First Day of the Smoking Ban

[Bobnoxious]

Went down to the local watering hole. At noon. And all of the regulars were MIA. Well, the regular smokers. A couple of them showed up a couple hours late, and stayed for maybe an hour. Not good. Those guys (about 6 of them) would show up at 11 AM and drink for 4 or 5 hours. Nowhere to be seen.

Sad. I vaped that place to death for 2 months, but they didn't have any interest. Oh well.

 

[mistinthewoods]

Can't save the world man.
I was thinkin' today. If I owned a bar I'd stock up on 510 disposables and lots of carts with good tobacco juice. Could help to keep some of the smokers in house and buyin' drinks.

 

[Bobnoxious]

Not the old guys. Not the old guys with cash. They're kind of upset.

I'm looking at an actual ban in action. I never believed that it didn't affect business. I'm watching it firsthand.

 

[Bobnoxious]

Ok, now that I'm sober. lol

It was really strange to see all the people standing in the bar parking lot. The ban didn't seem to affect the night crowd. Except for the parking lot scene. It was something you would see if there was a bar fight going on. I've done a fair amount of travel to many states with smoking bans, and I have NEVER encountered something like that. Usually you see a few people, if any, in the outside smoking areas. There had to be a dozen people in the parking lot at all times.

Even worse. I went to a wedding reception last night at a reception hall. There were 2 receptions going on at the same time, and the number of people standing outside was incredible. This one I could almost understand. It was a nice night, and the hall allowed, or simply didn't bother with the idea of everyone bringing their drinks outside.

There was about 3 of us that were vaping at our table at the reception. No one said anything. I'm sure no one even noticed. Although it had a nifty little effect on the disco lights. lol

 

[mistinthewoods]

Interesting. Where is this bar? What city? I used to work in Toledo OH. and they passed a city wide ban a few years ago and most of the bar owners just ignore it. Maybe the raised the price of drinks to cover the fines.

 

[Bobnoxious]

Clinton Township. The bar is owned by a Warren cop, so just ignoring the law isn't going to happen. Besides, I believe the fines are pretty steep.

I used to live in CA, and really didn't go to any bars or restaurants back then. But one time my brother and I decided to go to a local bar after the smoking ban was well under way. In CA, the fine was $100 per offense, so the bar owner decided to just ignore it, and pay the fine if it happened. I guess that was cheap enough to not lose the business.

I don't believe that's possible in MI.

I've gotten a bunch of the staff on 510's, so there were a bunch of blue led's going on a lot last night. lol

 

[mistinthewoods]

lol, that's a start.

 

[Bobnoxious]

Part of my evil plan. It's working.

 

[Bobnoxious]

Well, I'll be. I stand corrected. I found a bar that is ignoring the smoking ban. This is going to get interesting.

 

[mistinthewoods]

Bound to happen. people are in a rebellious mood these days.

 

[Bobnoxious]

Right. And by 'found' I mean, someone told me about it, so I scoped it out. The word will spread. There were only 3 people in that bar, and all had an ashtray. Very Very interesting. I bet this bar gets packed.

 

[pm2006]

It sounds like the bar my me is going to ignore it, too. St Clair County said they don't have the manpower to enforce it. I bought a bunch of 401 kits and 510 disposables to sell at cost but I think I may be stuck with them. Where do you live Bob?

 

[Bobnoxious]

Macomb County. I delivered 20+ 510 kits to bar owners/employees @ cost. Might have been a waste of time. I don't regret it tho.

I heard Oakland county doesn't plan on enforcing it either for the same reasons. This all falls on the health department, and they don't have manpower to police bars.

 

[mistinthewoods]

Both of you are doin' right. There was no "ban when I switched and I know I'm better for it.

 

[Youthful313]

I live in Ann Arbor/Ypsi area and they have become extremely .... about the smoking ban but I have seen a rise in the number of PV smokers though which is cool.