Fact File From Australian Broadcasting Corporation.....not so sure.

[Mossy]

abc.
net.au/news/2014-08-03/do-e-cigarettes-help-people-quit-smoking/5636298

This appeared yesterday, there are lots of links.......some dodgy, some ok. I'm working my way around to commenting........I hope everybody else will try to comment. I put spaces to break the link because I'm not sure its good or bad.

 

[Mossy]

I did try and break the link but seems to keep coming back...............mods please.

 

[Kent C]

http: //www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-03/do-e-cigarettes-help-people-quit-smoking/5636298

one space between the colon and the slashes should do it....

 

[supertrunker]

So even if we take the most pessimistic view and people use both combustible and e-cigs at once, so what?

They smoke fewer 'real' ones and that is harm reduction, since there is little doubt e-cigs are safer. It's a sad state of affairs, when medical doctors regard quitting tobacco as the only worthwhile achievement.

T

 

[Mossy]

Tried the one space Kent.........still there grrrrr

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

WA's director of public health says the research shows people who use e-cigarettes continue smoking conventional cigarettes.

Well, stop banning e-cigs in WA and I bet that "research" will show something different. LOL! Seriously?

 

[DrMA]

How do you say slurry gusher down under?

Somebody please send these clowns a copy of the recent Hajek review and the older Farsalinos and Polosa review, both of which find plenty of evidence to draw firm and defensible conclusions.

 

[Mossy]

I'm getting there DrMa.........I already posted a link to this Electronic cigarettes: review of use, content, safety, effects on smokers and potential for harm and benefit - Hajek - 2014 - Addiction - Wiley Online Library. I will pepper them over the next few days with other juicy bits of stuff

 

[Mossy]

How do you say slurry gusher down under?

Australians are pretty good at swearing...............Sluury Gusher.............................the translation would not get past go on this site

 

[sonicdsl]

Tried the one space Kent.........still there grrrrr

Fixed it for you

 

[Dayglow]

I agree that the notion of harm reduction seems to be lost in this argument. I guess harm reduction is only acceptable for illegal drugs RE: safe needle exchange programs, methadone, etc. Even if people cut back or use a less detrimental alternative that is still a positive improvement.

 

[Derek_66]

Sadly, our ABC lost the capacity for balanced reporting and doing some basic research some time ago. "Fact Check"... my @rse

 

[Dayglow]

It's easier to get the agenda spin you want to be big news front page and issue a two sentence redaction on page 19 three weeks later than accept that your viewpoint may be incorrect or biased. Most news these days isn't about providing accurate info about events, it's about generating views and interest through fluff and shock.