Fight for the right to vape (UK) - sign petition

[Charam1996]

There may be already be a forum or post but if you haven't already signed the petition on the UK gov website please do so... 100,000 signs and it will be considered at a debate in parliament Thanks


Petitions - UK Government and Parliament › petitions

Petition: Fight the European Comission on the ridiculous regulations of e-cigarettes

If no links work just type it in on Google


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[evan le'garde]

I have made a post about this before. I said that the NHS would be the best place the government should refer to for information concerning any harm a user may come to. No amount of studies by independent bodies could outweight, or even come close to, the amount of data which could be provided by the NHS (Hospitals and GP's). Anyone who may have suffered any ill effects from vaping would have reported it to their family doctor or in more serious cases their local hospital. If this has ever been the case then i have no doubt we would have heard about it.

What annoys me the most is that the government doesn't use the NHS "by default" to gain data to make an informed decision about the legal status of anything e cig related. You'd think the NHS would be the first and only place the government would look seeing as it is a public service department, something the government is actually in full control of. If there were ever one place the government should be able to refer to for information on the general publics health it's the NHS.

The government probably haven't even considered this.

If Hospitals and doctors surgeries across Europe were to provide data to the European Parlaiment, or if the European Parlaiment were to ask for it then they could legistlate based on that data. In fact every country in the world should have started doing this from day one.

Question is, why hasn't the government done this ?.

And the answer is very simple. It's because polititians are unbelievably stupid people. There they are with a giant, massive government public service department called the NHS and not one of them has considered gathering information from it.

It's the most simple solution to a problem that shouldn't even exists in the first place if it wasn't for lobbyists from big tobacco and big pharma companies whispering in polititians ears all day long.

What is the point of government ?. ...........ANYBODY ?.

And anyone concerned about this enough would read this post and tell other people what they read but instead might respond by trying to tell me it probably wouldn't work. And really it's probably the only line of defence there ever was or ever will be. You might also think that this particular solution would be a contraversial topic of discussion throughout the entire forum and every other e cig forum. As yet i am the only person i know of that has even pointed it out. So from my point of view it does appear that no one cares one bit. Either that or are too embarrassed to admit they never even considered it because the thought never crossed their mind.

Even now, in 2016, the only data the government has ever gathered is from independent studies. And they didn't even have to go looking for it, they were given it and it was organised and funded by big pharma and big tobacco companies. And still the government have completely forgotten they have already got a perfectly good source for this kind of information.

So there it is, a pefectly redundant government too stupid to recognise their own public service departments.

This world's going straight to hell.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Petition the UK Govt!

 

[Charam1996]

I have made a post about this before. I said that the NHS would be the best place the government should refer to for information concerning any harm a user may come to. No amount of studies by independent bodies could outweight, or even come close to, the amount of data which could be provided by the NHS (Hospitals and GP's). Anyone who may have suffered any ill effects from vaping would have reported it to their family doctor or in more serious cases their local hospital. If this has ever been the case then i have no doubt we would have heard about it.

What annoys me the most is that the government doesn't use the NHS "by default" to gain data to make an informed decision about the legal status of anything e cig related. You'd think the NHS would be the first and only place the government would look seeing as it is a public service department, something the government is actually in full control of. If there were ever one place the government should be able to refer to for information on the general publics health it's the NHS.

The government probably haven't even considered this.

If Hospitals and doctors surgeries across Europe were to provide data to the European Parlaiment, or if the European Parlaiment were to ask for it then they could legistlate based on that data. In fact every country in the world should have started doing this from day one.

Question is, why hasn't the government done this ?.

And the answer is very simple. It's because polititians are unbelievably stupid people. There they are with a giant, massive government public service department called the NHS and not one of them has considered gathering information from it.

It's the most simple solution to a problem that shouldn't even exists in the first place if it wasn't for lobbyists from big tobacco and big pharma companies whispering in polititians ears all day long.

What is the point of government ?. ...........ANYBODY ?.

And anyone concerned about this enough would read this post and tell other people what they read but instead might respond by trying to tell me it probably wouldn't work. And really it's probably the only line of defence there ever was or ever will be. You might also think that this particular solution would be a contraversial topic of discussion throughout the entire forum and every other e cig forum. As yet i am the only person i know of that has even pointed it out. So from my point of view it does appear that no one cares one bit. Either that or are too embarrassed to admit they never even considered it because the thought never crossed their mind.

Even now, in 2016, the only data the government has ever gathered is from independent studies. And they didn't even have to go looking for it, they were given it and it was organised and funded by big pharma and big tobacco companies. And still the government have completely forgotten they have already got a perfectly good source for this kind of information.

So there it is, a pefectly redundant government too stupid to recognise their own public service departments.

This world's going straight to hell.

I read that all, do the government make money if e cigs and can they tax it all whatever. What you said it completely true. Has it also got anything to do with not earning money from it?


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[Charam1996]

Also I read about all of there regulations, blah blah, they are trying to make a tank 2ml, but they litres of bleach etc


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[Charam1996]

Guys if you would like to write to your local MP you can use this site just pop in your post code and it finds tor local mp and gives contact details if they have it I managed to get mine.

WriteToThem

I also have to letters you can scrap off or just use your own.


Dear

I'm writing this letter to urge you to find out the truth for yourself. As an elected government official, you should not take things at face value simply because someone tells you to. I do not presume to tell you what to believe about electronic cigarettes. The research supporting this is readily available, but it has been suppressed or overlooked by the sensationalist media who are looking for striking headlines rather than the truth. I am asking you to investigate the existing research and initiate further studies so a proper and informed decision can be made.

I believe electronic cigarettes to be a powerful tool to help people quit smoking where other cessation aids might fail and vaping is a safe hobby for many people. With your help, traditional tobacco products could become an obsolete relic of the past, and diseases like lung cancer could be drastically reduced. I can say with confidence that my life has been changed by vaping, and I hope that it will continue to help others like me. Smokers and their family members are at an even greater risk than anyone could have imagined, as the devices which could save their lives are being restricted or banned.

Thank you for your consideration,

Yours sincerely





Dear

As a citizen I feel compelled to write to you about the troubling situation regarding future legislation of Electronic Cigarettes . There has been much confusion and debate concerning electronic cigarettes, both in the media and in politics. Many so-called "reporters" have created sensationalized reports about research projects concerning electronic cigarettes and their supposed health risks. As an indirect result of this some political powers, including the European Union and numerous state or national governments have begun proposing legislation to restrict or ban the sale of electronic cigarettes without first considering the facts of the case.

I believe that no legislation should be passed without first checking the facts of the situation thoroughly. We have the NHS at hand but it seems as we don't want to use them for facts and studies, I don't know why as the government has full control of them. While many anti-tobacco lobbyists would like to demonize "vaping" (the use of electronic cigarettes) there has been no scientific evidence to suggest that these devices pose any threat whatsoever to public health. They are in fact a much safer alternative to traditional tobacco products such as cigarettes and snuff, because electronic cigarettes do not contain the multitude of carcinogenic substances collectively known as "tar" which is found in tobacco cigarettes.

Electronic cigarettes contain exactly four ingredients: Vegetable Glycerine, Propelyne Glycol, Flavorings, and Nicotine. The first three are all widely known to be safe to the WHO and other health organizations. Nicotine is the only substance contained in electronic cigarette vapor which is debatable in any way, there have been several recent studies which have shown that nicotine does not pose a substantial health risk, and is not as addictive as many believe. These studies have shown that smokers are most likely addicted to the other chemicals in the "tar" of burning tobacco, and that nicotine is merely a drug similar to caffeine.

Electronic cigarettes could prove to be a viable cessation aid for the millions of smokers around the world. By researching the facts about electronic cigarettes and presenting them to the public, our government could save the lives of thousands of people each year who might switch to vaping. Anti-tobacco lobbyists do not want this to happen, because they see anything containing nicotine as inherently harmful.

Hope you take everything I've said into consideration

Yours sincerely



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