Family members want a vaporizer, too - what would you do? [re: safety thoughts]

[Javamon]

There are already 2 of us in the household vaping now. Me, and my 19 year old daughter. I'm vaping for pleasure - zero nic.
My daughter is as well, but the plan there is for her to use it to eliminate the occasional smoking she does.

My wife is seeing how much I'm enjoying it, and she now wants one. She also thinks one of our college age boys would want one.

What would you do? Would you view it *safe enough* to give to other loved ones - that aren't using it for smoking elimination - or would you be concerned?

 

[beckdg]

I would voice my concerns gently. Once. Then I'd support their decisions so I know they'd be open to the help they'll require from me.

Sent from my device.

 

[440BB]

As you chose to vape just for pleasure, not to quit smoking, you model that behavior to your family. It would seem pretty hypocritical to tell them it's OK for you yet not for them.

No matter how much less harmful vaping is than smoking, it certainly isn't as healthy as fresh air. Looks to me like your choice opened pandora's box.

 

[PaulBHC]

If it is zero nic, then it would be a habit, not an addiction. I would think that after a while, the novelty will wear off and the devices will be set aside.

 

[Norrin]

Yes I think it's safe enough, BUT I would still try to dissuade them from using it because it isn't 100% safe. If they started after you have pointed this out I wouldn't be overly concerned as as far as we know there are no real issues with vaping. Obviously we could find out that there is something which has a long term health effect but I can't see this happening.

 

[Redruth]

If I feel it's 'safe enough' for me then yes I'd think it safe enough for family members who were trying to stop smoking. Really not sure about folks who have never smoked though.

There again if that's what you are doing - you can't really say 'Do as I say, not as I do.'

Think I would share my concerns, briefly and let them reach their own decisions.

Happy vaping.

 

[DavidOck]

If they smoke, it's definitely less harmful.

If they don't, explain that there are, of course, no long term studies.

If they're all adult children, there's not much you can do to stop them. But if they've not expressed an interest, I wouldn't just set them up with gear.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I have a low nic bottle that I use when I am in front of the TV. In my writings for CASAA, I conclude that when my wife eats a calorie-laden piece of apple pie, I vape it.

Trying flavors is kind of a hobby in itself. I would not give to kids and others. Maybe a weekly family get together to try each others flavors.

Hope helps.

 

[WattWick]

This is really a hot potato that is probably best handled within the family.

I'm just a bit puzzled and would question why your wife "thinks one of our college age boys would want one".

You may not like this, but here's my take on it: I vape as an alternative to smoking. That's the fight I'm willing to fight. If there is a risk attached to vaping, it's a risk I'm willing to take because I consider smoking riskier.

I just hope this doesn't turn out as another thread that serves mostly as ammunition against us; where vapers are 'tricked' into advocating vaping for kids. Some times contrarianism is just another way of painting oneself into a corner.

 

[Javamon]

Thank you all for the feedback. It's really not meant to be a trick question, and I could have received the same feedback I was looking for if I just asked if you think it is safe enough for a non smoker to zero nic vape for pleasure, without a reference to children.

Yes, the children mentioned are all adults. The only non adult here is their father - me.
Seriously, I would never consider any of this for a minor. At least not until there was real science out there on the subject.

 

[DaveOno]

I would not push vaping onto a non-smoker. I vape so I don't smoke.

This is a fascinating topic, non-smokers starting to vape.

To your situation, as you welcomed their support in your decisions, support them in theirs...


(In jest, I can hear the family arguments... Who took the last of my RY4? No, the provari is mine, just cause it was sitting there does NOT mean you can take it. I'm cleaning my tanks, go clean your own. You ordered from Alice's and you didn't ask me? ...)

 

[PapaSloth]

All harm is relative. The harm of vaping compared to the harm of smoking seems like a win to me. On the other hand, the harm of vaping compared to the harm of nothing at all seems like an unnecessary risk. Would you want your children sky diving on a regular basis? That's a pretty safe sport, for the most part, if you're reasonably careful. They probably won't die from it, and it's a lot of fun. So, do you want to buy them jump tickets to the nearest sports parachute center?

 

[WattWick]

Thank you all for the feedback. It's really not meant to be a trick question, and I could have received the same feedback I was looking for if I just asked if you think it is safe enough for a non smoker to zero nic vape for pleasure, without a reference to children.

Yes, the children mentioned are all adults. The only non adult here is their father - me.
Seriously, I would never consider any of this for a minor. At least not until there was real science out there on the subject.

Have to admit my post was on the grumpy side and could easily be read as even grumpier than intended. While I personally have nothing against non-smokers vaping if they want - it's hard to deny that you guys can be 'used against us'. Wish it wasn't so. Anyway, that's no fault of yours or mine. It's just a minefield I find very hard to safely navigate.

I didn't suspect you of tricking anyone. It's just that threads on these touchy matters tend to bring out the inner contrarian in some. Suddenly it's no longer about vaping, but politics as a whole, etc and so forth. Which again tend to paint us vapers in a poor light when some start advocating childrens right to vape, etc. It's just not an image I think any of us is served with.

 

[Norrin]

Have to admit my post was on the grumpy side and could easily be read as even grumpier than intended. While I personally have nothing against non-smokers vaping if they want - it's hard to deny that you guys can be 'used against us'. Wish it wasn't so. Anyway, that's no fault of yours or mine. It's just a minefield I find very hard to safely navigate.

I didn't suspect you of tricking anyone. It's just that threads on these touchy matters tend to bring out the inner contrarian in some. Suddenly it's no longer about vaping, but politics as a whole, etc and so forth. Which again tend to paint us vapers in a poor light when some start advocating childrens right to vape, etc. It's just not an image I think any of us is served with.

I'm not going to get into the pros and cons of minors vaping because I think we all understand them which ever side we fall on, but to avoid the discusion because you think that they can use this against us isn't good either because although vapers are split on this it's much better to voice opinions so that normal people can see that we do think about these things seriously and don't just go with the flow. The (read ALL) governments have been very slow to react to vaping with any serious legislation about sales, they are more interested with stopping it.

 

[sketchness]

I bought a vaporizer for my minor son to kick the smoking habit. People can say whatever they want. But I would rather have him vape than smoke. Not sure where he was getting them and doesn't really matter. I am not finding cigarette butts on the side of my house anymore. And I have an older daughter who vapes. She was not a smoker, she does it because she likes the taste. She mainly vapes 0 nic. I had no idea she was vaping until I bought my first setup and she laughed at it compared to her spinner\nautilus combo.

I agree with everyone this is an individual decision. Many will disagree with me and that doesn't make them wrong nor me right. It was simply the decision I made.

We have a lot of fun building coils and making juice.

 

[four2109]

Why is this up to you? Do they need your permission?

 

[BlueCanary]

I would maybe let them try yours first, with the 0 nic, to see if they like the sensation. I let my non-smoking friend who was curious try my vape when I first started, and she very much did not like the sensation of the vapor in her mouth even though she did not inhale it into her lungs…it was too harsh and too much for a non-smoker. It may be that will satisfy their curiosity and be the end of it.

If they want to vape 0 nic just for the taste, more power to them. If they were my family members who were non-smokers and were interested in starting to vape nicotine…I would advise against it. Because I've been addicted to nicotine since my teen years, and I know how bad the withdrawal sucks, and I would never encourage anyone to pick up a nicotine habit. Ultimately, if they are adults they will do what they want though, so if they are bound and determined to vape better to show them good equipment and safe ways to do it than to have them run off uninformed and buy crappy gear that might be unsafe.