Fighten' words

[cataine]

Man, times like this I wish I could still post in the newbie forum!!



That poster has fallen into the anti mentality that nicotine use is a horrible addiction, even absent the smoke. Should we not chew nicotine gum or wear a patch around our kids either? Or not drink alcohol or coffee or eat fatty foods in front of them? Those are "addictive habits" and "flaws," as well.

It's called EDUCATION. Even my 8 year old knows the difference between vaping and smoking - she's after her biological mom to start vaping because of seeing us switch.

Nicotine use (vaping) is a perfectly legal, reasonably safe, adult activity - no more shameful than drinking coffee every day. Other than inhaling nicotine, it's NOTHING like smoking. It doesn't have the health risks to the users and bystanders, nor does it smell bad, create ashes and butts and have the risk of fires. Equating the two is like comparing NASCAR racing to driving to work or school. Should we not enjoy the races because our kids will want to drive fast? (How's that for a good redneck country analogy? lol!)

I'm sorry he/she is ashamed of it, but we have no reason to be. It's attitudes like those that feed into the denormalization and ostracization of nicotine users and only hurts us in the long run.

I'm no more ashamed of my nicotine use than other people are ashamed that they drink 10 energy drinks a day or need anti-depressants to function.

I have to agree with that part!! My girls are EXTREMELY proud of me that I've quit smoking (8 and 10) - I have explained to them that while the e-cigarette is a better alternative for someone that is addicted to smoking, it does still contain the chemical that causes people to 'not be able to quick cigarettes'...I want them to know the truth.

One of my oldest daughters friends asked me if I could tell her mom about e-cigarettes (cause "they smell way better and she's too totally stressed out to quit" )

 

[blueeyekelly]

I just stay way from the new members forum because I can not post there. I think that tread would of gotten to me. LOL

 

[maureengill]

Well put Kristin....cause I'm only ashamed when I don't take my anti-depressants because I'm feeling stubborn. Functioning is a beautiful thing...
Well...maybe this guy was just having a nicotine fit...

I'm no more ashamed of my nicotine use than other people are ashamed that they drink 10 energy drinks a day or need anti-depressants to function.

 

[Devilooman]

OT but Maureen I love your siggy! I so do not miss watching the clock in class to see when I can go smoke! Or watching the clock on my computer at home, lol. Has it been 45 minutes yet?????

 

[whiskey]

I had to check out that thread...I posted, but only once..Idiots with no brains need to be forgiven...I chose to make my comment & walk away...people like that have far more problems living in their own skins than we do...I feel sorry for them, to be miserable all the time & impose themselves on others in this way, is like kickin the side of a bee hive...and standing there..

 

[stover.p]

His screen name is a dead give away

 

[whiskey]

Maybe I just don't get...but why can some post in that forum & others can't

 

[maureengill]

Thanks....it's crazy how smoking analogs was not only a ritual, but a timed one. I don't take breaks at work like i used to, but now wait for my smoking co-worker to come get me. I used to totally be a by the 2 hr clock kind of girl at work.

OT but Maureen I love your siggy! I so do not miss watching the clock in class to see when I can go smoke! Or watching the clock on my computer at home, lol. Has it been 45 minutes yet?????

 

[whiskey]

The thread was closed....

 

[jj2]

Yes it was, OP didn't have the sense to listen to the first warning---was looking for an argument.
Generally, I post in the New Members section to be helpful and say hi and welcome.

 

[whiskey]

Me too...But the mods are great at heading off issues like that..I feel they do a great job(Not kissin up LOL)

 

[kristin]

Maybe I just don't get...but why can some post in that forum & others can't

Yes it was, OP didn't have the sense to listen to the first warning---was looking for an argument.
Generally, I post in the New Members section to be helpful and say hi and welcome.

Whiskey, vendors and suppliers are banned from posting the New Members section. It's to keep vendors from spamming new members for business, but there is already a rule that we can't post about our products anywhere but in the vendors forum, so the not being allowed to post at all there is redundant and unnecessary, IMO. Unfortunately, they are very firm on that rule, because like JJ, I used to try to help newbies all the time, too.

 

[whiskey]

Kristin I didn't think of that rule..now I understand it, I think the rule is because some venders see it as a way to gain new sales..And for that reason all have to abide by it, not just some because it would be a free for all in defense of their buisnesses,One verses the other..I could not imagine what a mess it would be to have to deal with that...Although some members truley do want to help the new folks..It still may be better to have the rule in place.

 

[Devilooman]

SIGH!!!! Now I will not be able to sleep tonight wondering what awful, horrible thing I put in my post that he could be so mean about that they shut the thread down

I didn't think I was rude or said anything untoward about anyone! My natural curiosity now piqued and I'm lookin for a litter box and pokin my nose into all the closed cabinets looking for the thing that might kill the cat.

 

[whiskey]

It probably wasn't your post that made them shut it down...I'm thinking it was the op's from what it looks like..Don't fret!

 

[Nyxie]

Ya the op's post was really rude , the last one I mean. Well most were rude but the last one cut the cake.

 

[kristin]

Kristin I didn't think of that rule..now I understand it, I think the rule is because some venders see it as a way to gain new sales..And for that reason all have to abide by it, not just some because it would be a free for all in defense of their buisnesses,One verses the other..I could not imagine what a mess it would be to have to deal with that...Although some members truley do want to help the new folks..It still may be better to have the rule in place.

Oh, I totally understand why they wouldn't want vendors posting ads in the New Member section. The thing is, there is already a rule that vendors can't post about their products outside of the supplier's forum or they can be banned, so that rule would already keep vendors from advertising in the New Member section. That's why I don't understand why they can't post other types of posts there, since they are already forbidden to post advertising.

Not anything I can do about it though, so I guess it's pointless to discuss. It's just frustrating.

 

[whiskey]

I hear what your saying..I think as long as you keep the posts about helping and not about product that it should be allowed IMO..To me theres nothing at all wrong with that!

 

[stover.p]

Ya the op's post was really rude , the last one I mean. Well most were rude but the last one cut the cake.

And I missed it................I had my hillbilly white trash .... at work......Oh well maybe it was best I didn't see it

 

[whiskey]

Stover u r too funny, Didn't miss much dear!!