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Hi Amy. Welcome to the ECF.
Even if the FDA wasn't involved in e-Cigarettes, you should have Back-Ups if an e-Cigarette is the Only thing keeping you from Smoking.
e-Cigarettes Break or can get Lost. And everyone knows that you only Spill a Bottle of something if it is the Only Bottle you have.
A non complaint Vape is anything released after August 8th 2016.
And yes you need to stock up on Vape gear and juice.
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I don't see it as a need just yet. Instead I see it as prudent to do so before the need arises. If/when it becomes unquestionable that there is such a need, product selection and prices likely won't be as attractive as they are today.
But regardless whether anyone decides to stock up, I'm with @zoiDman; every new vaper should have at least two complete working setups. They do break or mysteriously stop working.
If you only have 1 internal battery mod, then yes you need more. What happens when that battery stops holding a charge? That is just one of the many reasons I prefer mods with replaceable batteries.
If you are new to vaping, and using it as a tool to keep off the traditional cigarettes, you should have at least a small back-up supply of coils, juice, tanks, and mods. Think of it more like stocking the food pantry in case of a storm that keeps you away from the grocery store, rather than doomsday prepping to survive for years after "the big one." You don't want to run out of something and have to choose between a quick trip for a new pack, or a longer trip to replace vape stuff.
You can certainly start to stock on some things if you know you are in this for the long haul, but I think most of us here are not using the same vapes as when we started. We changed, technology changed, and what was good at the start may not be what we use now. Poke around in here a while and learn what people like and don't like about their gear and get an idea about what you think will work for you.
Welcome to ECF, and good luck on your journey.
Prior to Aug 8th 2016 panic I stockpiled a lot of gear and supplies. But since then I've been rotating out the cheaper stuff and clones for quality gear, hell I've spent a fortune but I'm very much in a comfort zone when the hammer comes down. What am I going to miss? Well mostly the variety of juices for I'm going to have to mix my own. There are a number of juices I'm going to really miss, yes there are recipes out there but bottom line is for the complex flavors I don't hold much hope on duplicating it.
My suggestion...as a MTL vaper (the way MOST smokers smoke)...a GREAT (and inexpensive) set-up...
Innokin Zenith MTL Vape Tank
best price $26.95 (FREE shipping)...(I'd also add a couple $8.95/5-pack coils)...
https://www.directvapor.com/tanks-rdas/innokin-zenith-mtl-vape-tank.html
If you want to read more about it: Innokin Zenith MTL tank--Phil Busardo
Sinuous P80 Mod:
$23-$29...
Vapecrawler
If you want to read more about it: SINUOUS P80
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Worse case scenario will be nothing except cigalikes made by Big Tobacco will be available to new vapers. They will be "closed system", meaning you won't be able to add your own e-liquid...essentially they will be expensive disposable devices.
This is why many long time vapers have learned to DIY their own liquids and stockpiled concentrated nicotine in their freezers. Many have learned to make their own coils/wicks for rebuildable atomizers.
US Customs will have the authority to seize all e-cig products that are not a cigalike. Many new vapors don't believe US Customs can accomplish this, but history shows that it already happened back in 2009 after the first Deeming Regulations. This temporarily killed the vaping industry and put many online shops out of business because they couldn't get product for several months and they never recovered what Customs took.
This is why many long time vapers have learned to DIY their own liquids and stockpiled concentrated nicotine in their freezers. Many have learned to make their own coils/wicks for rebuildable atomizers.
US Customs will have the authority to seize all e-cig products that are not a cigalike. Many new vapors don't believe US Customs can accomplish this, but history shows that it already happened back in 2009 after the first Deeming Regulations. This temporarily killed the vaping industry and put many online shops out of business because they couldn't get product for several months and they never recovered what Customs took.
Bad...you just convinced me to order (since I still "can")...a couple more Zenith MTL Vape Tanks and a couple more Sinuous P80 Mods...
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Agree, if the feds make it a priority, they may miss some but, they can bring down the industry.
From an advocacy standpoint, what can be done about it? Nothing, if they are acting within the rules that they themselves enacted, and already been granted a victory in court. It would be foolish to issue a call to action on something that there is no grounds to fight.
This could be the exception that proves the rule.
Trust me, with the mass loss of Tobacco revenue for the Government plus the mass loss in revenue to Big Pharma, it is a priority.
The FDA articles back it up, why hasn't other Vaping Org's picked it up?
Well ..........
As I've been complaining a for a very long time now they have their heads in the sand (other place really). I have yet to walk into ANY B&M and see ANY advocacy information. Well that is except for only one place in New Orleans, but every other B&M has NOTHING nor do they mention anything to any customers about it. All you can hear from on line advocacy is for Vapers to send money, but I have yet to see much if anything from the retail end. It's not like their business and income will be affected you know. I do know a few people active in the advocacy end and they have all told me that participation from the retail and manufacturing end is under 10%, pretty pathetic ya know.
So bottom line is this, insure you have a respectable stockpile if you want to stay off the Stinkies and Vape.
What I recommend in order of priority is -
- A few liters of 100mg nic in PG base stored in the freezer (most critical)
- A few Mod's
- At least a couple of quality Mech's and no I don't recommend cheap Mech's like the Noisy Cricket
- A few RTA's and RDA's
The majority of the other things like PG, VG, Cotton, Batteries can easily be purchased elsewhere for they all have other major uses other than Vaping. The weak link is Nic though, insure you have have a few liters stored.
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