FDA and its concerns?
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Well I think all scrutiny from the FDA is coming from the pressures put by large tobacco companies and nicotine replacement product companies. I think they'll just tax us and call it a day.
Thanks for the replies I was thinking they were going to limit the mg of nicotine in the juices, but your replies make sense
The most informative place to find this information is from CASAA CASAA - The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association , the Smokefree Advocates for Smokefree Alternatives Association. They are a voluntary organization that educate and attempt to protect the rights of vapors.
The FDA imposed a ban on e-cigarettes a few years ago, but that decision was reversed in court and further action reserved until April 2013, which is next month. No one knows what the FDA has up its sleeve this time around. It could end up being nothing more than regulating nicotine and e-liquids to an all out ban on nicotine liquids and the devices used. The FDA & Deeming Regulations of E-cigarettes
"In theory, anything that wasn't on the market prior to 2007 could be banned until it was approved for sale by the FDA, unless it could prove that it is “substantially equivalent” to a “grandfathered” product that was being sold. Because electronic cigarette designs have changed and improved so dramatically since 2007 and many weren't even on the market in the U.S. prior to 2007, this regulation could deny consumers access to hundreds of existing products (leaving them access only to products on the market prior to February 2007) and put many electronic cigarette companies out of business - unless and until they can demonstrate their product does not raise different questions of public health compared to the approved products. The criteria to gain this approval is highly subjective and required documentation could be time consuming and extremely expensive..."
There are a couple of heavy hitting players with big money and political lobbying power in Big Tobacco and Big Pharmacy, not to mention all of the anti-smoking groups. Each one has their own special interests to influence the FDA to their own benefit. CASAA is the vapor's lone advocate to retain our right to vape. If not a member, I urge you to join for free. The link is in my signature below.
It is fact that e-cigarettes are banned in several countries already, in some counties in the US, and nicotine e-liquid banned in Canada. Organizations such as WHO have called for a halt in the sale of e-cigarettes. I feel how the FDA rules will affect e-cigarettes for the entire world, as how the US goes so goes the rest of the world.
There is already a thread in progress that is discussing this topic here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/393552-should-we-stocking-up-just-case.html
The FDA imposed a ban on e-cigarettes a few years ago, but that decision was reversed in court and further action reserved until April 2013, which is next month. No one knows what the FDA has up its sleeve this time around. It could end up being nothing more than regulating nicotine and e-liquids to an all out ban on nicotine liquids and the devices used. The FDA & Deeming Regulations of E-cigarettes
"In theory, anything that wasn't on the market prior to 2007 could be banned until it was approved for sale by the FDA, unless it could prove that it is “substantially equivalent” to a “grandfathered” product that was being sold. Because electronic cigarette designs have changed and improved so dramatically since 2007 and many weren't even on the market in the U.S. prior to 2007, this regulation could deny consumers access to hundreds of existing products (leaving them access only to products on the market prior to February 2007) and put many electronic cigarette companies out of business - unless and until they can demonstrate their product does not raise different questions of public health compared to the approved products. The criteria to gain this approval is highly subjective and required documentation could be time consuming and extremely expensive..."
There are a couple of heavy hitting players with big money and political lobbying power in Big Tobacco and Big Pharmacy, not to mention all of the anti-smoking groups. Each one has their own special interests to influence the FDA to their own benefit. CASAA is the vapor's lone advocate to retain our right to vape. If not a member, I urge you to join for free. The link is in my signature below.
It is fact that e-cigarettes are banned in several countries already, in some counties in the US, and nicotine e-liquid banned in Canada. Organizations such as WHO have called for a halt in the sale of e-cigarettes. I feel how the FDA rules will affect e-cigarettes for the entire world, as how the US goes so goes the rest of the world.
There is already a thread in progress that is discussing this topic here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/393552-should-we-stocking-up-just-case.html
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They don't care about your health, only do what's best to achieve the bottomline for our gov't, mainly making $.
Thanks Baditude for the post will definitely check all that out
Please do.
It is my personal opinion that the FDA already knows what it will decide to do with e-cigs before the testimonies and hearings. They have not shown a likeness for the e-cig industry in the past, and there is no reason to believe that they have changed. We do have some members here who have some inside information on the FDA here: Legislation Newsright n big tobacco doesn't have enough $ to throw at them to compensate for the revenue banning ecigs outright would leave on the table, they can tax the juice and make more $ than big tobacco could ever come up w/. thats why i say all they're gonna do is reg and tax it - it makes the most $ for our govt/
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no one here actually knows what the FDA is planning.
but there's plenty of conspiracy theories to keep you entertained in the meantime.
but there's plenty of conspiracy theories to keep you entertained in the meantime.
You're not trying hard enough!I;m j/k btw baditude, I love ur posts just sick of u nullifying all mine w/ all ur rock solid facts and info (and pics)
BTW, I'm dead serious when I say I am alarmed at the possibility that we vapors could lose our right to vape.
I can understand why Big Pharmacy wants e-cigs banned; it's because e-cigs actually are more effective than their own products in getting smokers off of cigarettes and safer to boot. Instead of developing their own line of e-cigs, they are choosing to lobby the FDA to eliminate e-cigs altogether.
Yes, Big Tobacco is losing some money to e-cigs, but they have already tested the waters with their own e-cig products. Their goal is to gain a monopoly on how nicotine is regulated so that it is in their favor. Imagine the only way to get your nicotine would be in the form of pre-filled cartomizers with less than 6mg strength nicotine, and bottled e-liquid with nicotine banned for sale. This would put juice vendors out of business...no more flavored nicotine e-juice in bottles for clearomizers, cartotanks, Vivi Nova's, RBA's, etc.
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I think the FDA will take a big hit of Pina Colada 18 mg, fall in love, join hands, and sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing"
Insert baditude quote here...too lazy to go back and edit...
Fear-mongering I say! You're probably right lol but I take comfort in the fact that we'll have at least a few months if/when the prop passes in which to buy gallons upon gallons of sweet smelling soon to be black market nic juice/
Fear-mongering I say! You're probably right lol but I take comfort in the fact that we'll have at least a few months if/when the prop passes in which to buy gallons upon gallons of sweet smelling soon to be black market nic juice/
The best option for all parties involved is to eliminate electronic cigarettes.
This has already been done in a number of countries.
The FDA already tried that a few years ago, and lucky for us the courts stepped in and stopped them.
So what is logically their next best option? To render them useless.
This is exactly what the EU is currently trying to do.
Will they succeed? Will the FDA try the same thing? Nobody knows yet.
But we know they have the power to do so, and we know they have tried to do so in the past.
The difference now is that there are more and more of us every day, and we have shown we're not going to sit back and take it.
We have passion on our side, and they have seen how hard we'll fight them.
This has already been done in a number of countries.
The FDA already tried that a few years ago, and lucky for us the courts stepped in and stopped them.
So what is logically their next best option? To render them useless.
This is exactly what the EU is currently trying to do.
Will they succeed? Will the FDA try the same thing? Nobody knows yet.
But we know they have the power to do so, and we know they have tried to do so in the past.
The difference now is that there are more and more of us every day, and we have shown we're not going to sit back and take it.
We have passion on our side, and they have seen how hard we'll fight them.
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