Feeling Out of Control and Lost and Need Some Help
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Yes, I was irritable too... more than usual 
Everything I would say has been said by others. Except, I realized that it was obviously not the nicotine but all the other crap in the smokes that I was quite obviously addicted to, and that just flat ...... me off even more! I used that anger like a power I could wield at the tobacco companies and the government for profiting at my expense making not smoking even more enjoyable.
The nice vape chick at the B&M suggested upping my nic to compensate for the other chems I was no longer getting. Worked for me. Of course buying more stuff always helps my resolve
A little over 8 weeks vaping here.
Everything I would say has been said by others. Except, I realized that it was obviously not the nicotine but all the other crap in the smokes that I was quite obviously addicted to, and that just flat ...... me off even more! I used that anger like a power I could wield at the tobacco companies and the government for profiting at my expense making not smoking even more enjoyable.
The nice vape chick at the B&M suggested upping my nic to compensate for the other chems I was no longer getting. Worked for me. Of course buying more stuff always helps my resolve
A little over 8 weeks vaping here.
You're not alone. It's not as simple as trading cigarettes for vaping. There are a lot of physical and mental stuff going on, it's not the nicotine necisarily but the other chemicals you're missing. It's the smoke, smell, that first smoke from a fresh pack. The identity as a smoker.
Keep on fighting, it isn't easy but you will be happy you did. Once the smoking habit has been tamed you can work on the nicotine addiction, eventually setting yourself free.
Hang in there and good luck.
Keep on fighting, it isn't easy but you will be happy you did. Once the smoking habit has been tamed you can work on the nicotine addiction, eventually setting yourself free.
Hang in there and good luck.
I would go all the way up to 20 nic, or even 24. That'll get you through, and mellow you out. It did me.
Too many people like to get too righteous about their nic levels. I am not here to impress anyone with my low nic levels. I am vaping for satisfaction, and 16 nic just was not cutting it. I went right up to 24 after my first few 16 nic trial bottles just didn't cut the mustard. I'm not down to 20 now to get wooden nickels and pats on the back. 24 was biting my throat too hard. Now, 20 is a bit too much.
Find your level to be civil, and do it as long as you want. If you want to go lower, do it in baby steps. Nicotine is nasty poo.
Too many people like to get too righteous about their nic levels. I am not here to impress anyone with my low nic levels. I am vaping for satisfaction, and 16 nic just was not cutting it. I went right up to 24 after my first few 16 nic trial bottles just didn't cut the mustard. I'm not down to 20 now to get wooden nickels and pats on the back. 24 was biting my throat too hard. Now, 20 is a bit too much.
Find your level to be civil, and do it as long as you want. If you want to go lower, do it in baby steps. Nicotine is nasty poo.
Above in bold sez it all Ash.
Apologies if this is a repeat from what others have said, I did not read the thread.
At a month in a majority of folks go through just what you describe. All a part of quitting smoking.
Honestly though, stick to your guns, keep doing what you've been doing and the cravings will subside.
I'm firmly in the camp that sez go ahead and have a cig. And continue to vape.
Occasional cig will take the edge off the cravings, continued vaping will eventually replace the cigs.
So ya end up having 3 or 4 cigs a day along with vaping. Cool. Another month p'raps you find you're only having one or two cigs a day.
The day will come when you realize you've not had a cig in days and you'll smile.
Whole point bein' be kind to yourself and persevere.
Already rockin' RTA's you're well ahead of the curve as it is.
Quitting cigarette smoking is a major undertaking so rather than stress over it, with the help of vaping just let it happen.
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I think you should keep a special tank with some 24mg in it;
might just keep it at home;
every now and then you take a puff on that.
My first few months I kept a vnano with some 24mg cigar flavored in it at home next to the computer; I might take a puff in the morning with coffee, and puff on it occassionally at night, while my main vape was on mostly 0 nic in larger tanks.
btw; I only buy 24mg pg only now; then I dilute it 4 to 1 with vg; I never vape the 24mg directly but I could if I felt like it
might just keep it at home;
every now and then you take a puff on that.
My first few months I kept a vnano with some 24mg cigar flavored in it at home next to the computer; I might take a puff in the morning with coffee, and puff on it occassionally at night, while my main vape was on mostly 0 nic in larger tanks.
btw; I only buy 24mg pg only now; then I dilute it 4 to 1 with vg; I never vape the 24mg directly but I could if I felt like it
It took me 3 years to quit after I discovered vaping. Each time I went back to cigs I could not figure out why. I mean the juice tastes better, is cheaper and makes me feel much, much better. I am not the coldest beer in the fridge though, so I went through many cycles of this. I still love the smell of a real cig...but that is it. After 3 years of on again off again I finally figured out why I stopped real cigs and had my last, last august. If you fall off, just get back up. It will stick eventually.
I was a heavy smoker for over 40 years, but I have been fortunate to find a satisfying vaping experience with what I think of as 2nd generation vaping kit ie mpv and protanks, minis and gs gear
imho you have fallen victim to believing that as your vaping kit becomes more complex so your vaping enjoyment would increase commensurately, to a point where the preparation in getting a decent vape is just too much bother
I would try dialling it back to a point where you just fill a topper, throw it onto a decent power unit and vape
Just my opinion fwiw
imho you have fallen victim to believing that as your vaping kit becomes more complex so your vaping enjoyment would increase commensurately, to a point where the preparation in getting a decent vape is just too much bother
I would try dialling it back to a point where you just fill a topper, throw it onto a decent power unit and vape
Just my opinion fwiw
I'm with the others. Many people have found, myself included, that they have to step it up a notch to get over that "hump." Either a tank with more nic or more nic period, though you may want to go lower before you go to bed. Also, remember that with vaping the nic gets into your system slower and cause a little frustration especially when you're having a nic fit.
Getting out of the house with a pack of smokes and a lighter was a hell of a lot easier. I have a small kit I leave in my backpack. I don't carry a purse. It has extra batteries, heads, juice, q-tips, paper towels and other stuff in case of emergency. Makes life much easier. Just remember to replace what you use when you get home.
Hang in there, we all know what you are going through, you can get through this.
Getting out of the house with a pack of smokes and a lighter was a hell of a lot easier. I have a small kit I leave in my backpack. I don't carry a purse. It has extra batteries, heads, juice, q-tips, paper towels and other stuff in case of emergency. Makes life much easier. Just remember to replace what you use when you get home.
Hang in there, we all know what you are going through, you can get through this.
About 2 months...that was my frustration point. Everything tasted bad...anxiety...frustration. I did go out on the patio and smoked a couple of cigarettes. Boy were they good, but they did not solve anything...just strengthened my resolve.
I think my problem was too much nic, but the difference between too much and not enough can be a fine line. Plus, I needed to readjust my whole body...cut back on caffeine and sweets, and eat better to get some balance.
Quitting smoking is not for sissies...if it was easy, nobody would smoke. Smoking screws up your body and it took me time to overcome that. One day, one week, one month at a time.
I think my problem was too much nic, but the difference between too much and not enough can be a fine line. Plus, I needed to readjust my whole body...cut back on caffeine and sweets, and eat better to get some balance.
Quitting smoking is not for sissies...if it was easy, nobody would smoke. Smoking screws up your body and it took me time to overcome that. One day, one week, one month at a time.
There is also a lot of self medicating going on when we smoke cigarettes,
you could in fact be suffering from anxiety.
Have you considered visiting your doctor on that score? I had to
This could not be more true. My wife actually quit cigarettes several years ago. I was unable to. Every time I got down to nicotine free I would fly off the handle. Vaping I think has likely saved my marriage...as long as I quit buying more and more equipment(mods, tanks, etc...)...lol
I actually got my wife to start vaping as well. She uses low nicotine flavors and it has helped her sanity. She is more evenly tempered and we enjoy working on our rebuildable tanks together. Although I am the one working and she watches and "corrects" me.
I saw in another response that someone stated to try getting into a routine. I was at about the 3rd month of vaping when I found myself one night with all my tanks, coils, addies, cartomizers, batteries, etc worn out or in need of charging. I just about said "screw it" and went to buy cigarettes. What helped me since then is I rotate my tanks, batteries, etc and use these this day then those the next day. I rebuild that one this night of the week and this one that night of the week. This keeps me from finding myself having a craving but nothing to vape!
A lot of good advice from everyone. I smoked for 42 years and wanted so bad to quit. I considered the e cigs at the convenience store but didn't want to lay out the money blindly. A lady at a flea market was letting people have a free puff or two and that was all it took. It was all I needed. I bought a little starter from her and she TOOK my smokes. That was 3 months ago and I haven't had any problem. I just wanted a cigarette substitute. Not giant clouds of vapor or something that tastes like a candy/fruit/beverage avalanche. Just a good throat hit and a little buzz. Enough said. Up your nic and go back to basics. Good luck.
Everyone goes thru this in the beginning. Even after months of vaping, I caught myself craving one until the day I bought a mech mod and built my own coils. After the experience of hard hitting cloud producing intakes that I get, my cravings tend to float away like the clouds that I exhale. Lol
About 3 to 4 weeks in I started suffering all kinds of side effects. I didn't really crave smoking but my emotions were out of control. Extreme periods of fatigue, sadness and TOOOONS of anxiety, little panic attacks even.. all over nothing. I think the fact that I was experiencing all of this despite not wanting to actually smoke made it even weirder for me. This was NOT normal for me. I'm usually pretty level.
Coming here and talking my experiences out with ECF really helped me get through it. That and just a lot of sleeping... I let myself hibernate for a little bit. Thankfully this only lasted a few weeks, maybe 3, and then I started feeling back to my old self again, maybe even a bit better than usual.
I guess my point is just that quitting smoking has all kinds of emotional/chemical effects and you're not alone in the stuff you're experiencing. I think chances are that you'll be feeling a little better soon if you can power through.
Coming here and talking my experiences out with ECF really helped me get through it. That and just a lot of sleeping... I let myself hibernate for a little bit. Thankfully this only lasted a few weeks, maybe 3, and then I started feeling back to my old self again, maybe even a bit better than usual.
I guess my point is just that quitting smoking has all kinds of emotional/chemical effects and you're not alone in the stuff you're experiencing. I think chances are that you'll be feeling a little better soon if you can power through.
This craving seems to follow the 3 cycle.
Three days
Three weeks
Three months etc...
Know that you are not alone and it will pass. Each time it does lessen a bit more. If you should fall back and light one up, go right back to vaping.
Come here and look for support cuz this is THE best place to get it If I haven't experienced what you are going through, someone will come along that has. I can guarantee that we will be here to read your post and cheerlead you to victory!
Three days
Three weeks
Three months etc...
Know that you are not alone and it will pass. Each time it does lessen a bit more. If you should fall back and light one up, go right back to vaping.
Come here and look for support cuz this is THE best place to get it
If I haven't experienced what you are going through, someone will come along that has. I can guarantee that we will be here to read your post and cheerlead you to victory!
First of all You are Not Alone.
I, and Many Others, went thru Exactly what you are Going thru when we 1st Switched to e-Cigarettes.
The Good News is it Will Pass.
The Bad News it can be a Drag until it Does.
Drink a Lot of Water. Stay Busy and try getting a Little More Physical Exercise. And know that Cigarettes will Kill you Slowly if you Go Back to them.
You'll Get Thru this.
BTW - What are you Cutting Fingers on? A Thread? How about a GENTLY Hitting them with some 400 Sand Paper?
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Hi Ash & welcome to the wonderful world of vaping!
As I read your post I thought back to when I was going thru the same thing but my problem wasn't nic related- I was constantly buying stuff & not fully giving myself the time to enjoy before I was adding more junk to a shopping cart somewhere to buy.
Before I knew it I'd spent close to 3K (in about 3 mos.) with nothing really worthwhile to show for it. I don't know what I was chasing but I felt like I was missing something. Many of the things that were the suggested *must haves* from juice to tanks didn't work for me.
Finding myself a bit underwhelmed I had to sit back & assess my spending- Asking myself what I like & did not like.
Once I slowed down my spending I began to fully enjoy vaping.
Now as far as the savings kicking in-
I spent more in 3 months vaping than I did in a yr smoking cigarettes.
Here's me wishing you the best. You reached out which tells me you'll do just fine!
You aren't on a very high nicotine level. Why not go up to 18mg? I started on 30mg, and vaped non stop, now 18 months later I'm down to 12mg. If you can go an entire 30 days without a cigarette, they won't taste good anymore if you light one up. I smoked 2 packs a day for years, and I still craved the other chemicals in cigs. I've smoked a couple of cigs during this time and the taste is just so terrible to me now that I put them out after 2 drags. A human can quit any habit in 30 days, but it doesn't mean we won't have cravings. Try some good fruit eliquid or dessert- don't vape just tobacco flavors.
You also might be experiencing vapors tongue, but that will pass. If you cave and do smoke, remember that you are doing great, and don't beat yourself up
And, finally, there's a time for simplicity. I always keep a Vision Spinner 2 with a mini Aerotank "locked and loaded". I have MODs, and Clones, and 30 different tanks, but the Aerotank mini is an AWESOME tank, and the Spinner 2 stays charged for days even with heavy vaping. I'll always have one in my vaping gear.
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