First impressions of IGO-S RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer

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Good post, jumpin' in. Thanks.

Surprisingly, I'm using the IGO-S a lot. It has really grown on me. Even with relatively small cotton wicks, I find I can get quite a few hits off of just a few drops once the wick has been primed. You really need to let the juice soak in with a new wick. It LOOKS saturated when you prime it - but it really hasn't been fully absorbed inside the wick. I leave it for a few minutes and then add a couple more drops. I find the cotton wicks always vape better after vaping on them for a little while. It settles into a good zone. Not only is it a pleasure to be able to switch juices so easily - but even using the same juice I just find it is easier (less fuss) to pull off the tip and drip a few drops versus unscrewing the mpt2, filling it, tightening the head, closing it, getting some juice squeezing out, etc. I use both now, and have another mpt2 clone from FT on the way, but if I'm at home sitting at my desk (which is most of the time), dripping is a way of life! :) What I don't like about the IGO-S has not changed. I'll look around and get another RDA that has a different design and compare the two.

The 30g works - but it definitely fires slower. Just had to get used to waiting another second before drawing. If you test the coils w/o wick (obviously) you can really see how much longer it takes to light up versus the 32g. Make sure the screws stay tight! I'm going to try the 32g again (regular coil).

I agree with what you said re: juices/power. I use mainly tobacco flavors and some of them definitely taste much better at higher wattage. Some of the sweetness of the heavier juices will fade and you get more of the "true taste".

re: wick positioning. I had previously tried the "up and over", but gravity is in play. No matter what, that outside part of the wick is either too small or high/curved/whatever to hold and/or provide sufficient juice to the coils. It would be best to "feed" the coils evenly. Balance. I also find that when any part of the wick is making contact with the posts that you get a cotton or burnt taste. So I tend to use a small (length-wise) wick in order to avoid contact with the posts. I'd rather have to drip more often than get a bad taste. I've seen some builds where the entire deck is filled up with cotton (snaked). Sure, that'll hold tons of juice, but the odds of it burning and/or leaking are greater. Even with my small wicks, I get quite a few hits before having to re-drip. Also, you waste less juice with a smaller wick when switching flavours or changing out for a fresh wick.

re: cotton wick circumference. I hear ya. That's probably the variable that is hardest to get right and to replicate. I have found that it's better to err on the side of a bit too much than a bit too little. Too little will give you a burnt cotton taste. Too much, as you said, and the juice doesn't flow well. But when you put the wick in, while it might seem a bit too thick, once you soak it w/ juice the circumference shrinks quite a bit. So I make it "snug" when I put it in. I gently pull the wick through the coil, from one end to the other, with tweezers. If there is enough resistance to actually PULL the coil in one direction - then it's too tight. If it just comes through the coil without any resistance - too small. It should squeeze through with just a little resistance, but without moving or tugging at the coil. That's the sweet spot. No way could I go back to silica after cotton. The difference in taste is too great. I tried it a couple of times. Blah.

re: the tip. Yes, they are a good match. Very easy to get in and out. I really didn't like the mpt2 tip at first (metallic taste), but it too has grown on me. Either I got used to the metallic taste or now that it has been worked in the metallic taste has diminished.

re: airhole. Yes, mine ends up in the same position. I've never had a leak out the IGO-S. I'm hesitant to drill it because you can't go back. lol. The draw is fine - it's just that I find there's too little air coming in and too much heat - STEAM - being produced. Look inside after vaping. You have bubbles of "condensation".

All in all, the only things I don't like are: 1) the screws being too loose and not making good contact with the wires. I wonder if most of the RDA's make contact the same way. Would be nice to have something like my old Acoustic Research speakers had. Spring-loaded? Just pull it back, stick the wire in, and let it go. No screws. 2) Most importantly, the non-centered posts. Again, I don't know if most of these mini RDA's are designed the same way. I'll have to take a closer look. That's one of the disadvantages of going with a mini. The larger decks, even with one post in the middle and one on the outside, still provide far more room for the wick on the outside.

The mpt2 is a much more difficult build to get "just right". That's due to the design. They are not MADE to be rebuilt. The vertical positioning of the coil - as well as the coil width and thickness - is crucial. I've built quite a few that are "just right", but there's much more going on (physics). I'm getting very good results on that too, so ti's a toss-up. But because it's more of a fuss, I go with the IGO (pardon the pun). Just "drip 'n vape". Lovely.

Fun, fun, fun. ;)
 

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Jumpin': I just built an 10/11 wrap of 28g on a 5/64"! Fantastic. Didn't think I could do it. Check out my coilcalc spreadsheet when you have a chance. With it, I was able to see that if I got enough wraps in, the .28g would fall just at the low end of the acceptable range of ohms for my itaste. It reads 1.6 ohms.

By using 5/64", you can then stick in a fatter cotton wick, which is definitely better.
You can still go for lunch waiting for the thing to fire (lol), but c'est la vie.

You can check out the post here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/548915-help-w-nic-level-being-too-low.html#post12766137
 

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Heh. I'm a bit envious, but I don't see the point of going below 32 gauge unless and until I get a better battery. Are you getting better flavor with lower gauge wire? What battery are you using?

I must be insane. Yesterday, I started looking at the following:

Valkyrie Hybrid Clone by EHPRO - Eciggity
 
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Valkyrie. What a beast! heh. I'm only a very light smoker (when I did smoke - which was the minority of the time), so I can't see getting something like that YET. If I'm still vaping 6 months from now, yeah, I'll definitely spring for a better battery. Also, if I was vaping the equivalent of app. a pack a day, I certainly wouldn't have the middle-of the-road itaste vv/vw that I have. I bought that silly kit for my first purchase. What did I know? I do like the battery though (vv/vw and ohm reader built in), but the kit was a waste of money (the 5 iclear 16's, charger, etc). Live and learn. Having something that has a greater range and also greater width provides far more options with the builds.

Better flavour? No, I wouldn't say that. I think it's burning off more of the VG, so I like it better. But I wouldn't say there is more flavour. Just less VG flavour. If that makes sense? I was having a problem with this last batch of juices I ordered. The low nic (6mg) and high VG combination made it far too smooth w/ too little TH. That's why I built the 28g. Was looking for a way to increase TH and pack more nic punch. Mission accomplished. I find the VG overwhelms the flavour. I'm tasting the same thing in each of the 3 juices I ordered. It's ok in a juice that is supposed to be sweet (cherry cigar). But not in the other two. It MASKS what should be the real flavour. I will order higher PG and slightly higher nic next time (though still pretty low, 9mg).

Overall, I'm very satisfied w/ my rebuilds on teh mpt2 and igo-s. Good stuff. Took a week or so to get used to both. But I still want to get another RDA and/or RBA. The only downside w/ the higher gauge delayed firing is that you need to press the fire button a second before starting to draw. I've gotten used to it. But on the plus side is that the thicker wire is much easier to build a MC with. This was my first 28g build. Now I understand why those videon on utube make it look so easy and the coils are wrapped so neatly. lol. Night and day versus 32g. Then you add a decent "mod" (still don't know why they call it that. To me, a mod, is something you do to hardware or software, but I digress), and then you see why they can vape at such high wattage w/ low resistance microcoils.
 

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Yeah the Valkyrie is a beaut! I’ll sit on that for awhile - maybe until I get bored with the IGO-s. The Valkyrie has a lot going for it - single or double coil, variable air flow control for both builds, 18650 power, lower-volume cap which some say enhances flavor. It could well be sufficiently flexible to satisfy my curiosity on a number of fronts. The downside, of course, is that I couldn’t try out any other RDAs on it. Entry price for me is also kind of high, as I’d have to add on batteries and a good charger - which would probably cost more than the mod itself. There are some functional problems with the clone, but none that seem insurmountable.

I thought about the MVP as a short-term solution, but it seems a little too limited to me. BTW, if you’re not a smoker, I think the MVP is a really good first purchase. However, it would leave the smoker without a back-up and as such would be less than ideal, imo.

Anyway, in the long-term I can see myself ending up with either a Provari or a Reo. Since both of them use IMR batteries, it’s not a bad thing for me to go down that path if I’m looking at another intermediate power supply; at least I’ll have a charger and possibly a couple of batteries if and when the Provari/Reo decision is upon me.

Thanks for the observations re: flavor. I’ve noticed that flavor seems to also change with the drip tip, believe it or not. The hole of the MPT2’s tip is small enough that it seems to change the overall feel of the draw. It seems to me that taste is a bit better with the MPT2’s tip than it is when I use an acrylic, wide-bore tip. YMMV.

Oh. Tried Halo Longhorn tobacco juice in the RDA. Darned if it didn’t taste pretty good. However, when I decided to switch to another flavor I had a heck of a time getting rid of the Longhorn flavor. I ended up washing the atty out in Vodka. I still have to do the same with my acrylic drip tip.

Like you, I’m using the RDA most of the time - probably 70-80% of the time when I’m at home. When I’m out, I take the MPT2s; I don’t want to carry a juice bottle.

Still playing with wick configs. Currently have both wicks on the deck again.

Still having fun.
 
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