Fairly important positive development for a change

[sofarsogood]

E-cigarettes for millions on the NHS

"An electronic cigarette product has been licensed by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency, meaning it can be prescribed by GPs."

A bit more legitimacy for vaping.

Apparently the British health service will be able to hand out ecigs to smokers trying to quit for FREE and supply eliquid over time also for free. So vaping isn't just cheap, it is free!
First e-cigarettes to be prescribed on the NHS in the New Year

May be it will also be available to people trying to quit their cloud chasing habit.

 

[inspects]

Figures, BT has their hand in the pot.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

But still, it is recognition for the benefits and the lack of dangers. I read awhile back that British Police were aloud to vape on the job so long as it was not disruptive to their duties.

 

[Heybilox]

It will be interesting to see how all this plays out with the government and BAT involvement.
I feel a sense of cautious optimism at the moment.

 

[mountaingal]

You Brits are so smart! The US of A is now trying to make it harder for us to vape by going back to 2007 gear. They are not saying it is bad, they are upset because of the decrease in revenue from all us vapers not buy cigs anymore. Maybe I'll go live in jolly ol' England if they regulate vaping to 2007 cig-a-likes!

 

[sofarsogood]

Figures, BT has their hand in the pot.

The tobacco companies know that vaping has the potential to end the use of tobacco in the world. It's governments and tax supported intitutions who are unable to accept that. I don't think it matters who developed the product. What matters is Britian has approved vaping as a medical treatment. There are probably other products that would work better but they aren't approved because the manufacturers can't afford the approval process.

 

[skoony]

It is good news but, it's also bad news. Here in the US the CDC seems to be
gearing up for THR approach to e-cigs as an afterthought. Much as one would hedge
their bets. If the forthcoming Deeming Regs are as harsh as they seem to
be, THR would be the backup plan if congress or the courts decide to step in.
If the Deeming regs are allowed to stand as they are no problem. If the Deeming Regs
do get challenged successfully, Hello Pharmaceutical E-cigs.
You see folks, their not going to ban them.

Regards
Mike

 

[sofarsogood]

It is good news but, it's also bad news. Here in the US the CDC seems to be
gearing up for THR approach to e-cigs as an afterthought. Much as one would hedge
their bets. If the forthcoming Deeming Regs are as harsh as they seem to
be, THR would be the backup plan if congress or the courts decide to step in.
If the Deeming regs are allowed to stand as they are no problem. If the Deeming Regs
do get challenged successfully, Hello Pharmaceutical E-cigs.
You see folks, their not going to ban them.

Regards
Mike

This sounds a lot like medical marijuana which is available in michigan and, as far as I can tell, is defacto legalization. So smokers pay a bribe to a doctor and get permission to vape? That is turning a home remedy into a high powered pharmaceutical and those companies have apparently declined to develop products so far. I read somewhere that something like 80% of smokers have at least tried an ecig. That demonstrates a high amount of interest. A bit of encouragement and support would convert many of them. The US tobacco control crowd probably has better numbers than we do. The stakes are very very high for them, and for everybody. Nobody can sneaze at $100 billion.

 

[pennysmalls]

I don't think the results the NHS will be seeing from this will be positive. Smoking rates will most likely go back up. If the government over there had paid attention the NHS would be contracting with the makers of better devices and assisting the makers of those devices in getting approval. What I see happening is vape shops closing down, current vapers either going to the black market or taking up smoking again, some vapers quitting both all together and a rush from smokers who know nothing about vaping to get these prescriptions then failing at quitting. This whole scenario is going to tank.

 

[sofarsogood]

I don't think the results the NHS will be seeing from this will be positive. Smoking rates will most likely go back up. If the government over there had paid attention the NHS would be contracting with the makers of better devices and assisting the makers of those devices in getting approval. What I see happening is vape shops closing down, current vapers either going to the black market or taking up smoking again, some vapers quitting both all together and a rush from smokers who know nothing about vaping to get these prescriptions then failing at quitting. This whole scenario is going to tank.

It's a done deal so time will tell. If the approved devices are wimpy may be people will upgrade quickly. My first vape pen lasted 4 days. Before this Docs could offer patches and gum and some other scary drug that nobody should take. Is the British government going to shut down the vape shops? I haven't heard that's coming. It's apparently law in Ontario Canada and 300 vapers gathered to protest. In a month or two we'll know what the next phase of the vape battle in the US might be. I don't think most vapers will get politically interested until the wolves are at the door.

 

[pennysmalls]

sofar - Re vape shops closing. I was under that impression but you have me wondering if I'm remembering correctly.

 

[sofarsogood]

sofar - Re vape shops closing. I was under that impression but you have me wondering if I'm remembering correctly.

I read a high percentage of ecig news that google news finds. Two issues that seem to come up the most are vape shops and e liquid. I think neighbors are uneasy about speciality vape shops because they can be hangouts and I think governments are insanely jealous of the gargantuan markups on pre mixed eliquids and want a peice of the action. I have never seen discussion or even acknowledgement of DIY. I've seen nothing about obtaining devices from offshore distributors.

 

[Xcighippy]

You Brits are so smart! The US of A is now trying to make it harder for us to vape by going back to 2007 gear. They are not saying it is bad, they are upset because of the decrease in revenue from all us vapers not buy cigs anymore. Maybe I'll go live in jolly ol' England if they regulate vaping to 2007 cig-a-likes!

By reading the comments after the article, it seems there are a lot of Brits that aren't so smart.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

It is good news but, it's also bad news. Here in the US the CDC seems to be
gearing up for THR approach to e-cigs as an afterthought. Much as one would hedge
their bets. If the forthcoming Deeming Regs are as harsh as they seem to
be, THR would be the backup plan if congress or the courts decide to step in.
If the Deeming regs are allowed to stand as they are no problem. If the Deeming Regs
do get challenged successfully, Hello Pharmaceutical E-cigs.
You see folks, their not going to ban them.

Regards
Mike

We may end up with a new industry...Pharmabacco.

 

[nicnik]

You Brits are so smart! The US of A is now trying to make it harder for us to vape by going back to 2007 gear. They are not saying it is bad, they are upset because of the decrease in revenue from all us vapers not buy cigs anymore. Maybe I'll go live in jolly ol' England if they regulate vaping to 2007 cig-a-likes!

I'm a little confused. Is Voke an inhaler, and e-Voke an e-cigarette? I'd like to try the e-Voke to get a better idea of how much good can come of this. I wonder if it's any better than other BT cig-a-likes.

 

[Mazinny]

Interesting.

BAT already has an e-cig on the market called Vype. E-Cigarettes | E-Liquids | E Cigs | Vype UK

They also have a product called " Voke " British American Tobacco Introduces the Voke Nicotine Inhaler | E-Cigarette Reviews and Rankings which is a nicotine inhaler approved last year : Is this the world's first medically-approved 'cigarette'?

Curious as to what the e-Voke is and how it's different from Voke and Vype. Perhaps it delivers a precise dose of nicotine as Voke claims to do, but produces vapor as well which Voke doesn't !? There has to be a reason they didn't try, or couldn't get, approval for their Vype product.

 

[Fog n Vape]

Interesting times for sure. Keep us across the water informed as this moves forward , k