flavor fade after a month...

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junior28186

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ok, i tought i had great single flavor % with some of my flavor and i made 30ml batches and put em aside for long steep.

now, a couple of my flavors has dropped very significantly in taste... i do this because i want to make big batches and take some when i need too without doing the mixes every week.

is it usually because the initial % was too low or too high?
 

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i used TPA the flavor was

pineapple-at 15% added 1% marshmallow
horchata at 10% added 1% bavarian creme
ry4 type1 at 15% added .5% AP
banana nut bread at 8% plus 1% Brown sugar extra

these were all good at the 2-3 week but after a month they all taste meh

What hardware are you using.

When did you stop smoking.
Have you been drinking water.
What about pg/vg ratio
 

edyle

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im using little bridgeless atty for testing and ssampling, the raatio is 70/30 18mg

stopped smoking for almost a year and yes im taking a sip of water before every sample

Well if you're using the same bridgeless atty all the time, maybe your atty is just all junked up!!

Get yourself a proper rda where you can put in a brand new coil and wick and vape on a fresh wick!!
 

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You could take a couple of ml's of one of your faded mixes and add a few drops of flavor. If that takes care of your problem, it wasn't too much flavor.

Seriously, this place has gone steep crazy. Make your juice and taste it, if it's good vape it. I'm not saying that sometime mixes don't improve a little over time, but it's not like a bad mix magically gets good after steeping. I'm not sure what people are doing to their mixes that makes them unvapable when they make it but magically turns good after elaborate steeping rituals, but I'm just glad I'm not doing it. I shake and vape and I'm more than happy with the results. Good luck!

Cheers,
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Edit. I'll add my mixes are usually good after I make them and if they improve a little tank after tank, I consider it a bonus
 
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There is a possibility that your mixes are slightly over-flavored. If your mix is high VG the odds increase a bit. It might be a matter of a fraction of a % over. I say possibility because it is fairly rare that a TPA flavoring goes from great to reduced flavor in a fraction of a percent.

Can't say for certain. I wouldn't vape a tobacco that is referenced by a number come heck or high water and I've never had any desire to vape Horchata. I hate banana nut bread, the real thing, with a passion that could light a city and I use Pineapple as a spice, not a main course so that percentage seems high to me, but I'm not making it my main in anything so that has my bias showing.
 

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There is a possibility that your mixes are slightly over-flavored. If your mix is high VG the odds increase a bit. It might be a matter of a fraction of a % over. I say possibility because it is fairly rare that a TPA flavoring goes from great to reduced flavor in a fraction of a percent.

Can't say for certain. I wouldn't vape a tobacco that is referenced by a number come heck or high water and I've never had any desire to vape Horchata. I hate banana nut bread, the real thing, with a passion that could light a city and I use Pineapple as a spice, not a main course so that percentage seems high to me, but I'm not making it my main in anything so that has my bias showing.

We agree with Hoosier's "possibility", and would add that in our experience, it's likely more than "slightly" over-flavored...and as you've likely read, over-flavoring definitely can reduce the flavor intensity.

i used TPA the flavor was

pineapple-at 15% added 1% marshmallow -- the strongest we've ever used was 8%, and that would have been way too much/strong if it weren't for the massive percentage of other flavors we used with it.
horchata at 10% added 1% bavarian creme - there's a thread entitled Hornuts in the Recipe subforum regarding Horchata and the general consensus was that over 7-8% was too intense (even with piling on 5-7x as much cream/other). We couldn't tame the Horchata beast until we took it down to 5%.
ry4 type1 at 15% added .5% AP While the recommendations for RY4D go into the double numbers, the ones for Type 1 are typically below 10%.
banana nut bread at 8% plus 1% Brown sugar extra
this doesn't seem like too much to us

It's fairly typical to lose a bit of flavor intensity after a full steeping.

No one has mentioned "additives"...but EM/cotton candy, Sucralose/sweetener, lemon juice & vinegars will ALL lessen intensity. It happens after a few days/more with the last three.
 
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junior28186

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alright sounds good, ty!

pineapple as spice is Genius..... :evil:

horchata at 5% only taste cinnamon and i needed to bump to 10% to get an actual taste of milk or cream whatever its suposed to be

and the 2 other ry4 (i have all 3 from tpa) taste VERY weak Under 15% bumped the original one to 20% already..... with the add shake taste method.before i heard this, i was making samples, wait a week, then add then wait a week.:blush:
 
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