense your way

 

[Panorama911]

@Panorama911:
Thank you for setting my "theory" straight. Yes, it makes much more sense your way

You are welcome even though no need to thank me....
I just hope the OP is not using Google Translate....OP is from Turkey.....if so, the OP may be really confused from either of our replies!

 

[Kanthal]

uhh oh. I hope you do not have to go through what I went through a couple weeks ago. My bottom gums were so swollen that I had to go to the emergency room. I'm not 100% sure it had to do with vaping, but after 6 days of taking Amoxicillin the problem went away.

Here's my thread about it. Hope you feel better soon. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/566542-vaping-dental-issues.html

 

[Anjaffm]

You are welcome even though no need to thank me....
I just hope the OP is not using Google Translate....OP is from Turkey.....if so, the OP may be really confused from either of our replies!

Especially by my reply, as I am not a native speaker either

uhh oh. I hope you do not have to go through what I went through a couple weeks ago. My bottom gums were so swollen that I had to go to the emergency room. I'm not 100% sure it had to do with vaping, but after 6 days of taking Amoxicillin the problem went away.

Here's my thread about it. Hope you feel better soon. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/566542-vaping-dental-issues.html

Oh goodness, I am sorry to see that! I hope you are feeling better now!
All I ever got from smoking cessation was bleeding gums. Lucky me!

 

[skoony]

if anything its because you quit cigarettes.not because you started vaping.
all those chemicals your gums crave are now gone.
regards mike

 

[Panorama911]

Anja...Your reply was just fine! Understood every word, your grasp of English is better than many who live here!

 

[niczgreat]

After $300.00 in getting my fillings redone that didn't help.

It all went away when I went organic.
I wasted over $200.00 seeing a dentist, allergies will cause irritation in fillings and gums.

Try 100% organic for 3 days. It will take around two days to get the other crap out of your system and if it doesn't see improvement, go the next step.

This is assuming that it isn't more severe then you've indicated.

 

[niczgreat]

This product is amazing. I had a toothache and couldn't find clove oil. So in my desperation I tried Tea Tree Oil. This Brand http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005V2UI5Y/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It immediately numbed the pain and then when I woke up the next morning no toothache.

I brush with it once a week and it's great for halitosis, etc..

 

[Panorama911]

With periodontal disease, if this is the case, there is really no remedy if it has reached a point of no return. Other than an extraction there is no method to completely solve the issue. As long as the tooth root is exposed, pain will occur. That said, in the meanwhile a mouth guard such as a athlete wears or for those who grind their teeth at night could be used to protect the sensitive roots/gum line, only issue here is most guards are upper and the OP is complaining of the lowers. It may be too bulky to fit the lowers but with a good razor knife it can be modified to at the very least be used to vape.

Or if that does not work, chew gum and spread the gum around the outer lower gum line just to act as a barrier.......but I never suggested this

 

[Neyzen]

I thank everyone for their kind answers.
I'm not using google translate, so you do not need to worry about the language you use.
I can understand everything perfectly.

However I believe I was misunderstood by some friends.
As I said, I turned back to smoking for a few weeks since I couldn't stand the sensitivity.. After two weeks, my teeth started to ache again, after just a few hours of vaping.
So I'm 100% sure that these aches have nothing to do with analog withdrawal symptoms.

In every thread about teeth pains, most people answer that these sensitivities are because withdrawal symptoms..
I agree that some people have sore gums after quitting analogs.
But I tested again and again and my aches result from the vapor, most probably glycerin vapor. It gets less severe just a few hours after I stop vaping and completely vanish in a day or two, regardless of smoking.

 

[skoony]

first if your symptoms persist see a dentist.in the mean time get some tooth paste made for sensitive gums and teeth.gargle frequently.use something strong.it might be painful but it actually helps aclimate your teeth and gums to the pain and helps them heal faster.
regards
mike

 

[Neyzen]

first if your symptoms persist see a dentist.in the mean time get some tooth paste made for sensitive gums and teeth.gargle frequently.use something strong.it might be painful but it actually helps aclimate your teeth and gums to the pain and helps them heal faster.
regards
mike

I'll try everything you suggested... I desperately hope e-cigs work for me.
Thank you very much.