FDA's comment about nicotine in E-Cigs...

[Drewps5co0tt]

I was reading an article dated back in 09 I believe where the FDA claims that the nicotine in e-juice (should you get juice that contains nicotine of course) is actually NOT real nicotine but "synthetic" nicotine AKA fake. Is this really true? If so, there are a lot of websites out there lying their asses off to their customers.

Personally I use 0MG because I haven't smoked in 6 months and just started using the e-cig and felt that adding nicotine back into my body would be a mistake so it doesn't really affect me but still...I'd like to know the truth on this.

I think the FDA is just ...... because the governments are losing money to the e-cig and they are running their mouths!

 

[hairball]

No the nic isn't synthetic. Synthetic nic would be waaaay too expensive to use in our juices. What we use is still derived from tobacco. That was one of the FDA's scare tactics to try to get people not to use ecigs. Didn't work.

 

[jj2]

So FDA.

 

[yvilla]

No, it is not true. All nicotine in eliquids is derived from tobacco. "Synthetic" nicotine, while possible to synthesize, would be prohibitively expensive, and is not used.

However, I do not believe the FDA actually ever made that particular claim either. Without a link to what you are referring to, however, it cannot be determined whether the miscomunication stems from some reporter's simple misunderstanding or something.

There is indeed a lot of confusion out there about "synthetic" nicotine - even from some people who ought to know better, like some suppliers/resellers of eliquid. Somethimes the confusion comes from the claim that a given eliquid contains no tobacco, or at least is not "homebrew" distilled from tobacco - which may be perfectly true, but nonetheless the USP nicotine used in its manufacture is still derived from tobacco in a lab.

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

Yvilla I was just reading the article, I'll have to pull it...give me a second!

BTW...do you guys think the FDA will ever ban them from the states? God I pray not!

Hold for link...

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

Here is one article: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=104043 had to do a Google search just to pull one up, I have so much stuff in my history I couldn't find the one I was just reading 15 minutes ago!

I see what you are saying though, if it didn't come from the FDA's mouth it might not be true.

 

[Thulium]

Yvilla I was just reading the article, I'll have to pull it...give me a second!

BTW...do you guys think the FDA will ever ban them from the states? God I pray not!

Hold for link...

To borrow a phrase from my childhood: "They would if they could, but they can't so they won't."

The FDA wanted to regulate e-cigarettes under their authority for drugs and devices because under the FDCA they have authority to ban and seize unapproved drugs, but they do not have the authority to ban or seize unregulated tobacco products.

It may be possible for lawmakers to ban "unregulated tobacco products"--which is undoubtedly what they would *like* to do so that people will ignore the fact that the FDA chose to regulate the MOST dangerous products, combustible cigarettes, first, leaving Cigars, Pipes, roll-your-own, smokeless, and dissolvables unregulated as well so IF they FDA could ban e-cigs, it will take them some time to do it. Rest assured that Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives will be doing all we can to make sure that doesn't happen.

 

[yvilla]

Dayvid, yeah, it looks like the one use of the word "synthetic" in that article was pure ignorance on the reporter's part.

He was referring to the FDA's now infamous July 2009 press release, which disingenuously touted finding the presence of "carcinogens" in eliquid (without revealing it was trace levels of TSNAs comparable to those found in FDA approved NRT products, and burying the fact that even those trace amounts were found in only some of the 18 carts tested), and the presence of other "toxic chemicals" such as diethylene glycol (again burying the fact that this trace amount was only found in 1 of the 18 carts tested).

But if you go straight to the source - you will see that the FDA never did make any claim about "synthetic" nicotine. To the contrary, the press release and FDA "summary" of the lab results also complain of the presence of other "tobacco-specific impurities" in eliquid, besides the scant TSNA's and solitary DEG findings.

FDA and Public Health Experts Warn About Electronic Cigarettes
Summary of Results: Laboratory Analysis of Electronic Cigarettes Conducted By FDA

What happened was that the extremist antis and the media spread the FDA's disingenuous and misleading press release information far and wide, to the extent that garbage is still being spewed today, and even impacting state and local legislation efforts to ban either the sale or public use of ecigs, all without hardly anyone even taking the time and effort to read the actual FDA lab report, which is not nearly so misleading as the FDA press release and summary everyone points to.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/ScienceResearch/UCM173250.pdf

 

[JC Okie]

So FDA.

Soooo true. LOVE your avi....thank you so much. And so it begins......I'm so excited. Sorry for the OT post.