Flavor factors for a newbie.

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Jay-dub

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I figure there are a few main things that effect flavor: The liquid being used. The product being used to vaporize the liquid. The techinic being used on the product to vaporize the liquid. I have a new Chinese eGo-W and got the kit delivered with a bottle of Marlbo - which is supposed to taste like a certain well known tobacco product. The tast was solid but now I have a vanilla flavor from the same company. Occasionally, I get a musty taste when using the vanilla. Sort of like and old garage with the faint odor of engine oil except instead of smelling it I'm tasting it. I don't get that bad taste so long as I don't draw too hard or too often. Also, the liquid I got was really cheap compared to the suggestions I've seen here so I'm definitely going to have to shop around. Mostly though, I'm curious about how much flavor can be effected by factors and what those factors are. Any ideas?
 

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VG can mask certain flavors. Buying from a vendor, I don't ask for different ratios, because the flavors are tailored to those ratios. Power is the ultimate factor in good liquid tasting right. Certain things are more prominent at lower and higher wattages. The resistance will play a factor to how quick the liquid is heated up. How well the liquid wicks is a HUGE thing overlooked when you find a great flavor. I can't use my unicorn blood till I figure out how to confront the wicking issue with it. The sweeter, thicker, and darker the liquid, the more gunk that is created from ionizing the liquid. The gunk gets in the coil, and it blocks the wick from receiving direct contact, cooking the liquid instead of rapidly heating it uo into a vapor.

Don't go cheap with liquid. I'd be fine with a twist or spinner+carto tank, as long as the liquid is near perfection.
 

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^^This is good advice^^ Also when ordering different liquids try and get the smallest bottles offered and lots of different flavors. If you order a large bottle you will be sure to hate the liquid and be stuck with a huge bottle of yuck. Once you know you like a flavor then order a larger bottle. Also some liquids are great right out of the mail but others take some time to really shine. If you don't like one put it away for a few weeks and then try it again. I have heard of some liquids needing to steep for a month to be at their best flavor. Think about how much better spaghetti tastes on the 2nd day after everything has sat mixed up overnight.
 

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VG can mask certain flavors. Buying from a vendor, I don't ask for different ratios, because the flavors are tailored to those ratios. Power is the ultimate factor in good liquid tasting right. Certain things are more prominent at lower and higher wattages. The resistance will play a factor to how quick the liquid is heated up. How well the liquid wicks is a HUGE thing overlooked when you find a great flavor. I can't use my unicorn blood till I figure out how to confront the wicking issue with it. The sweeter, thicker, and darker the liquid, the more gunk that is created from ionizing the liquid. The gunk gets in the coil, and it blocks the wick from receiving direct contact, cooking the liquid instead of rapidly heating it uo into a vapor.

Don't go cheap with liquid. I'd be fine with a twist or spinner+carto tank, as long as the liquid is near perfection.

Sorry but is a spinner or twist short-hand for a variable voltage battery? And a carto tank would be... well, I don't know what exactly constitutes a carto tank. Maybe this'll help: This is the site and product. It's also where I've gotten my liquid so far. Mainly because it is cheap and I didn't want to spend too much until I'm knowledgeable enough to make a decent decision.

I guess I can't post links here. I got the ego-W starter kit and liquid from e-cig(dotcom). :)
 
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Sorry but is a spinner or twist short-hand for a variable voltage battery? And a carto tank would be... well, I don't know what exactly constitutes a carto tank. Maybe this'll help: This is the site and product. It's also where I've gotten my liquid so far. Mainly because it is cheap and I didn't want to spend too much until I'm knowledgeable enough to make a decent decision.

I guess I can't post links here. I got the ego-W starter kit and liquid from e-cig(dotcom). :)
ego twist and vision spinner are both variable-voltage batteries.

A carto tank is a tank for a cartomizer. (A cartomizer is that piece that looks like a cig filter). The carto goes inside the tank, the tank has e-liquid in it. (and the carto has holes in the sides for the juice to get in). Search around the site for a bit, you'll find info on lots of different heads!
 

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Okay. So, I currently have a carto/clearomizer that holds close to 2mL that I ordered off a site that this forum has blacklisted. LOL! That's a good start. Now I'm concerned as to why... is this site known for not linking to vendors that haven't "bought in" or paid dues to some central authority of ECF?

I was only speculating.

They might not have a good reputation or they might just not be registered here.
 

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Interesting. So, does a producer have to join this site for it to be referenced in links? If so, do you know what criteria a producer has to meet to be referenced from this site or is it purely based on a monetary contribution?

One more thing and it's on topic. With the product I'm using it seems like I have to draw just right to get a perfectly fat, non-musty hit. And it helps if I don't hit it too many times in succession. So, a week in with this product and I'm seeing that technique matters and maybe even changes depending on the flavor of the liquid.
 
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Interesting. So, does a producer have to join this site for it to be referenced in links? If so, do you know what criteria a producer has to meet to be referenced from this site or is it purely based on a monetary contribution?

One more thing and it's on topic. With the product I'm using it seems like I have to draw just right to get a perfectly fat, non-musty hit. And it helps if I don't hit it too many times in succession. So, a week in with this product and I'm seeing that technique matters and maybe even changes depending on the flavor of the liquid.

I don't know how it works for suppliers. I'm pretty new here, too. I'm just basing what I'm saying on what I've absorbed since I've been here.
 

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Wow! I found that technique makes a HUGE difference! Last night, the wife was in bed and I just ended a winning streak on Soul Caliber. I shut of the electronics took a couple night-cap puffs of my eGo-W. Since it was late and so quiet I could hear the device working. Specifically, the e-liquid sizzling on the filament. Listening really helped me figure out when and how hard I should draw. Turns out - you draw really lightly. Just enough to pull a steady stream of vapor off the filament. I've been getting the best tasting, thick vapes since then. Awesome!
 

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Turns out - you draw really lightly. Just enough to pull a steady stream of vapor off the filament. I've been getting the best tasting, thick vapes since then. Awesome!

I learned this the same way, by listening and trying to visualize what was happening in the atomizer, an old engineer's trick. Pulling harder just draws more air, lessening the experience ...
 
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