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Steve K

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Yes I am going into it blindly. I never pretended to be an expert at it that's why I have all these questions. I have bought pre made but in my small town it's either gas station stuff or the one over priced vape shop. I was spending just as much a day as if I was still smoking. I am playing around with mixes and trying to figure it out. I have bought some stuff I didn't research but have never used it to vape. I was getting flavoring for the wife's baking and figure I would post on here to see if it was good. I have not been vaping long so their is a lot for me to learn

When I would buy it when I started,I would get it at a vape shop or order online and there were choices on how much Pg/Vg ratio you wanted for these reasons


100% PG: Very strong throat hit, with clean flavors and not much vapor production.
80/20 (PG/VG): Still very little vapor production, and a moderately strong throat hit.
70/30 (PG/VG): A little more vapor, a little less throat hit.
60/40 (PG/VG): Decent vapor with a noticeable, but not to overwhelming throat hit.
50/50 (PG/VG): An even mix, with quality vapor clouds and a soft throat hit.
40/60 (PG/VG): Noticeably larger vapor clouds and a reduce throat hit.
30/70 (PG/VG): Good vapor production and a minimal throat hit.
20/80 (PG/VG): Excellent vapor production and a very small throat hit.
100% VG: Very little throat hit, with noticeably sweet flavor undertones and massive vapor production.
 
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Crunktanium

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I would get it at a vape shop or order online and there were choices on how much Pg/Vg ratio you wanted for these reasons

Which is an even better reason to DIY since you can test various ratios yourself. Most people don't even need to be concerned with VG/PG ratios and should stick with VG/PG 60/40 or 40/60. Some people have intolerances or other issues and they may need full VG. While others fall into the belief that 100% VG is better since many shops now push 100% VG juice as organic and more healthy. They even claim no PG while the flavors they use often do have PG.

What PG brings to the table is flavor so if you want more flavor go higher on the PG. If you want a sweeter and richer vape go higher on the VG. when using higher VG however you will need more flavor to compensate for the lack of PG as a flavor carrier. VG juice is also more expensive to make (flavoring is the highest cost) though it provides more vapor for cloud chasers. But to much of anything can be a bad thing which is why premium juice companies like Five Pawns and such typically use either 40/60 or 50/50 ratio.
 

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Ecigexpress says Flavor Art is Gluten Free but when you go to the United Kingdom Flavor Art site it does not say anything about beng Gluten Free. As a Celiac this is not a matter to take lightly. I've said it before Organic is not Gluten Free. Flavoring usually has Gluten unless they have taken the time to find out what Gluten really is and post it I can not afford for bad info to be passed around about what is and is not Gluten Free. That's why most suppliers just say no because it takes a lot of research to figure out what is. At best a site should say they know this or that flavor is Gluten free or is gluten free when labeled as such but with over 200 flavors I know they can not all be Gluten Free. For me proper labeling is important but the FDA doesn't even required the pharmacutical industry to label their medication so if regulations go through some day I don't expect them to label ejuice or flavoring.Remember most of the things we read on the internet is garbage info. Anyone can say anything and unles you know better you can not believe it.
 

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Thanks for finding that for me AzPlumber. I'll add them to my list of companies to buy from. I do not think vendors intentionally add gluten to anything it is more likely that there is cross contamination due to the environment or a change in a products makeup. By the way the FDA allows the pharmaceutical companies to get away with not listing Gluten as one of their ingredients so someone like me has to call each separate company all the time to find out if the product is gluten free because big pharma changes the filler material in the drugs all the time and gluten is used as a binder. Walgreens and Costco use to call for me but now none of them check before refilling a script.
 
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