First wave of JuicePaks- The All Natural Line

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Kate

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Wicked have toxic warnings on their packaging and all sorts of information to comply with legislation HSE - Chemicals (hazard information and packaging for supply)

The flavourings haven't been developed to inhale so they are not proven safe for that purpose and shouldn't be sold as such.

The nicotine is toxic and should be presented in appropriate protective packaging.
 

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Wicked have toxic warnings on their packaging and all sorts of information to comply with legislation HSE - Chemicals (hazard information and packaging for supply)

The flavourings haven't been developed to inhale so they are not proven safe for that purpose and shouldn't be sold as such.

The nicotine is toxic and should be presented in appropriate protective packaging.

But we inhale flavorings everyday (lorann, etc) that weren't developed for inhaling. They may not be sold as such but we use them that way.

I realize the nicotine is toxic and that's why I was wondering which current suppliers label it as such.

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We may choose for ourselves to inhale flavourings but it's different selling something for that purpose. There is a duty of care to clients to sell products that are fit for the purpose when money is involved.

The only supplier that I've heard of complying with the law on packaging is Wicked.

Well, we're all (or should be) adults here. I think we can also make the choice to vape Jaaxx's flavorings (or not) just as we do lorann's or anyone else's. We make the choice to vape PG, VG, natural and artificial flavorings, alcohol (and some, colorings and oils). Personally, I don't see Jaaxx's product as any different than that....and if I'm worried about it not being "safe", then I can choose not to vape it. That's my thought on it anyway.

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Absolutely Lu. I'm certainly not trying to harm this business in any way, I was trying to be objective about legal responsibilities. What folk choose to do after they are informed is their business. Making informed decisions is the key though, unless people are given accurate information it's not easy to assess risk.

Well, I hope he's giving accurate information! I mean, TW sells lorann's, right? What is the purpose? To make cake icing? We all know it's to vape. Do any of us really know the possible dangers of vaping even the lorann's? I guess I just don't see Jaaxx's product as any different in that way than any of the other flavorings I've purchased online. So what special description needs to be added?

And the fact the juice is not labeled as "poisonous" or "toxic"....well, you are naming one company that does this...out of how many? (Although I am interested in knowing if there are more). If people want to cite Jaaxx on this, perhaps they should be hitting every supplier forum here with the same concern.

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Actually all suppliers should stop selling untested products for inhaling, especially if they are not packaged properly. They're making a profit from a very risky business.

I hope you are not saying that I've singled Jaaxx out for special bashing treatment. Facts are facts whichever thread they're posted on. The last thing I'd want to do is hurt Jaaxx or Miss Jaaxx but facts won't harm them.
 

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Actually all suppliers should stop selling untested products for inhaling, especially if they are not packaged properly. They're making a profit from a very risky business.

I hope you are not saying that I've singled Jaaxx out for special bashing treatment. Facts are facts whichever thread they're posted on. The last thing I'd want to do is hurt Jaaxx or Miss Jaaxx but facts won't harm them.

No, I'm not implying you are singling out Jaaxx. What I am implying, though, is if people are so concerned about packagings and warnings, perhaps they should tackle the "big dogs" first.

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I haven't seen any other eliquid suppliers with packaging that resembles children's Juicy Juice.

And that makes a difference? The stuff should be put away anyway (if you have little kids around). I don't know if Jaaxx's nic juice actually has that label....or if that's just the flavoring that does. (I wouldn't think the unflavored juice had that label but it's hard to tell from the pic).

But any bottle with nic in it is dangerous and needs to be stored. So what's the difference? You would be more apt to leave one around without that label because maybe the child wouldn't be as interested? Sorry, that just doesn't make sense to me.

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OK guys, enough. I'm every bit as concerned with the safety of our children as anyone else. I do not believe any label or any "childproof" cap is going ensure that my liquid does not make it into the hands of children. They may, however, help make parents more aware and cognizant of the dangers involved.

With this in mind, I am preparing alternative (less Juicy) labels and am sourcing "childproof" packaging. I will make these options available at checkout for a nominal fee.

This will be in addition to the warnings I have already built in to the checkout process on our site and the printed literature which will be included with every order.

I am grateful to everyone for their input.

Jaaxx
 
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