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Farewell Friends, I've kicked the e-cigs.

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Vaporista

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Not to cause alarm or anything but I experienced some uncomfortable side effect which was bothering me a while and which funnily enough was documented in another thread by others ( Thread was shortness of breath in the health forums) and I put down my e-cig a week ago- not because of that thread, but because the issues raised had been niggling at me for some week or two prior. In short, my lungs felt trapped for lack of a better description.
I also felt at times, I wasn't getting enough oxygen. I never had asthma or COPD and I smoked heavily (20-25 analogs daily) prior to e-smoking for 26 years. I do have sleep apnoea and I once used CPAP for several years.

Firstly, giving up the e-cig, even at high mg. (in my case 26mg down from 36) is pretty simple compared to the herculean task of quitting cigarettes.
I was amazed how easy it was just to put the things down and walk away. Okay, I was in a bad mood all week, but that passes. Chalk that up to nicotine withdrawal. (This was not the MAOI tobacco alkaloid withdrawal by the way, since I stopped using snus and snuff many weeks ago. This was just a nicotine withdrawal alleviated from time to time with a nicotine spray. I'll still have 1mg to 2mg or so twice a day.)

My SO smokes tobacco and I cannot stand the smell and I have absolutely no urging to pick up a tobacco cigarette, although sometimes I find my fingers unconsciously weaving downwards, or homing in on other people's cigarette packs around the house. I find that amusing after I've stopped myself. Old habits. New learning. Nope, I don't even miss the e-cig but I do admit that when I get a tobacco craving, and I do get them but nothing that sends me out of my mind insane; it will be for the e-cig and only because it gave a better throat hit than cigarettes themselves.

Secondly, since putting down the e-cig, I've felt even better as the days pass (but I do get the occasional bad day) Feeling better as in lungs feel like they are getting a proper break. The clearing of my lungs has started again. (It took a while to get started anyways once I started vaping, but after a month or so stuff started coming up) For a couple of weeks, when the breathlesness started, as mild as it was, I couldn't clear my lungs at all for some reason, but since I stopped vaping and got mucosal thinners and use steam the lungs are slowly starting to clear the brown tar rubbish of years past. There's only one problem. I noticed blood on a few occasions. And nearly a week after quitting vaping. But the ease of breathing has returned so that could just be inflammation. I'll let the Lung specialists make that determination. I don't feel it's anything serious at this point.

Thirdly, I'll be not posting so much anymore as the e-cigs are no longer part of my life. I want to thank those of you who were so generous and who traded crucial info with me on all things e-cig. You know who you are. These are great forums and the e-cig is a great invention. I have no idea how I would have stopped without it and I tried everything.
So yes the e-cig has helped me, but comes a time when I see there is more to life than worrying about nicotine and I no longer wish to be part of a big experiment with unknown outcomes. It took an adverse reaction for me to see that.

I want to see my kids go through school and have kids of their own.
I want to complete an ironman triathon without being hooked to an iron lung.
I want to be able to do all these things and more without worrying about the possibility of adverse health effects and the possible knocking of years off my life with the continued use of e-cigs and e-liquids.
Thats why I stopped smoking tobacco.
Maybe the damage is already done from that.
Who knows?
e-cigs and e-liquids might be less harmful than tobacco
But that's not good enough for me.

And in closing, I want to encourage the Chinese Manufacturers to be forthcoming and active in their disclosures. Nobody really trusts anything Chinese made these days, and the disinterest, even disdain shown by the Chinese over the past year in supporting studies of any form or even addressing customer health concerns is worrying. It's all about money. Just like the FDA, Big Tobacco, and Big Pharma. Nobody cares about health.
God forbid there be a non nicotine dependent healthy ex-smoker out there.:D
 
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Doug_Dread

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Congrats and I agree with you, the objective has to remain quitting smoking and not starting/perpetuating a new possibly, even probably, unhealthy habit which I am convinced vaping is. I was one of the posters about shortness of breath, particularly with RY4, but have mostly recovered after swithching flavours. Not to mention, vaping is expensive.

I've achieved part 1 and cigarettes are behind me now, something I never dreamed would ever happen, so a massive up to vaping. My vaping has reduced and there are times I just don't feel like it, even get bored of it and leave it for hours, but I guess I'm not quite finished with it yet.

Oh, btw, I assume you will honour your betting obligations before you leave and send me the 2 cases of beer? I'll make it easier for you, you can make it 2 cases of Coke. :)
 

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To thumbs way up, this is great news, there is nothing more pleasing then been able to beat an addiction, once you have beaten a nicotine addiction you start to realize just how capable you are at doing just about anything you put your mind too, now that door is closed you begin to see other areas in your life you can start improving on... Have a blast and best of luck...:)
 

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I am on my second week on zero nicotine and hardly use my PV. I use it maybe four or five times a day to pacify me and I will have kicked that habit soon. I wont say its been an easy two weeks suffering with withdrawal symptoms (some days / hours better / worse than others) but I have just been totally focused that I will never have a analogue again (even though my wife smokes analogues which makes it a lot harder), what really helps with the PV is the fact that you can stagger your reduction in intake, first deal with the MAOI’s then the Nicotine by dropping your level at your own pace.

For me, this has been a one stop get out of jail free. It’s a shame but I get the feeling the future of the e-cig is going to get worse before it gets better, it won’t be long before some bright spark in government realizes all of the tax revenue being lost to them, or they just listen to the FDA and ban it for medical reasons. There is little regard for those smelly smoking lepers. Go cold turkey or use one of our "approved" useless methods.

There are also some (very local) rip off merchants, and this was obviously factored into my going totally nic free, I mix up my own PG with Menthol Crystals. I also ended up importing my own stuff but ......ed SARS guys at the PO in Epping (they won’t even deliver to my house now for fear of losing precious import revenues) did my head in, now I had a hassle factor too.

I haven’t suffered any of the health issues associated with e-cigs and personally cant see how there could be any that would be worse than inhaling burning smoke from leaves but at the same time I get the feeling inhaling anything into your lungs probably isn’t such a good thing if you can avoid it.

Since going off of the nicotine I have picked up more of a caffeine dependency and I think if there was an option of it being put intravenously into my system in the mornings I would probably take it. However the caffeine addition is a fight for another day.

I would never have believed that I could kick my 20 year incarceration to analogues, and in fact you know if it wasn’t for e-cigs I never would; I wasn’t even planning to, it just happened. These things are amazing and I won’t be traveling to far away from the forum because I for one would like other people to discover my new found freedom as well.
 

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I am on my second week on zero nicotine and hardly use my PV. I use it maybe four or five times a day to pacify me and I will have kicked that habit soon. I wont say its been an easy two weeks suffering with withdrawal symptoms (some days / hours better / worse than others) but I have just been totally focused that I will never have a analogue again (even though my wife smokes analogues which makes it a lot harder), what really helps with the PV is the fact that you can stagger your reduction in intake, first deal with the MAOI’s then the Nicotine by dropping your level at your own pace.

For me, this has been a one stop get out of jail free. It’s a shame but I get the feeling the future of the e-cig is going to get worse before it gets better, it won’t be long before some bright spark in government realizes all of the tax revenue being lost to them, or they just listen to the FDA and ban it for medical reasons. There is little regard for those smelly smoking lepers. Go cold turkey or use one of our "approved" useless methods.

There are also some (very local) rip off merchants, and this was obviously factored into my going totally nic free, I mix up my own PG with Menthol Crystals. I also ended up importing my own stuff but ......ed SARS guys at the PO in Epping (they won’t even deliver to my house now for fear of losing precious import revenues) did my head in, now I had a hassle factor too.

I haven’t suffered any of the health issues associated with e-cigs and personally cant see how there could be any that would be worse than inhaling burning smoke from leaves but at the same time I get the feeling inhaling anything into your lungs probably isn’t such a good thing if you can avoid it.

Since going off of the nicotine I have picked up more of a caffeine dependency and I think if there was an option of it being put intravenously into my system in the mornings I would probably take it. However the caffeine addition is a fight for another day.

I would never have believed that I could kick my 20 year incarceration to analogues, and in fact you know if it wasn’t for e-cigs I never would; I wasn’t even planning to, it just happened. These things are amazing and I won’t be traveling to far away from the forum because I for one would like other people to discover my new found freedom as well.




That's a great post. Especially
I would never have believed that I could kick my 20 year incarceration to analogues, and in fact you know if it wasn’t for e-cigs I never would; I wasn’t even planning to, it just happened.
Same here, same here. It's just one of those things that just happened.

The Man above knows I couldn't give up cigarettes. I though swearing off alcohol was the hardest thing ever- but that was a dance in the park compared to beating Nicotine. E-cigs just came at the right place and time and made it so easy to quit a 26 year habit, but they're not for everyone, like most things.(I should have said the RIGHT models came at the right time, because had I just started now I would be lost in a minefield of substandard junk with no heart whatsoever to continue with vaping.) I can't seem to be able to motivate the SO to make the changeover so some of us indeed get lucky.
Meanwhile all the best to those who park their sticks for the very last time and if anyone has any ideas where I can divert my lake of e-juice and spares let me know.
 

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To thumbs way up, this is great news, there is nothing more pleasing then been able to beat an addiction, once you have beaten a nicotine addiction you start to realize just how capable you are at doing just about anything you put your mind too, now that door is closed you begin to see other areas in your life you can start improving on... Have a blast and best of luck...:)

And Thank You my friend.:)
 

Vaporista

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I visited the pulmonologist yesterday for a whole battery of Lung Function tests and the last one I had was done in 2003.
This must be one of the most nerve wracking test series ever as you wait for the results and watch the computations and the faces of the medical techs, all the while wondering if everything is Ok. Being a guinea pig has its moment of truth. This is it...in the booth breathing through a hose.
Now I have a complete record of reference for the future if there should ever be any complications down the line.
The most interesting finding was that my lung function had improved since 2003 and that is now documented.
Considering I only quit tobacco 6 months ago or so, that's quite incredible.
No signs of COPD or any other nasty stuff.
I got off lucky.
Well I hope I did.
However I didn't get any cold or flu- but I did get a diagnosis of mild acute bronchitis, with mild bronchospasm which I suspect might have something to do with unclean mouthpieces or contaminated filler material. Whatever caused it, I can't point definitely at the e-cig but it is a possibility. I just hope it clears up quickly. Even the pulmonologist admits that there is not enough known yet but I refered him to this forum to the e-liquids disclosures thread and I hope other specialists will follow suit and keep an eye on everyone's lung health.
 
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Reading topics like this makes me feel pretty good about starting e-cigs. Congrats to both of you on everything. I hope to one day join the ranks of quitting like you have.
When I was a teen I was smoking a lot of marijauna. I was able to kick that habit without any problems, but for some reason I found it very hard to try quitting smoking analogs. Now with e-cigs, I have been able to cut down quite a bit. Even yesterday, when I left me e-cig at home and had to smoke analogs, I did not smoke many of them. That made me feel good about things.
I am hoping that I'll only need to use the e-cigs 6 months to a year. That is pretty much my goal right now. If it take a little longer, then so be it.
As far as the caffeine stuff. I drink a minimum of 2 2liters of coca-cola a day. I have been doing this as long as I can remember. I will work on that habit after I kick the nicotine addiction. Then I can get on with my life watching my kid grow up.

The two posts here have gave me quite a bit of inspiration. I now know that the grass is in fact greener on the other side. I thank you for that.
 

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If your initial goal was to switch to e-cigs to quit smoking, then that goal is achieved :)
I choose to retain the habit because ... hell, I like it. But I feel that I could quit the vaping ten times easier than quitting the analogs.
If I ever did try, and fail, I would be happy to resume my vaping habit knowing that it keeps me from analogs. It's a no lose situation for me.
Good luck in your future endeavours dude.
 

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If your initial goal was to switch to e-cigs to quit smoking, then that goal is achieved :)
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You know what, my goal was to stop smoking tobacco somehow. I tried vaping, I liked, I switched completedly to vaping once I found the right strength juice for me. (which was 24mg) The actual switch was completely painless. I enjoyed vaping even with all the sodding hassles I had no intention of quitting the e-cigs. It just so happened. What amazed me is how easy that was.
Do I miss vaping? Yes! I miss the delicious feeling of the throat hit. No tobacco could ever match it. Do I crave it No! I just look back with fond memories and remind myself that my 100% healthier life is ahead
I'm now comfortable with nothing needed to satisfy any hand/mouth fixation.
My senses have sharpened even more- especially sense of smell.
Tobacco smoke and particularly smokers themselves smell even more repulsive than they did when I was vaping. Tobacco smoke bothers me more and I find myself asking how I could ever ever been one of them, smelling like they do. The brain works in mysterious ways.
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Congrats Vaporista.

This is good news. I bought my first PV, not to stop analogues, but to be able to vape at my desk at work, and continue with analogues when going outside. I quit analogues 13 days ago completely, after going down to 5 a day after Vaping. I do not miss it, and I can now smell the analogue smokers in the lifts at work.

I was doing 30+ Analogues a day for 26 years, and was at peace with my deteriorating health, to suite my addiction. I must say, even with the extra hassle of vaping, I really enjoy it. Within the time frame of a month and a half, I have already bought two M402 starter packs, a DSE601, and I am awaiting my Screwdriver from TW. So I am well on my way to spending a lot of money on these things, just like you. I must say however that it is difficult to put a monetary value on the health advantages, and I needed a hobby in any case, and I am a bit of a technical junkie also.

I am still in the beginning stages, and I do not like commitments, so for the moment Vaping is the thing for me, and I will see how it goes, and hopefully, I can follow suite at some point.

I read a lot of you posts, and your input will be missed. I think what you accomplished already qualifies you as an Iron woman, no special need to partake in the Iron man. :D
 

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Well Thanks BartS. You know hoarding will start as it does with so many (actually every one of us) You'll be looking for that elusive flavour (and trust me it will be elusive) but it's a journey and like all journeys the road has some lovely surprises and some nasty surprises around the dips and corners. Hopefully you won't be spending your life on this all consuming obsession (because that is exactly what it becomes- if you allow it to get out of hand) and you will end up spending more than you intended. Cut up your credit cards after you've got a 3 month supply of attys and juice ok.
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Thanks for the advice Vaporista. I will try :D and follow it. The problem is that I get quite fanatical about things like this that I believe is really making the world and my own life a better place.

The problem with buying devices and juice is that I am on this Forum way to much, and get so excited about the different devices and solutions. I am awaiting my Screwdriver, but I am already contemplating my next device (Janty Stick, or Silver Bullet). I love vaping. It is like a hobby, and satisfying my addiction at the same time. I am a bit of a techno freak also, so I love gadgets. But I will have to hold back a little, because like you say, this can become very costly. It is fun though.:oops:
 
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