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cynicz

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Ok here is the setup I will be buying.

Cig mod - iTaste SVD Variable Voltage/Wattage Starter Kit
Extra tank (RBA) -
batteries 2x - Panasonic High Drain NCR18650PF Hybrid 2900mAh
Battery Charger - Xtar WP2 II Li-Ion Charger

Few questions now ( I know I have asked alot lately :S )
- Will that charger work with those batteries. The batteries said they need a 4.2v Li-Ion Charger.
- Is that a good RBA tank for when in the future I want to eventually go 1Ohm to maybe Slight Sub-Ohm (like .8-ish).
- Any cheaper prices?

Please dont ream my ... haha, I dont plan on rebuilding coils right away, but it is a christmas present and my GF is willing to spend up to 200$, so may as well get everything now.

Is there anything else I should get like rebuildable supplies for future use?

Once again, I have appreciated everyones input so far, this forum is amazing.
 
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Xtar WP2 II - Battery Chargers for $15.96.

MNKE IMR 18650 - Batteries for $11.95.

The charger and batteries are compatible with each other.

:blink: I have to ask why did you choose the MNKE batteries for a regulated mod? You could find an IMR or hybrid battery with a much higher mAh rating than the 1500 mAh of the MNKE. You don't need the higher amp rating of 20 amps that the MNKE has in a regulated mod, either. Be aware that this battery is now discontinued by the manufacturer.

The Panasonic NCR18650PF 2900 mAh high drain hybrid offers more battery capacity for longer use in your mod and has sufficient amps for a rebuildable atomizer down to 0.8 ohms.

Battery Basics for Mods
 
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I order the SVD off of FastTech and was the best price I could find at the time.

I got this charger and I really like it :)

Nitecore IntelliCharger i4 Battery Charger - 2nd Generation $13.60 + $4.99 shipping
Amazon.com: Nitecore IntelliCharger i4 Battery Charger - 2nd Generation: Sports & Outdoors

I use AW 18650 IMR High drained Battery 2000mAh 3.7V and
AW 18490 IMR High drained Battery 1100mAh 3.7

4 for $34.99 vaporizeforless on eBay
vaporizeforless | eBay

But I am sure you can find this stuff cheaper on Cyber Monday.:)
I would wait for Cyber Monday before I would order anything.
 
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cynicz

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Xtar WP2 II - Battery Chargers for $15.96.

MNKE IMR 18650 - Batteries for $11.95.

The charger and batteries are compatible with each other.

I have to ask why did you choose the MNKE batteries for a regulated mod? You could find an IMR or hybrid battery with a much higher mAh rating than the 1500 mAh of the MNKE. You don't need the higher amp rating of 20 amps that the MNKE has in a regulated mod, either. Be aware that this battery is now discontinued by the manufacturer.

The Panasonic NCR18650PF 2900 mAh high drain hybrid offers more battery capacity for longer use in your mod and has sufficient amps for a rebuildable atomizer down to 0.8 ohms.

Battery Basics for Mods

I must say Baditude, I love every damn one of your posts! whats the lowest ohm that panasonic could handle safely ( just curious once again i dont plan on touching sub ohms for a while).


What BA & MC68 said!

Plus, hold off on da Cobra. There's just too many new RBT (not RBAs) and configs being introduced recently to commit to older equipment. Ask fer a gift card! That will allow ya to pick up da latest & greatest when you're ready to do da 'rebuild' thingy.
Haha I may do the giftcard thing, whats the current best RBT/RBA tanks for vapor production and flavor (dont want a drip tank as ill use this traveling)
 

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I must say Baditude, I love every damn one of your posts! whats the lowest ohm that panasonic could handle safely ( just curious once again i dont plan on touching sub ohms for a while).
The Panasonic NCR18650PF has a 10 amp continuous discharge rate limit. Using the Ohm's Law Calculator, if I measure a 0.5 ohm coil and add 4.2 volts to the formula, I come up with 8.4 amps (current); that's safely below the battery's limit. However if it is a 0.4 ohm coil, the same formula shows the draw from the battery will be 10.5 amps, which is over the battery's limit.

Keep in mind as a battery is used hard in a high drain application and ages over time, the battery's specs will naturaly fall below those when new. A battery should only be used at 80% of its capacity, so it's best to allow plenty of safe headroom. I am in compliance with PBusardo when I suggest not using this battery with sub-ohms less than 0.8 ohms.


Whats the current best RBT/RBA tanks for vapor production and flavor (dont want a drip tank as ill use this traveling)
There is no "best" anything subjectively or objectively. Generally speaking, RBA tanks are not the best "traveling" juice attachment, as they all leak if not kept upright.
 
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I order the SVD off of FastTech and was the best price I could find at the time.

I got this charger and I really like it :)

Nitecore IntelliCharger i4 Battery Charger - 2nd Generation $13.60 + $4.99 shipping
Amazon.com: Nitecore IntelliCharger i4 Battery Charger - 2nd Generation: Sports & Outdoors

I use AW 18650 IMR High drained Battery 2000mAh 3.7V and
AW 18490 IMR High drained Battery 1100mAh 3.7

4 for $34.99 vaporizeforless on eBay
vaporizeforless | eBay

But I am sure you can find this stuff cheaper on Cyber Monday.:)
I would wait for Cyber Monday before I would order anything.

I had bad luck with the Nitecore charger. After barely any use (less than 10 hours) it began showing green well before some batteries were fully charged.

Conversely, I've got two of the XTAR ones that Bad referenced, both of which have been going strong for more than 18 months. Both of mine are the 6 bay ones, and I'm now just using those unwanted spacers with them, instead of trying to find something better.

If it ain't broke...

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The Panasonic NCR18650PF has a 10 amp continuous discharge rate limit. Using the Ohm's Law Calculator, if I measure a 0.5 ohm coil and add 4.2 volts to the formula, I come up with 8.4 amps (current); that's safely below the battery's limit. However if it is a 0.4 ohm coil, the same formula shows the draw from the battery will be 10.5 amps, which is over the battery's limit.

Keep in mind as a battery is used hard in a high drain application and ages over time, the battery's specs will naturalyl fall below those when new. A battery should only be used at 80% of its capacity, so it's best to allow plenty of safe headroom. I am in compliance with PBusardo when I suggest not using this battery with sub-ohms less than 0.8 ohms.


There is no "best" anything subjectively or objectively. Generally speaking, RBA tanks are not the best "traveling" juice attachment, as they all leak if not kept upright.
can you rebuild like Iclear 30s and kanger evod? will they maintain great flavor with nice vapor clouds?

Also edited main post changing battery and taking off the extra genesis tank. going to try to find a different non-leakable rebuildable.

Also do I need to buy more coils for my iclear? how long will it last, and do you just change tanks if you cant change coils?
 
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can you rebuild like Iclear 30s and kanger evod? will they maintain great flavor with nice vapor clouds?
I have a few Innokin iClear 30 clearos which I use when I'm lazy and don't feel like setting up a new cartotank. I personally feel they are the best clearomizer on the market (and that's including Protanks). Just don't put volatile flavors like Cinnamon or Citrus Flavors in them because the tanks are polycarbonate. If you use those types of flavors, then the pyrex Protanks are best. Something Safe for Cinnamon & Citrus Flavors

 

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I have a few Innokin iClear 30 clearos which I use when I'm lazy and don't feel like setting up a new cartotank. I personally feel they are the best clearomizer on the market (and that's including Protanks). Just don't put volatile flavors like Cinnamon or Citrus Flavors in them because the tanks are polycarbonate. If you use those types of flavors, then the pyrex Protanks are best. Something Safe for Cinnamon & Citrus Flavors



How long can I expect a Iclear 30 to last? and how do you know when its time to change them? Can I just clean them over and over or will i have to buy new tanks?
 

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I have a few Innokin iClear 30 clearos which I use when I'm lazy and don't feel like setting up a new cartotank. I personally feel they are the best clearomizer on the market (and that's including Protanks). Just don't put volatile flavors like Cinnamon or Citrus Flavors in them because the tanks are polycarbonate. If you use those types of flavors, then the pyrex Protanks are best. <a href="http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3733-6-something-safe-cinnamon-citrus-flavors.html" target="_blank">Something Safe for Cinnamon & Citrus Flavors</a><br>
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<br>How long can I expect a Iclear 30 to last? and how do you know when its time to change them? Can I just clean them over and over or will i have to buy new tanks/heads?
 

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little quick reference guide on buying batteries.......

AW IMR
18650 2000mah 10Amp CDR
18490 (1100mah) 8.8A (16.5A?)
18350 ​(700mah) 6A

Panasonic ​or Orbtronic hybrid
CGR18650CH (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
NCR18650PF (LiNiCOMnO2) INR/ICR/IMR Hybrid 2900mAh 10A
NCR18650PD (LiNiCoAl) 2900mAh 10A

Samsung hybrid (LiNiCoMnP)
INR18650-22P 2200mAh 10A

Sony
us18650v3 IMR 2250mAh 10A

EH IMR
18650 2000 mAh 16A
18500 1100 mAh 8.8A
18350 800 mAh 6.4A

Efest IMR
18650 (IMR/hybrid) 2250mAh 10A
18650 2000mAh 10A (7A tested)
18490 1100mah 8.8A
18350 800mah 6.4A

For sub ohm builds below 0.8 ohm, use only the following batteries:

AW IMR
18650 1600mah 24A

MNKE IMR
18650 1500mah ​20A

Orbtronic
18650 SX22 (hybrid) 2000mAh 22A

Samsung hybrid
INR18650-20R 2000mah 22A

Sanyo hybrid
UR18650EX 2000mAh 20A

Sony
us18650vct3 (hybrid) 1600mAh 30A

EH IMR
18650 2000 mAh 16A
18650 1500 mAh 22A

Efest IMR
18650 1600mAh 30A
 

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<br>How long can I expect a Iclear 30 to last? and how do you know when its time to change them? Can I just clean them over and over or will i have to buy new tanks/heads?
I have 4 that are used in rotation, along with some cartotanks. I went 2 months before needing to change out the coil heads, and cleaned them under running water every week or so prior to that. The video I included previously shows how to clean them and replace the heads. Replacement heads can be purchased wherever you purchase the tanks.

I realized it was time to replace the heads when I was getting too many dry hits and the flavor was muted even after a cleaning.

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