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Sandfury

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My birthday is coming up and my friends(our group pools cash together to buy bigger presents) are asking what I would like for my birthday. Well, I was thinking that maybe I should ask for a mod. So I thought I would post something to get an idea of what everyone likes in their mods and if anyone would have some recommendations. Any help would be appreciated.
 

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I think to help us help you tell us what you are looking for. Do you want something that runs at 3.7v 5v or 6v or a vari voltage MOD? What have you seen that you like?

Personally I love the variable voltage option but that limits your choices but they are growing very fast!
 

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Sorry for not being specific. I am thinking it will be around $120 or so. Thats normally where its at, give or take some. I am looking for a good amount of vapor, with a good amount of flavor and little fuss. I have an Ego-T and a Go Go right now and for the most part they are pretty good on the no fuss part. I am just looking for something that is consistent.
 

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For that price range, I'd go for a Buzz VV. I have 3 of them and love them (two for the 801/302 and one for a 510/306), runs on two 16340 bats. Of course, you can use an adapter on any atomizer set up you buy or buy an extra top cap in a different atomizer threading. I've even used a Ego-T on my Buzz with an adapter. Just that extra bit of voltage (option) makes any atomizer pump out vapor and allows you to keep the flavor of your liquid (which 6v can wash out). They're easy to adjust to what ever voltage works best with your atty set up. The PCB in them can futz out, but Mike at NotCigs has always quickly dealt with any issue (within warranty, it will just cost you the postage to send it back). I think for the money, it is one of the safest mods out there for high voltage due to the PCB built into them. Don't know if Chad still has them in stock or not.

If you don't want high voltage, the Alpha is a great smaller size and the plunger switch (no button) is awesome. Runs on a 14500 battery. Got mine from Chad at Ecigsupply locally (no shipping $). I love it. Great fit in my hand and doesn't fire in my purse/pocket.

You could save some of those birthday bucks and look on the Classifieds for something slightly used (post a WTB for what ever model you decide you want) and use the rest of the money for some new attys, accessories or Birthday BEER. LOL
 

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Sandfury, I can throw a little more info into the mix and hope it will not info-overload you.

I have never had any Vaprlife devices. There are a few people in the ElixirTV room who have them and they generally seem happy. I have read some varying reviews but that can happen on any device. I think they use some less common and possibly smaller batts. I'd suggest you look into that.

When it comes to variable voltage, especially if you want to use the lower voltage ranges with LR attys, the batteries' capacity to output the correct amps for the volts and atty combo becomes important. Without getting too technical, according to Ohms Law, every combination of atty ohms and battery/device voltage setting demands a certain level of amps to accurately drive that combination. If the batteries do not have sufficient amps capacity, the volts suffer from voltage drop-off (lost volts) until the amps available can satisfy the Ohms Law demands (its a mathematical equation thing). So far, I have only found AW IMR batteries can satisfy all ranges of atty/volts combinations. If you are using standard resistance (attys 2+ ohms), this often becomes less of an issue. But, the general consensus seems to be that AW IMR batteries give the best range (for tube style batts). I am not sure if there is an AW IMR in the size to fit the vaprlife devices but you may want to look into this. I would suggest AW IMRs for most devices other than unregulated 6V devices - for these I only use AW LifePO4 rcr123a 3 volt batteries (and a charger with a specific 3-volt charge setting).

As for other possible VV devices, while I have not used the Buzz, I have read good things about it and trust Hellen's opinion. As with all devices, each has pro(s) and con(s). The Buzz is light weight and many post positively. The only down side I know of is that the electronics inside are not (or used to be not - don't know if they changed this) sealed. So, while it is unlikely you will ever get juice inside - if it should happen, probably not the best scenario but also probably not dangerous either.

Another similar device is the VV Saber Touch. This operates very similar to Buzz but is a bit bigger, noticeably heavier and probably a bit more money (around $150). Saber's electronics are completely sealed. But, as I said, it is considerably bulkier and heavier. This device uses a touch sensor to activate it. Some people like this very much and others do not. The VV Saber has a 90 day warranty while the 5V regulated Saber and unregulated 3.7/6V Sabers both come with 5 year warranty (all only apply to original owners).

I am pretty sure that both Buzz and Saber require you to use some sort of meter to accurately set the voltage and a small screwdriver to adjust. Some people say "just set/adjust to taste". If you are fine with that - many people use this technique. Saber comes with a connector with alligator clips wires to easily connect to a meter to see your volts setting. Some vendors sell a little digital meter that threads directly onto the device and when you push the device button, the little meter shows the voltage - very quick and easy. Madvapes also sells something similar but a bit better. Their little meter ($13) allows you to connect an atty on top of the digital readout so you can see the actual voltage under-load (device volts with atty attached "under-load" can be different from device alone). It is currently out of stock but you can see it here: http://www.madvapes.com/Assembled-Voltage-Indicator_p_2894.html

After all of that, you might consider saving up just a bit more and going for PrioVari. At a price of about $160, this device offers many advantages. It uses only one 3.7 volt battery. Stock is AW IMR 18500 (aka 18490) with 1100 mah. You can buy an extension cap so that you can use the AW IMR 18650 1800 mah larger battery. The device uses boost technology so you can vape 3.3 to 6.0 volts with longer lived battery life and not have to stack batteries. The device also has a variety of safety features. It also has all the meters built into the device. It has only one button so you have to press it a bunch of times to access the menus but you can see the remaining batter life, atty ohms, and your volt settings and change volts settings without having to connect any meters (or use little screwdrivers) at all. I think Vapopotamus, at our meet, has one so you can ask him about it. I had one and posted my first impressions in the reviews section. I now use Darwin, which is more expensive, because I prefer it - for other reasons. ProVari IS a great device tho.

I know this is a lot of info. I would be happy to help you more - if you want it. I hope this does not give you a headache! :blink:
PM me if I can help you further.
and :bday: :banana:
 

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I love the ProVari, tried the Darwin and it is very impressive! That will defiantly be the next MOD I save for. I got the ProVari out the door with 2 battery's (no charger I have one already) for $182.00 the battery's last about 5 hours for me and I vape at about 4.7v and go through about 3 - 4 ML a day. I also have a silver bullet and this device is a work horse it has never failed me. I also bought an Infinity from Notcig's. This was a fussy device and do not recommend it unless you know what ohms your atty's are at for sure. It will not operate under 2.2v I am on my 3rd Infinity and so far it is working.
 

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Brain did not explode. Which is a good thing as I think my wife and child might miss me. Just some general questions. I guess I should say that I am still a little confused as to why I would want one :p I know I want one because everyone says that mods provide the best experience and well, I want the best experience. (I did try the Darwin at the Meetup last sunday, nice flavor and vapor was that because of the voltage?) Sorry to be such a noobie.

So, how do you know what ohms your atomizer is running at? What is the point of running higher voltage? I only have tried using a 510 LR Atomizer (on an ego-t battery), and I remember reading somewhere that they are not recommended for use at higher voltages or something like that. If thats the case and the LR is supposed to be the best atomizer for flavor and vaper, is there a point to going over the highest voltage? I have also read somewhere that LR atomizers use the charge on a battery faster because there is less resistance. Would a good assumption of a mod be that it would allow me to set a constant voltage with out the fear of voltage drop of as the battery slowly dies, thus improving my vaping experience as the day goes one with out having to pop in fresh batteries.

Is there a good place to get a general break down of why one would want to run higher voltages? What atomizer is best? So on and so forth.

Thanks again for all your help guys and gals.
 
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Sandfury - you are asking a lot of very technical questions that each can have very lengthy and detailed answers. I'll try to give you some short answers but this may be better to take into PM or skype. I also have limited time today but will be more than happy to help you. BTW, I was the person who brought the Darwins to the meet.

"Mod" is short for modification. This term originated early in vaping when people started modifying and making devices to handle different batteries, cartridges, etc. More accurately - today these are all "devices" as few are actually "modified" anymore. There are people who modify and make their own devices but the ones so far discussed are all really devices and not really "mods".

All devices are different and have different combinations of batteries, voltage options (can come from using different batteries - if a device can use different batteries - e.g. unregulated devices that can run on a single 3.7 volt battery and also operate on two 3 volt batteries = 6V), or have variable voltage in which the device has a feature to allow you to set a particular voltage from a much larger range of options.

LR attys are an option for lower voltage devices to simulate (or imitate) the experiences of vaping at higher voltages (warmer and more intense vaping). they are not meant to be used on higher voltage (usually no higher than 3.7 volts) but some people do like to push them. They do use up batteries faster. This can get very technical because we are entering into the discussion of Ohms Law. In the most rudimentary sense: there is a mathematical sequence that dictates what is known as Ohms Law and it is unbreakable. Different combinations of volts, amps and Ohms (the resistance of the atomizer coil = length and gauge of the coil wire) yields watts - or heat output. This heat output is what turns the juice into vapor. By using different volts, batteries and different atty resistance levels (ohms) we alter the vapor flavor, throat hit, warmth and intensity.

Different atty models like 510, 306, 901 and 801 are all different designs of atomizers which each have their own personality characteristics. People sort of have to try many different combinations of voltages and atty models to find their own personal and subjective preferences. so, there is really no "best" only what is "best" for YOU. this is one of the many great benefits of going to the vape meets as we get a chance to see other devices, atomizers, etc and ask other people about which they like and why.

Unfortunately, i am out of time for now. I'd be happy to spend more time with you - why not PM me and we can rake this further - if you might like to - at another time, perhaps on a skype call as this could become a LOT of typing! :lol:
 
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