Flavor West vs Wizard Labs?

[jwoode]

wait what?

Is someone saying that Flavor West uses diacetyl in their flavorings?

I get their cinnamon and cinnamon hot tamale all the time.. it makes the best cinnamon fireball I have had.. there is diacetyl in those?

 

[RocketPuppy]

wait what?

Is someone saying that Flavor West uses diacetyl in their flavorings?

I get their cinnamon and cinnamon hot tamale all the time.. it makes the best cinnamon fireball I have had.. there is diacetyl in those?

 

[jwoode]

this is very depressing

 

[HeadInClouds]

RocketPuppy, I can't find a warning screen like that on ecigexpress (today being 5/2/14). How'd you do that?

 

[RocketPuppy]

Just googled it.

 

[RocketPuppy]

When I post the link, it just goes to a new google search.

 

[beckdg]

In response to OP, I personally do not recommend FW. While prices are lower, there are a ton of better companies out there. I made a list: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...162-diy-flavor-flavour-suppliers-vendors.html

just a heads up. flavorwest is in your list.

 

[beckdg]

i searched without diacetyl in the search terms and came up with nothing.

then i searched "cinnamon by flavor west ecigexpress diacetyl" and there it was quoted under the link on the google search page just like your pic.

though, it's not listed anywhere visible on the ecigexpress page.
though, it is still in the source code...

.flavorwest-express-trivia-pronunciation {color:#0a0a0a; font-size:28px; font-weight:normal; width:100%; }
.diacetyl-warning {width:50%; min-width:590px; max-width:590px; border:#900 2px solid; border-radius:3px; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; height:61px; margin-bottom:60px; margin-top:-123px;}
.diacetyl-warning-label {width:75px; height:61px; background: url(/images/warning.jpg) no-repeat #900; background-position:center; float:left; }
.diacetyl-warning-message {float:left; vertical-align:middle !important; height:61px; padding:6px; font-size:13px; width:500px; color:#900;}
.diacetyl-warning-important {font-size:21px;} </style><div class="flavorwest-info"><h2 class="flavorwest-h2">About This DIY e-Liquid Flavoring</h2><div class="flavorwest-description"><p> Fragrant, warm and sweet, Cinnamon is the perfect winter spice. Cinnamon tastes great vaped on its own, or combined with nearly anything its unique aroma complements. We recommend dessert, cream, chocolate, coffee, tobacco, or liquor flavors as additives to this versatile flavor.</p></div><div class="flavorwest-express-trivia"><div class="flavorwest-express-trivia-wrapper"><div

...SNIP...

FW-CINNAMON</div><div class="flavorwest-tech-detail">Ingredients:   Contains propylene glycol and artificial flavor. <br /> <span class="flavorwest-important-detail"> This flavor contains Diacetyl and/or related diketones. <br />Not suitable for vaping.</span></div><div class="flavorwest-tech-detail-last">Made in the USA</div></div></div><div class="flavorwest-youmaylike-wrapper"><div class="flavorwest-youmaylike">You may also like:

this page here... Cinnamon by Flavor West - ecigExpress
source code here... view-source: htt p://ww w.ecigexpress.com/flavors/flavor-west/cinnamon-by-flavor-west.html

 

[RocketPuppy]

just a heads up. flavorwest is in your list.

=) just a list, but I did include the disclaimer.

 

[RocketPuppy]

just a heads up. flavorwest is in your list.

I was going to knock a few vendors, but I didn't want to create a fight, so I just included everyone I could think of.

 

[Mowgli]

Another question, a local B&M has a cake batter flavor that they say is vanilla and caramel mixed. Flavor West has a "yellow cake" flavor. Is that a one-and-done type flavor?

I like cake (yellow) as is. It gets gunky after 6 months or so but it's primo while it's good.

I lucked out with my DIY. I nailed it first try @ 12.5% 70/30 18mg
I tried other % but almost all 80+ of my FW/MBV work best right there.
I recently spoke with Jason @ FW.
He confirmed that they design all their flavors to work at the same mixing %

I vape FW/MBV almost exclusively.
Add Grandmaster, HBV Belgian Waffle, Jerry Juice & a lil RY1 and I'm all set.

 

[Mowgli]

I quit using FW for Butterscotch BTW.

I have an order coming from http://www.mbvwholesale.com/ for

8oz Butterscotch flavoring
8oz Coconut Cream Pie flavoring
16oz Hawk Sauce flavoring

MBV quit FW for Butterscotch last Oct because they got a more reliable supplier (additional)
They still use FW for some things. Probably fruits/berries

 

[beckdg]

I was going to knock a few vendors, but I didn't want to create a fight, so I just included everyone I could think of.

gotcha.

i was thinking the list was of vendors you approve of. silly me.

 

[Pete54]

I recently started using FW Vanilla Custard in a few recipes. After about a month I started experiencing a shortness of breath that was so bad I actually went to have lung x-rays. All they could tell me is that it looked like the upper area of my lungs were irritated and had a fibrous look to them. I stopped vaping for a couple of days and my condition improved. When I started vaping again it happened all over! After trial and error over the next month, which included re-irritating my lungs like an idiot, I finally narrowed it down to this flavor! I have stopped using anything made by FW and all symptoms have gone away. I am 100% sure my problems came from the Vanilla Custard.

 

[Jimi D.]

I recently started using FW Vanilla Custard in a few recipes. After about a month I started experiencing a shortness of breath that was so bad I actually went to have lung x-rays. All they could tell me is that it looked like the upper area of my lungs were irritated and had a fibrous look to them. I stopped vaping for a couple of days and my condition improved. When I started vaping again it happened all over! After trial and error over the next month, which included re-irritating my lungs like an idiot, I finally narrowed it down to this flavor! I have stopped using anything made by FW and all symptoms have gone away. I am 100% sure my problems came from the Vanilla Custard.

Whoa ! That's terrible Pete ! I'm glad you narrowed it down. Yeah man, I stay away from custards. I also use flavors from Poland which are designed for vaping, not for flavoring food.

 

[RocketPuppy]

Whoa ! That's terrible Pete ! I'm glad you narrowed it down. Yeah man, I stay away from custards. I also use flavors from Poland which are designed for vaping, not for flavoring food.

Inawera is pretty awesome. Jimi - is the nic from Vaperstek worth the price? I read your reviews on nic comparisons, but it's pretty costly.

 

[Jimi D.]

Inawera is pretty awesome. Jimi - is the nic from Vaperstek worth the price? I read your reviews on nic comparisons, but it's pretty costly.

It's definitely worth the price. Compared to Xtreme nicotine (which is also UK sourced) it's a steal. Vapers Tek I believe is having a sale on 120 ml bottles this weekend

 

[RocketPuppy]

Applause to Pete. Have your lungs cleared up completely?

 

[Pete54]

Applause to Pete. Have your lungs cleared up completely?

They have. I'm a bit freaked out by the whole episode. I've been vaping now for four and a half years, and been DIYing for over two and never had the slightest issues. I just mixed up an idea I have. Lite Flavor Juice! Just VG, PG, Nic and about 2% FA Lemon Sicily. Kind of like putting a slice of lemon in a glass of water! I'll see if I can deal with less flavor for the sake of safety.

 

[RocketPuppy]

They have. I'm a bit freaked out by the whole episode. I've been vaping now for four and a half years, and been DIYing for over two and never had the slightest issues. I just mixed up an idea I have. Lite Flavor Juice! Just VG, PG, Nic and about 2% FA Lemon Sicily. Kind of like putting a slice of lemon in a glass of water! I'll see if I can deal with less flavor for the sake of safety.

Thrilled you're better!!! Have you ever tried cucumber water (not ejuice)? It sounds weird, but it's very refreshing.