First 24 with Eleaf iStick 50W need advise

[heytiger]

Thank you for having this forum. I tried vaping last wk for the first time.
This post is my first, it's long, I hope to hang out here, " smaller posts" next time.

A wk ago, my bf bought off a friend his first Ecig, he tried it, he has not smoked a cigarette since.
He, himself, a smoker 20 yrs, a pack a day, Newport lights, he is 6 days Tobacco free.
He not one urge to smoke a cigarette, he is not bothered by others smoking.

I tried his Ecig, I instantly knew, this was, this is finally my answer. How I too can quit Cigs.
25 yrs Cowboy lights, I have tried to quit many times, this time, I know I can.

I purchased 2 e-cigs, one is to arrive today. I purchased a Halo Triton online.

Yesterday, I was out of smokes, I chose to go to a local Vape store to check out
what they had in stock, e-cigs, juices, etc. Why should I buy smokes if I can put my money
towards " vaping"

I purchased Eleaf istick 50W with the advised, Kanger Subtank Mini
The owner of the store, he set up my system. When he was showing me how
to work and set the settings, he was " interrupted" by an employee. The employee
had a customer, not one of theirs, -I was no longer his focus, 10 mins to pass, it
was,,,,,, I not impressed, as I had already paid, the other guy didn't buy anything.

He forgot where he was, that he stopped instruction, I not knowing what he
was talking about to begin with. I continued to ask questions, his answers were
over my head. He now speaking Veteran Vape. He lost me as a student and customer.

Me Home, last night, I'd seen these before, can't read em.
The charts for Vape settings, Ohm, Volts, online. I cannot figure them out.

How are the numbers derived from the control numbers of the chart ?
I am trying people there is so much info out there, I keep reading and will continue
to read, if ... someone can please give a nutshell of how to read the charts
it would be much appreciated.

He the Dude who set up my e-cig, as now I can't recall, he said forget the one number,
pay attention to the (which) Number only. Was it the Watt or the Volt? he said set it at 3.8,
which came out to be 11.1 on the flip number.

This was all he said, he said this is a good start. A start to what, go up, down, ?
he didn't say, again his attention being diverted every few mins.

Please forgive me, I am in vaping pre-school, if I sound clueless, I pretty much am.

What is the number range within, please state either W, or V, that would be considered
the base for the 50W Istick. Then which do you pay attn to for cooler and or warmer? the Watt or Volt?

You raise which for cooler/warmer, or you lower which?
I can see that the Eleaf Istick regulates itself, upon you changing either Watt or Volt setting.

I watched YT Video review, Tiavapes, Tia, she to do a review on the very same, 50w Istick with exact same tank.
She shows her setting at 19.3 watt at 3.3 volts, she shows the screen up close.

Then later she says she is Vaping with 19watts, that this was her preferred, even so this
Istick is 50watt. This to confuse me even more.

If the guy said for me to be at 3.8 volts, which was 11.1 watts, my going by what Tia said.
His setting advised for me, ( 50w) this is considered, I am barely vaping? he sold me a 50/50 Juice,
this the only one I have right now.

I am not a dentist, this is probably very simple, it's myself making it complicated.
My Triton to arrive today, this too will come with questions.

Thanks, to all who read my (letter) post. Thanks to all here, who take the time to share valued tips.

Tiger

 

[djsvapour]

Welcome

He probably told you to forget the VOLTS.

Personally, I use the VOLTS as it take less time to go up and down the power of the vape on an iStick.

If Tia is vaping a 19 watts she is NOT in the regular vaping power zone. Sure, lots of people vape 19+ watts, but the average for a newbie is more like 8-10 i.m.o.


If I was plugging a Subtank Mini onto a 50w iStick, I'd set the WATTS to maybe 10-12 for the 1.2 ohm coil.

 

[Kevin H]

On a Kanger SubTank Mini (whether you're using the 1.2 ohm coil, or the .5 ohm coil that came with it), you will definitely need to up your settings on the iStick 50w. I was using mine @ about 30-35 watts when using the 1.2 ohm coil. You will have to decide where the best setting is for you, based on how you vape, how it tastes to you, etc. When I was using a Kanger AeroMega (1.8ohm coil...and a whole different type compared to the SubTank coil heads), I would vape on my iStick at about 11.5 - 12.5 watts. That's what worked for me ON THOSE COILS. I'm sure that more peeps will chime in with other helpful information. Best of luck to ya.

 

[Susan~S]

Hello and welcome to the forum. Glad to have you here!

You have a great setup. The iStick is very easy to use. You can choose to use your iStick in Wattage or Voltage mode. 3 click (using the fire button) switches you between either mode.

I usually run in wattage mode. I would start somewhere around 15 watts and then slowly bump it up until you find a setting that works good for you. If you start to get a "burnt taste" dial it down a notch or two.

I run my Subtank mini (1.2Ω coil) usually between 25-30 watts (flavor dependent).

Here are some links to get you started on the forum.

1. New Members - "How many posts do I need to..."
2. How to do ECF - Avitar / Post Pictures / Signature
3. How to Add Images / Videos
4. Setting and Profile Features

 

[noway]

Sorry, I had to stop at Subtank Mini and a new user.

Who would do that.

When I started I "WISH" someone would have started me on an eGo 4, eGo 4+, iClear 16, Kanger EVOD 2, or even a Mini Subtank 3. Things would have been so much easier.

 

[djsvapour]

PS. Tia must have been using the 0.5 ohm coil.

You'd need 4.7 volts to get the 1.2 ohm coil to 19 watts.

You'll work it out. Start low and work up. I vaped at 10-11 watts for the first year, as that's all the power my old tech mods would offer. (EVIC, SID, MVP v.2)

 

[djsvapour]

I see what you are saying noway.

Maybe it'll work out... as long as the O.P. doesn't go all 50w by the end of week 1.

 

[ImThatGuy]

WELCOME TO ECF!!!

Warmer or cooler is all preference. Some like a warm vape, some like a cool vape. You have to find out for yourself.

When you increase watts or volts, the results are the same; increases warmth and increases vapor production.

He said to be at 3.8volts. That's just a recommendation for you to start with especially using a Subtank Mini. Recommendation because that voltage is like a median; a place where it's in between a warm and a cool vape. It's for you to decide if you want it warmer (increase watts) or a cooler (decrease watts) vape.

The sweet spot for me on the Subtank Mini is usually around 20-25 watts, but everyone is different. You may like it lower than 20, while I obviously like it higher than 20.

Every juice is different. They all excel at certain watts. I say excel because the flavor maybe at it's peak at certain watts settings. You have to play around (increase or decrease) to find a great setting for yourself.

Yes you have an istick that can do 50 watts, but it doesn't mean you have to use 50 watts. That's the beauty of your device, you can adjust to your liking.

And may I ask this, what mg or % is the nicotine in your juice?

 

[noway]

I see what you are saying noway.

Maybe it'll work out... as long as the O.P. doesn't go all 50w by the end of week 1.

Seems these local s't shops are just interested in selling high priced junk and have no regard for getting the user something they can actually use.

 

[Sir2fyablyNutz]

I have the iStick 50W and a Kanger Subtank Mini. I set my iStick to watts (no particular reason), and am using the 1.2 ohm coil. Click the fire button 3 times and it switches to volts or watts, which ever your preference would be. On watts, I am firing my sub tank at 15w using fruit ejuice.. I found 18 was too hot for my preference. What I would suggest is to start low, 10 - 12, take a hit and see how you like it. Once you find the spot you enjoy, lock the iStick to that level.

To lock the iStick to a firing level, simply hold down BOTH arrow buttons at the same time for 3 seconds or so. It should flash "locked" at that point. To unlock it, use the same method.

Good luck in your journey, don't worry about asking questions.

 

[Jwaterski]

Welcome Tiger, everyone above has offered better advise than I could. Just keep reading, you wound up getting way more than the normal starter kit right off the bat. Positive side, didn't waste time and money on upgrades all the time!! Learning curve may be a little steep, but at least you have a regulated battery, safer than some others I've seen on here.

 

[noway]

Welcome Tiger, everyone above has offered better advise than I could. Just keep reading, you wound up getting way more than the normal starter kit right off the bat. Positive side, didn't waste time and money on upgrades all the time!! Learning curve may be a little steep, but at least you have a regulated battery, safer than some others I've seen on here.

The problem with that is you assume everyone goes on to sub-tank's or drip, etc.

If you read the reviews on tanks like CE4, iClear 16, Kanger EVOD, etc there are many more that use those tanks and have no use for anything more or have gone back to those small convenient tanks because they do give you a very good quality vapor. I'm the latter.

 

[Jwaterski]

You are correct noway, not all of us care to sub ohm. I'm also in that group, I only meant that the battery and tank the op purchased is designed to be flexible enough that they should be able to find a satisfactory vape without trying multiple tanks/batteries like many of us did. Also op didn't get sold a mech and a rda right off the bat like some others I have seen. Just has a nice setup with lots of options, can't beat that.

 

[mesamay2003]

The occ coils are easy to burn up if run too hot, even at the upper range of their recommended range...the .5's can be run a little hotter, but with the wrong juice, they will taste burnt too...some are better than others. I would start at about 16-17 watts and gradually turn up until you get something you like

 

[heytiger]

Wow, thanks for all the informative responses.

I so appreciate everyone's input. I will re-read each suggestions. Apply and try.
This to be what it is, trials. I have only the e-cig that my bf bought, to compare with the
Vape of the set up I bought yesterday. He bought his from a guy, it was barely used.

I tried to see the brand on the side of the battery, the logo was warn, me not knowing the brand
names. I think after viewing them online, his is a Vaporfi Rebel II. He had a couple of
days with it, prior to me trying. He had it his settings. I comparing (sort of) between the two,
his and this set up. I liked his more so. I liked how it felt, the pen style, vs the box style.

He more so educated than I on ratios, of flavor, vapor. He is a lucky duck gone fishing for the
weekend, otherwise, he would be able to set my settings, he showing me what is
what. He though not familiar with this Istick. He to know that I like to communicate, research
online, what I learn here (from you all) it benefits him too.

I have no clue what Juice he had, I saw the label, it was a plastic bottle, his friend
created it. He did apply a label with the PG/VG ratio, it was higher PG, 60/40.
It was a berry tart concoction and it was amazing. Full blast flavor, no synthetic taste. 20 nicotine.
It gave me a buzz at first to be honest. This his first bottle, he didn't care. Next time it's 18
as the 20 is too high. The base flavor simply rocked.

Neither of us had one complaint on the vape, the flavor was addictive.

Sorry if I am all over the place. I was able to try countless Juices at the shop yesterday, and
I wasn't impressed. I am novice, I am however not naive. The juices they had to sample were
dirty, they were poorly kept, I could see this onset. The majority of them were either tasteless, stale
some left a " Anbesol" sting reaction. They to pride themselves on the brands they sold.

I was online for hours researching viewing Juices, websites the day before. Only two brands they had did I recognize.
Halo One, the other I cannot recall, both are Tobacco base flavors, which I have no interest in.

I went on the DB for Juice, this where I found the sites of Juice sellers. Reading and comparing reviews.

Out of all the Juices his shop sold, there was only one that I found tolerable, which is what I am using with the Istick.
It's unmarked as far as ratio. I went to their site, they state their juices are 50/50. It's Kismet 12 Nic, that is as
high as he had in stock. it's by The Steam Factory. I bought it by default, as of the 40 or so I tried,
none of them were comparable to the Berry, as far as true enjoyable flavor.

I know too it was that the vape pen they gave me to use prob was a 5.00 unit, that hadn't been cleaned in weeks.
The testers were horribly dirty, gooped up. It was gross trying the juices, people, it truly was.

The owner to say he his shop was #1 within our county, he with pride, he didn't
pass with cleanliness factor this for sure. This my first experience at a Vape shop. Don't worry
I took his store with a grain of salt. I will not use this experience to judge or broad brush, nope.
My not wanting to buy smokes, the primary reason of why I went. I went to buy a set up, to vape
as I walked out. Mission accomplished. I had my last cig at 1:30 yesterday. I vaped yesterday
instead Yay.

I woke up this am, made a cup of Joe. I was instantly " I want a cig" I to have a couple left in my
car. I lit up. People " it was AWFUL" I took two hits off it, and I put it out. I think I miss the
motion of actual smoking, hand to mouth, that it's the gadget that confuses my brain. How
many times last night I went looking for my lighter, that I laughed at myself. I no longer need it.

Back to Juice, I did purchase online, they should be here next week, Juices. I bought them from Anna Mae, out of TN.
I liked the website, that it was a ton of info. I watched reviews on YT of their Juices, so I am giving AM a whirl.
I ordered 5 different flavors at 18 nic.

Anyone to suggest what they enjoy, by brand, I would love to know. I have no desire for the tobacco bases.

Too - if there are brands that are said to be AWESOME, that are fakery, a waste of $ this info too, I would appreciate.
If that is allowed here, I am not asking for anyone to slam a brand. I am tolerating the Juice I did buy, it's not a home run. Not.

My Halo Triton, I ordered Thurs, 2nd day air, it's not going to be here until Monday, Sad Face.
I've the Istick now, I am playing with it. I accept all tips, all info, keep it coming. I am a sponge.

Best of all - I am Cig Free, kiss the ground ! no more Ashtray.

Tiger

 

[noway]

Best of all - I am Cig Free, kiss the ground ! no more Ashtray.

Tiger

That's the main thing.

Flavors will drive you nuts. They cancel each other out if you try to many in a short time, one flavor affects the taste of another such that the same flavor will taste good one day and not the next, or more likely taste like nothing.

I was actually thinking of going with no flavoring at all.

 

[Serialk1llr]

Congratz to saying goodbye to the analogues. Hopefully you're going down a path to where you'll be vaping 0mg nicotine in time. This forum, I have found, is full of a lot of great information. I spend hours sifting the forum threads.

If you're anything like me, you'll be chasing better flavor as your taste buds re-acclimate. I myself started on an iStick 15w and it did me well for a long time. I've since moved on to sub-ohming due to looking for better flavor since my sense of taste and smell is very muted. You may never need to go this route. Before you do, try someone else setup and only then decide if it's 'your thing'.

 

[djsvapour]

I tried to see the brand on the side of the battery, the logo was warn, me not knowing the brand
names. I think after viewing them online, his is a Vaporfi Rebel II. He had a couple of
days with it, prior to me trying. He had it his settings. I comparing (sort of) between the two,
his and this set up. I liked his more so. I liked how it felt, the pen style, vs the box style.

Just so you know. The VaporFi Rebel II ($179.99) is the same as an Innokin SVD. It's a $36 e-cig, bought direct from China.

The internet is awash with reviews for VaporFi and over 100+ fake websites promote their products.

They are one of a few brands involved "rigging" the internet to sell their products for 2 or 3 times the price of other vendors.

It may not be relevant to your situation, but be careful when shopping around.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/uk-forum/664199-best-e-cig-uk.html

 

[jseah]

Wow, thanks for all the informative responses.

I so appreciate everyone's input. I will re-read each suggestions. Apply and try.
This to be what it is, trials. I have only the e-cig that my bf bought, to compare with the
Vape of the set up I bought yesterday. He bought his from a guy, it was barely used.

I tried to see the brand on the side of the battery, the logo was warn, me not knowing the brand
names. I think after viewing them online, his is a Vaporfi Rebel II. He had a couple of
days with it, prior to me trying. He had it his settings. I comparing (sort of) between the two,
his and this set up. I liked his more so. I liked how it felt, the pen style, vs the box style.

He more so educated than I on ratios, of flavor, vapor. He is a lucky duck gone fishing for the
weekend, otherwise, he would be able to set my settings, he showing me what is
what. He though not familiar with this Istick. He to know that I like to communicate, research
online, what I learn here (from you all) it benefits him too.

I have no clue what Juice he had, I saw the label, it was a plastic bottle, his friend
created it. He did apply a label with the PG/VG ratio, it was higher PG, 60/40.
It was a berry tart concoction and it was amazing. Full blast flavor, no synthetic taste. 20 nicotine.
It gave me a buzz at first to be honest. This his first bottle, he didn't care. Next time it's 18
as the 20 is too high. The base flavor simply rocked.

Neither of us had one complaint on the vape, the flavor was addictive.

Sorry if I am all over the place. I was able to try countless Juices at the shop yesterday, and
I wasn't impressed. I am novice, I am however not naive. The juices they had to sample were
dirty, they were poorly kept, I could see this onset. The majority of them were either tasteless, stale
some left a " Anbesol" sting reaction. They to pride themselves on the brands they sold.

I was online for hours researching viewing Juices, websites the day before. Only two brands they had did I recognize.
Halo One, the other I cannot recall, both are Tobacco base flavors, which I have no interest in.

I went on the DB for Juice, this where I found the sites of Juice sellers. Reading and comparing reviews.

Out of all the Juices his shop sold, there was only one that I found tolerable, which is what I am using with the Istick.
It's unmarked as far as ratio. I went to their site, they state their juices are 50/50. It's Kismet 12 Nic, that is as
high as he had in stock. it's by The Steam Factory. I bought it by default, as of the 40 or so I tried,
none of them were comparable to the Berry, as far as true enjoyable flavor.

I know too it was that the vape pen they gave me to use prob was a 5.00 unit, that hadn't been cleaned in weeks.
The testers were horribly dirty, gooped up. It was gross trying the juices, people, it truly was.

The owner to say he his shop was #1 within our county, he with pride, he didn't
pass with cleanliness factor this for sure. This my first experience at a Vape shop. Don't worry
I took his store with a grain of salt. I will not use this experience to judge or broad brush, nope.
My not wanting to buy smokes, the primary reason of why I went. I went to buy a set up, to vape
as I walked out. Mission accomplished. I had my last cig at 1:30 yesterday. I vaped yesterday
instead Yay.

I woke up this am, made a cup of Joe. I was instantly " I want a cig" I to have a couple left in my
car. I lit up. People " it was AWFUL" I took two hits off it, and I put it out. I think I miss the
motion of actual smoking, hand to mouth, that it's the gadget that confuses my brain. How
many times last night I went looking for my lighter, that I laughed at myself. I no longer need it.

Back to Juice, I did purchase online, they should be here next week, Juices. I bought them from Anna Mae, out of TN.
I liked the website, that it was a ton of info. I watched reviews on YT of their Juices, so I am giving AM a whirl.
I ordered 5 different flavors at 18 nic.

Anyone to suggest what they enjoy, by brand, I would love to know. I have no desire for the tobacco bases.

Too - if there are brands that are said to be AWESOME, that are fakery, a waste of $ this info too, I would appreciate.
If that is allowed here, I am not asking for anyone to slam a brand. I am tolerating the Juice I did buy, it's not a home run. Not.

My Halo Triton, I ordered Thurs, 2nd day air, it's not going to be here until Monday, Sad Face.
I've the Istick now, I am playing with it. I accept all tips, all info, keep it coming. I am a sponge.

Best of all - I am Cig Free, kiss the ground ! no more Ashtray.

Tiger

FWIW, when you receive the Halo Triton on Monday, call up Halo and ask to return it. The Halo Triton was the first setup I purchased and once I got the iStick 50, I never used it again. The Subtank does best if you do direct lung hits, if you are doing a more cigarette like inhale of inhaling into your mouth first and then drawing it into your lungs, it might not work well for you. The vapor is also a bit on the warm side. If you find it a bit difficult to get used to, I would suggest trying the Nautilus or the Atlantis. The Atlantis is a subohm tank like the Subtank, but it (in my opinion) is much smoother. Also the most important thing when using a tank for the first time is to make sure you prime the coil well. With the Subtank, drip 2-3 drops directly into the head, and then a drop each into each wicking hole, wait for the juice to soak in, and then a drop each into each wicking hole again. This will make sure that the wick is well saturated and you won't get a dry hit the first time.

 

[Kevin H]

Forgot to say "Congrats" to Heytiger. Probably already been said about the iStick. 3 quick clicks of the "fire" button changes you from watts to volts, and same to go back. Arrow buttons make the wattage/voltage go up and down. FIVE quick clicks will power it down, and 5 more will turn it back on (Shut it off if you put it in your pocket etc.) Since changing from the Kanger AeroMega to a Horizon Arctic subtank (.5ohm coil @ 40watts).....I've also dropped my nicotine down from 18mg to 6mg. The 18mg was WAY too much for me to handle. I've tried ALOT of different juice companies.......I like BackWoods Brew. They've got lots of flavors, as well as tobacco flavors too. I've been using them since I found them on here ( Jan 2011 ). If you have any other questions.....keep em' coming.....There are no bad questions when it comes to starting out on ecigs......and (most of) the answers will only help you with continued success in keeping off the "analogs".