Feel like I am missing something, advice sought?

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TaraMc

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So my inventory runs as follows:

4 Tornado T atomisers (A type)
5 650mah Ego T batteries
2 650mah Ego C batteries
1 650mah Ego C passthrough
2 Ego C cones and bases
3 Ego C atomisers
10 DSE 901 atomisers
2 510-901 adapters
10 Boge SR cartomisers
5 old style CE2 Clearomisers (lovingly and carefully modded to stop the tubes splitting/leaking)
Selection of drip tips, most of them CV ming or pawn
2 Empire Mods Drip shields (which I use on both the 901 to ya know actually catch drips and on the cartos to tighten the draw)
2 SD Keyrings

A reasonable amount of kit for somebody who has only been vaping full time for a little over 4mths, all of it serves a purpose and all of it "should" be more than enough to satisfy most vaping needs, yet I'm feeling like something is missing, not quite "hitting the spot".

I've been toying with the idea of trading all the batts and pass through with somebody who has a screwdriver and tank conversion kit they don't use, but I rejected the screwdriver when I first started vaping as I have small hands and that thing looks chunky (not big just chunky), but really is it really going to make a difference, it's still essentially a static voltage device and I think part of what is missing is VV, but I really don't want a Torpedo/Lava Tube type device for the same reason, too chunky.

The other thing I thing that is causing me some dissatifaction is the sheer amount of kit, I'd quite like a tidy one device does everything PV and I was looking perhaps at staying with the Ego/510 batts but perhaps getting a Mark-T rebuildable atty instead as I can DD and use a tank with one head thus cutting down on space.

To be honest I think what I need is a VV upgrade that will help me cut down my kit, but I really have no clue where to start especially as it seems that many of the UK based stockists I can find on the web don't seem to be selling many of the devices I see folks discussing here and I'm just not sure I'm ready to start modding; I'd really value some opinions.
 

TaraMc

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*sweet baby jebus* so I looked at the price tag and thought, ok, that's not the end of the world and then I realised that's without any batteries, or charger, or anything *gulp*

BUT..... I really can't imagine going back to cigarettes now, and what price is that worth if it keeps me vaping, so next question is, would the Mark-T atomiser work with a Provari?
 

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What you are missing is 3.7v batteries and low resistance cartos. Try some Boge 2.0 ohm cartos at 3.7v and your eyes will light up at the difference. Your eGo batteries are little cool at 3.4v and virtually useless with standard resistance atomizers and cartos.

A variable voltage mod will definitely open up a new world of vaping. That said, you can duplicate most of the experience by matching voltage and resistance to obtain about 7-8 watts in coil current draw/heat. That occurs at 2 ohms and 3.7v to 4.2v. For under $25, an eGo variable voltage 900mah battery will get you there.

Look at this chart for clues about what you can use to generate that level of vaping.
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MrGiggly

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Hi there,

If you are thinking about a Mark-T, Rawveg does a series on repairable atomisers, starting with that model. Part1. I found them very informative, however I have to confess to skipping some parts.

It might also be worth checking out some other youtube vids on the variable voltage devices. Its hard to get a sense of scale of them until you see someone using them. The provari looks 'huge' on the provape site :)

Personally I would keep your kit, as I don't think a single repairable atty is going to cover every base and situation. I have a bulli a2-tm which is very similar to the mark-t. I've set it up for dripping and I also have the ego type mega tank for it, however building the coil wicks requires completely different approaches. Very short for the tank and long wick loops for dripping. This means you can't just swap them over on the hoof.

I've found I like to use my ego style batteries with a cartomiser for on the go and when I'm at home either cartomiser tanks or a dripping atomiser. It all depends on how I feel. Of course everyone is different and perhaps you will find something that covers all your bases in one fell swoop.

Last thought from me is, you can never have too many backups for your backups :)
 

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TaraMC, NOT that I'm mocking you but God! This could have been ME! I started with the V2cigs kit and passthrough and realized I made a mistake with devices that put out that much voltage (at least for my taste) and was starting the Ego route but thanks to this forum and all the wise suggestions, I put everything aside and ended up going with the Provari. Yes, it's expensive. Yes, it seems alike an awful amount of money being that isn't e-smoking supposed to SAVE me money? But if I didn't run across Provari, reading about the lavatube and the other VV's out there, I could have EASILY spent much more than just outright purchasing the Provari. Needless to say, I LOVE the provari and in its stock form (the standard size battery, I think it's 18490 or something like that), it's really NOT bulky. Heavy as compared to other batteries, yes but not necessarily bulkier. If it would help maybe sell most of what you have to ease the pain of the cost but I felt compelled to respond with my experience and maybe help shed some light on future expenses vs. just purchasing the provari outright. I THOUGHT about the lavatube but in the end, due to Provari's customer support and build quality made the Provari choice.
 

TaraMc

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TaraMC, NOT that I'm mocking you but God!

Lol I do hope not! as I said at the start every peice of kit does a specific job and I'm not unhappy with the job they do, they just don't do everything I want on a day to day basis. I actually looked at the high end and VV kits back when I got my first Ego T kit, I had been vaping occasionally for 3 years before that with a DSE103 and a half a dozen batteries, so never in a million years imagined that I would even be considering such devices, in fact when I bought the Ego T everybody I knew that vaped had recommended getting a standard 510 with an auto batt based on my previous usage and I threw caution to the wind and sprung for an Ego instead and I was so glad I did as the day my Ego arrived I finished a packet of rolling tobacco (I was a 30 a day minimum hand rolled) so I thought I would see how long it was before I needed to go buy more, 136 days later I still haven't gone to get that next packet of baccy.

You can't mock results like that, the Ego did what it was intended to do; just now I think I'm ready to turn this into something more than a quit smoking device, I've already dropped from 18mg to between 4 & 6mg depending upon the time of day as I'm not even sure nicotene is what I want from the device any more (although it is still nice).

My jury is still out as to whether I want a Provari or not, I came > < this close to hitting the checkout button last night and then closed the browser because some of my favourite pasttimes include sitting hands free with a PV hanging out my lips (even when I am not vaping) the Ego's are small enough to allow me to do that. I think what I need is to find somebody in the UK who is nearby that has one, so I can get a feel for the weight and the size.

I'm also very outdoorsy and camp a lot (I'm off to Africa to go walk abouts for a while shortly) and I know I can charge a 510 based device with a portable solar panel that has a usb attachement and the cost is such that if I lose or damage a "set up" whilst out and about I'm not going to cry about it, as the cost is minimal, so even if I get a high end mod for day to day usuage I can still see me using an Ego based set up from time to time, coz as sure as eggs is eggs I wouldn't be taking a provari with me on one of my little adventures ;)
 

TaraMc

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Hi there,

I've found I like to use my ego style batteries with a cartomiser for on the go and when I'm at home either cartomiser tanks or a dripping atomiser.

Last thought from me is, you can never have too many backups for your backups :)

Lol yes after hours of agonising last night the conclusion I came to was that I couldn't let go of all my Ego kit, it's too useful and regardless of what device I get next I can see me using it from time to time, especially when you look at the cost of some of these high end VV mods, I would not be scrabbling around in the Mountains with one of those in my pocket ;)

I can see trying to charge some of these devices in a power cut or whilst out camping for any period of time the proverbial aching of the dogs danglies, where as I can charge an Ego batt with a small solar charger with a usb port that alone has me keeping my Ego kit.......sighs......I think I should give up on the one device fits all and admit that I'm going to end up with a collection.
 

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A provari is a really good investment for the long run. I'd would reccomend, if you could, saving up to get a provari, by march, where they will be doing a limited run of the provari with blue LED, instead of the traditional red. Getting that in satin black is pretty much the dream. Plus the is the Provari V2, which deals with the one limitation of the Provari V1. Now, the it pretty much does everything you want it to. I don't use the extension, cap, and I find it fits perfectly in my hand. I also, thought it looked bulky and huge in youtube videos, but now that I have one, it seems pretty perfect...I couldn't imagine owning a smaller mod, or a bigger one...it's just perfect.
 

TaraMc

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Plus the is the Provari V2, which deals with the one limitation of the Provari V1.

Ahhh what is the difference between the V1 and the V2 the site I found that sells them in the UK only seem to have the V1, and I'm the kind of person that is happy to wait for a newer model (currently waiting for the iPad 3 hahahaha!)

See I knew there was a good reason why I didn't click "buy it now" last night :D
 

TonyTT

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The provari has a safety feature, that limits amps. It is there fore the purpose of preventing the user from using anything of low resistence at to high a voltage as to potentially damage the device. With the V1, it works great with single coil, but had a problem registering dual coil low resistence cartomizers at anything above 4.3ish volts. I use dual coil 2.5ohms on my V1, and I can take it all the way up to 6volts, but for some, they want the option of using their 1.5 ohm dual coil at 5.5 volts. The V2, raises the level of the amp limiter to solve for this issue. In the past, it was the only drawback of the provari..
 

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Having a current limiter feature on a mod is a wise move these days. There are various grades of Li-ion batteries out there and you don't want one of them to go into meltdown while it's near your face and hands. From what I read, they only hiss for a second or two before the bang occurs, so it's not likely that you could get through the mental process of realizing something's wrong and make the toss before catastrophic failure.
 

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Well, if you're interested in a rebuildable atty for the Provari, you can order a Zen Pro atty for it and it comes with a built in tank. They will be generally available in April, I think. I've had one on order for awhile and I should get it in the middle of March. Zen also sells a 3.7 device that comes with the rebuildable atty and built in tank. Just do a search for House of Hybrids or Zenesis PV.
 
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