FDA: PG carcinogen ?

[martinc]

Well,the La Presse edito ( 2 full pages i was told--doubtfull) is made from 2008 material;they are just surfing the wave of sensationalism 9as usual) and probably felt dumb having let The Globe and mail do it 1st.

Everybody that knows that I am vaping at work and at th dog park came to me today with some obscure stories and quotes...they were put on the straight path right away to the best of my knowledge.

They said that they all contained anti-freeze and/or alcohol...miserable journalism.

 

[Song]

The same quote also says PG is found in anti-freeze. It's painfully obvious with this statement that they are spinning the truth and misleading people.

The FDA has already said that "Because of its low chronic oral toxicity, propylene glycol [is] "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) for use as a direct food additive."

So which is it? A toxic carcinogen that is as harmful to the body as anti-freeze, or safe for human consumption in foods? It can't be both.

Never mind PG been in anti-freeze, it contains dihydrogen monoxide!!!!

dihydrogen monixide:

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate dna, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

for further information about dihydrogen monoxide please visit Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info

 

[Mindfield]

Never mind PG been in anti-freeze, it contains dihydrogen monoxide!!!!

dihydrogen monixide:

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate dna, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

for further information about dihydrogen monoxide please visit Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division - dihydrogen monoxide info

EVIL!

 

[runout_mick]

Dihydrogen monoxide is no joke.

I accidentally inhaled some as a child and very nearly died. I was at the beach with my family and a large pocket of it had formed in a depression in the ground, as it's heavier than air.

I have no idea why it's not outlawed already, the threats are clear and real.

 

[Concat]

lol, wow I'm an idiot for buying that for all of 30 seconds.

 

[Bluesmaster75]

I needed a good laugh this morning thanks. Song,Mindfield and runout-mick.

 

[VIVAP2]

Nice website. And we can support the cause in teaching people on the dangers of DHMO in buying a T-shirt from their site.
(I keep frozen cubes samples in my freezer to show friends and family)

 

[Trailer]

i Was recently at the dentist for some rather extensive dental work. Upon leaving they supplied me with a prescription strength mouth wash to help with inflammation and the rebuilding of healthy bacteria in my mouth ( ?). It tastes like minty ... and only has 3 ingredients.
The main ingredient is PG.

 

[kanadiankat]

i Was recently at the dentist for some rather extensive dental work. Upon leaving they supplied me with a prescription strength mouth wash to help with inflammation and the rebuilding of healthy bacteria in my mouth ( ?). It tastes like minty ... and only has 3 ingredients.
The main ingredient is PG.

Yeah - it`s the main ingredient in most mouthwashes.

did you know though - that your mouthwash also contains Dihydrogen monoxide.... (lol)

 

[mavrik]

The same quote also says PG is found in anti-freeze. It's painfully obvious with this statement that they are spinning the truth and misleading people.

The FDA has already said that "Because of its low chronic oral toxicity, propylene glycol [is] "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) for use as a direct food additive."

So which is it? A toxic carcinogen that is as harmful to the body as anti-freeze, or safe for human consumption in foods? It can't be both.

well, i think its different than you think.... it is different when vaped than when eaten but also different if mixed with other chemicals and agents... PG is definatly in anti-freeze because unlike water it will not freeze or boil unless at extreme temps.. it is also used in heating systems (heated driveways), and used as aeroplane de-icer .... i vape alot but this still worries me....thats why i try to stick to VG

 

[wood]

The same quote also says PG is found in anti-freeze. It's painfully obvious with this statement that they are spinning the truth and misleading people.

The FDA has already said that "Because of its low chronic oral toxicity, propylene glycol [is] "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) for use as a direct food additive."

So which is it? A toxic carcinogen that is as harmful to the body as anti-freeze, or safe for human consumption in foods? It can't be both.

not disagreeing but im a plumber / sprinkler fitter and when we fill the systems with antifreeze so it doesnt break the pipes the big drums are labbled PG , kinda worried me lol , but it is called a glycol loop when we have to do that

 

[runout_mick]

Just because it's an "antifreeze" doesn't make it inherently bad. Salt water is an antifreeze. Propylene Glycol is used as a NON-TOXIC antifreeze for some applications, such as de-icing planes or keeping water lines from freezing. The people comparing it to the antifreeze in your car's radiator are using underhanded scare tactics to prey on peoples' inherent fears. They are not remotely the same things.

 

[wood]

its glycol , that is all , vehicle antifreeze is much different as runout has said , i bet that you can use ejuice as antifreeze lol not for your car though

 

[hugrem]

im sure they will legal it , im sure !

 

[TrueNorthist]

So the journalist is either guilty of spreading FUD or isn't engaging in anything that should properly be called journalism.

Nor science for that matter. It should be called pseudo science. We seem to have a lot of that around these days.

 

[TrueNorthist]

did you know though - that your mouthwash also contains Dihydrogen monoxide.... (lol)

Ban it! Won't somebody think of the children? Oh, the humanity. I can't go on... (sob)

 

[OntariAuLait]

It is antifreeze...You just have to think of it the other way around...

There is a toxic antifreeze (EG) and it was hurting animals, and then someone said "Hey! This harmless substance (PG) doesn't freeze either!", so they make "safe" antifreeze out of that instead.

I have heard of people's skin being horribly burnt by DHMO. Even it's vapours are dangerous if you are close enough.

 

[ThunderHammer]

One of the most interesting uses for PG according ti Wiki is in pipe tobacco. So, as long as it's being added to deadly, government supported and taxed poison, ensuring beyond doubt that our health care system will continue to be strained by tobacco related disease, it's OK with Health Canada.

Others: Non-toxic anti freeze for drinking water systems; As a solvent for food colors and flavorings; As a humectant food additive, labeled as E number E1520.
I know you all know this stuff, but it can't be repeated enough.

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Rainz]

Gotta love the propaganda.

Just wondering when Health Canada is going to ban all GMOs and fake sweeteners and list them as being carcinogens?

Yes... doesn't the fda say that aspartame and MSG are safe too? I know they're supposed to be the source that consumers can trust to keep them safe, but history shows that if there's big money to be made on any item, it will somehow slip through the cracks. My SGP theory(someone got paid) usually applies if something put out for the public seems questionable.

On the other hand, I also believe the gov has and will continue to tweak the reports of their testing agencies to reflect their agenda. As for PG being dangerous to inhale... this may be propaganda to plant the seed of fear in future vapers. The reports may say something like "our testing hasn't determined yet if it will kill you", and that's usually enough to scare most people off.

 

[mikeinbc]

Yes... doesn't the fda say that aspartame and MSG are safe too? I know they're supposed to be the source that consumers can trust to keep them safe, but history shows that if there's big money to be made on any item, it will somehow slip through the cracks. My SGP theory(someone got paid) usually applies if something put out for the public seems questionable.

On the other hand, I also believe the gov has and will continue to tweak the reports of their testing agencies to reflect their agenda. As for PG being dangerous to inhale... this may be propaganda to plant the seed of fear in future vapers. The reports may say something like "our testing hasn't determined yet if it will kill you", and that's usually enough to scare most people off.

The FDA cannot be trusted. They have a history of approving dangerous products that are profitable to Big Pharma and banning safe products that would reduce the profits of Big Pharma. It has gotten to the point where I would think about trying an item they have banned and stay away from items they have approved.