hey guys im trying to start to start to make my own juice i was wondering if you guys ever used the flavor apprentice? aka perfumers apprentice? or if you could be so kind and give me some websites that have good quality products to start out thank you!
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Try Wizard Labs. They have the flavor apprentice at good prices so you can ease into diy. They also take paypal which pretty much made my day yesterday.
Yes, I use "tfa" all the time. I also love Capella's.
There are many others. Loranns....flavorart...the list goes on.
You may want to check out the forums diy juice section for advice on Safe Mixing (important!) and recipes.
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lots of good advice there!
There are many others. Loranns....flavorart...the list goes on.
You may want to check out the forums diy juice section for advice on Safe Mixing (important!) and recipes.
DIY E-Liquid
lots of good advice there!
anyone know of which ones to stay away from that cause carbon build up too fast? or which part of e juice is the main culprit in c auseing build up? example: made 25 ml of 50/50 with 20% Flavor West watermelon and was great. made 25 ml of 50/50, 20% flavor west tropical fruit, now i'm down to the last 5-10 ml of this mix and my brand new ce4's are carboned up in less than .5 ml's vaped. whats going on that i'm missing?
If you are new to DIY eliquid , I believe that while TPA/TFA flavors are probably the least expensive to buy, they also are difficult to get satisfactory results with for a new mixer. Optimal percentages vary greatly within the line. Of course there are hits and misses within every flavoring manufacturer's line of product.
I highly suggest browsing the DIY liquid forum. Search for ECF member Hoosier and read the blogs he has posted. His blogs are a tremendous resource into the thought process and methodology in creating eliquid.
I've dabbled a bit in DIY and I would recommend to a newer DIY'er to start off with either Capella's brand flavorings or (and/or) the super concentrated flavorings offered by Vapingzone or Ecigexpress. The super concentrated flavorings will give you very good results with little tweaking if any, while still allowing you to add other flavors to customize to your hearts content.
This is only my opinion mind you. I'm not knocking TPA/TFA in any way. Do your due diligence of course and make your own decisions. While the super concentrated flavorings may seem a bit more expensive, the fact that satisfactory results can generally be had with 2-3% flavoring or even 1% flavoring for the super concentrated "gourmet" line from VZ, spending a little more for great results up front will be a more efficient use of your dollar in the very short run.Again, just my opinion.
Allow me to say that DIY eliquid tends to be an art. Everyone tastes differently. As it is, there are no hard and fast rules to mixing.
In general, be prepared to spend many hours determining your personal optimal percentage of usage for each flavor you buy from each company and be prepared to find out about the importance of patience. Most liquids take at least few days for the flavoring to diffuse into the base liquid, with some, (certain tobacco flavors) taking a month before they taste good.This is why I recommend the super concentrated flavorings or Capella's brand initially.
Good luck in your mixing endeavors.
I highly suggest browsing the DIY liquid forum. Search for ECF member Hoosier and read the blogs he has posted. His blogs are a tremendous resource into the thought process and methodology in creating eliquid.
I've dabbled a bit in DIY and I would recommend to a newer DIY'er to start off with either Capella's brand flavorings or (and/or) the super concentrated flavorings offered by Vapingzone or Ecigexpress. The super concentrated flavorings will give you very good results with little tweaking if any, while still allowing you to add other flavors to customize to your hearts content.
This is only my opinion mind you. I'm not knocking TPA/TFA in any way. Do your due diligence of course and make your own decisions. While the super concentrated flavorings may seem a bit more expensive, the fact that satisfactory results can generally be had with 2-3% flavoring or even 1% flavoring for the super concentrated "gourmet" line from VZ, spending a little more for great results up front will be a more efficient use of your dollar in the very short run.Again, just my opinion.
Allow me to say that DIY eliquid tends to be an art. Everyone tastes differently. As it is, there are no hard and fast rules to mixing.
In general, be prepared to spend many hours determining your personal optimal percentage of usage for each flavor you buy from each company and be prepared to find out about the importance of patience. Most liquids take at least few days for the flavoring to diffuse into the base liquid, with some, (certain tobacco flavors) taking a month before they taste good.This is why I recommend the super concentrated flavorings or Capella's brand initially.
Good luck in your mixing endeavors.
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That couldnt be said any better. I mixed up a tobacco blend that was spicy/nutty freshly made. I try it each day and the flavors blend together better each day but fresh this stuff will make your sinuses cry. Its getting tastier day by day.
Unfortunately the OP does not have a high enough post count to see the blog section. (Hopefully this heads off a PM on the subject if the poster ever gets up to the level where they can PM but still not see the blogs which has happened a number of times.)
Your suggestions for flavoring are spot on! I use quite a few TPA/TFA and FA flavorings that I would never suggest to a new mixer. Capella's Sweet Tangerine is at the top of my list for flavorings for new mixers because it is so easy to get a good flavor with it.
Capella flavorings definitely for the new mixologists! Most are fine as a standalone flavoring in an eliquid at 10-12%, pretty consistently.
TFA is largely hit and miss (mostly miss).....I find them the cheapest to buy but flavoring percentages vary greatly. I also detect chemical overtones to most of TFA flavorings. I no longer use any.
Flavour Arts and Vaping Zone super concentrates are other good choices. Not much floral, perfumy, chemical overtone with these.
LorAnns grape is good, mostly everything else I have tried from them is fairly weak and requires high percentages to get flavor. "Some" floral perfumy notes in loranns as well.
TFA is largely hit and miss (mostly miss).....I find them the cheapest to buy but flavoring percentages vary greatly. I also detect chemical overtones to most of TFA flavorings. I no longer use any.
Flavour Arts and Vaping Zone super concentrates are other good choices. Not much floral, perfumy, chemical overtone with these.
LorAnns grape is good, mostly everything else I have tried from them is fairly weak and requires high percentages to get flavor. "Some" floral perfumy notes in loranns as well.
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