First Order thoughts?

[louietheking]

so today I placed my first order from wizard labs and got the following

Propylene Glycol USP - 250ml	PG-250ML	1	$5.49	$5.49
Vegetable Glycerin USP - 250ml	VG-250ML	1	$5.49	$5.49
French Vanilla Deluxe Flavor Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-FRENCH-VANILLA-DELUXE	1	$1.49	$1.49
Marshmallow Flavor Concentrate (LA)	FL-LA-MARSHMALOW	1	$1.49	$1.49
Butterscotch Flavor (TFA)	FL-TFA-BUTRSCH	1	$1.49	$1.49
Brandy Flavor Concentrate (LA)	FL-LA-BRANDY	1	$1.49	$1.49
Cinnamon Roll Flavor Concentrate (LA)	FL-LA-CINNAMON-ROLL	1	$1.49	$1.49
Pineapple Flavor Concentrate (LA)	FL-LA-PINEAPPLE	1	$1.49	$1.49
Smooth Flavor Concentrate (TFA)	FL-TFA-SMOOTH	1	$1.49	$1.49
Caramel Cappuccino TFA Flavor	FL-TFA-CARAMEL-CAPPUCINO	1	$1.49	$1.49
Coconut Candy Flavor (TFA)	FL-TFA-COCONUT-CANDY	1	$1.49	$1.49
10ml LDPE Dropper Bottle with Child Resist Cap	DB-10ML-CRC	5	$0.49	$2.45
1ml Disposable Pipette - Quantity Discounts	DP-1ML	5	$0.14	$0.70
3ml Luer Lock Syringe - Quantity Discounts	S-LL-3ML	2	$0.59	$1.18
16ga Blunt Tip Luer-Lock Needle 1.5" - Quantity Discounts	BTN-16GA	2	$0.65	$1.30
Ethyl Maltol Crystals (TFA)	FL-TFA-ETHYL-M-CRYTLS	1	$1.49	$1.49

I plan on making nicotine free juice for now im not a throat hit yunkie....just wanted to know what you guys think of these flavors and if there's any recipes you guys could recommend or anything else I might need

 

[Wicked & Coiled]

You're gonna need more empty bottles for sure. 10mL is a good size for test-batches. Graduated cylinders or beakers come in handy for mixing and adding to bottles from them.

You're gonna want more pipettes. I use pipettes for the flavorings. One for each, as not to mix them into each other. They come in handy. Either that, or a separate needle/syringe for each flavoring. I order 50 pipettes at a time.

Smaller 30-50mL "mix-bottles", to which to add the separate PG/VG are nice, so you're not handling a 250mL bottle every time you pour. Those EM crystals are tricky for starters, save them until you've made some successful single-flavor juices.

Trial and error. Keep it simple, and use an e-juice calculator. Keep notes on your mixes and how they change over time. Deeper/richer flavorings do take time to steep. Most juices will improve after a couple weeks of steeping. Especially bakery flavors.

DIY E-Liquid Calculator Ten Flavors With Nicotine Plus PG/VG Adjusting

 

[louietheking]

thanks for your help man, i ordered the syringes for the pg and vg and the pipettes for the flavors, i will be ordering more in the future for sure i thought i could always wash them though in the mean time at least for a couple of times, i dont plan on making many flavors at the time which is why i got 10 ml bottles since they're easy to carry and i could have about 5 flavors at a time im not sure why i need the syringe needles since i havent seen anybody on diy videos use them. my plan is to basically use the syringes to fill the 10ml bottles with pg and vg mix needed then add the flavors. I thought the EM crystals were liquid i seen a lot of people saying that I needed it as a sweetener and some people prefer marshmallow which is why i ordered both. you think i'll be okay to start out with that at least according to my plan?

 

[bcollier9253]

thanks for your help man, i ordered the syringes for the pg and vg and the pipettes for the flavors, i will be ordering more in the future for sure i thought i could always wash them though in the mean time at least for a couple of times, i dont plan on making many flavors at the time which is why i got 10 ml bottles since they're easy to carry and i could have about 5 flavors at a time im not sure why i need the syringe needles since i havent seen anybody on diy videos use them. my plan is to basically use the syringes to fill the 10ml bottles with pg and vg mix needed then add the flavors. I thought the EM crystals were liquid i seen a lot of people saying that I needed it as a sweetener and some people prefer marshmallow which is why i ordered both. you think i'll be okay to start out with that at least according to my plan?

Em has slight sweetening properties, it is used more of a flavor "EQ" as in sound EQ.For sweetening you need to get some TFA sweetener. EM has been found by recent test by some of the other veteran mixers to cause flavor muting/loss. Like posted above it needs to be used carefully.

 

[Huckleberried]

I've been pleasantly surprised at the sweetness of the mixes without EM. You could always add a touch later, if necessary.

 

[Wicked & Coiled]

thanks for your help man, i ordered the syringes for the pg and vg and the pipettes for the flavors, i will be ordering more in the future for sure i thought i could always wash them though in the mean time at least for a couple of times, i dont plan on making many flavors at the time which is why i got 10 ml bottles since they're easy to carry and i could have about 5 flavors at a time im not sure why i need the syringe needles since i havent seen anybody on diy videos use them. my plan is to basically use the syringes to fill the 10ml bottles with pg and vg mix needed then add the flavors. I thought the EM crystals were liquid i seen a lot of people saying that I needed it as a sweetener and some people prefer marshmallow which is why i ordered both. you think i'll be okay to start out with that at least according to my plan?

EM does have some sweetness, but ultimately it's really just cotton candy flavoring. It does add balance to fruit juices though. I use Sucralose as a sweetener. About 2-3 drops per 10mL. It comes down to personal tastes on that as well. Some brands of VG have an inherent sweetness in them also.

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