Flavors vs. atomizer resistance - does it matter?

[mayamason]

Short version - it there a rhyme or reason to using different resistance atomizers for different flavors?

Slightly longer version - For example, the vivi nova kit usually comes with replaceable heads in 3 different resistances: 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8. Up until now, I only have 1.8ohm heads (mainly because at the time I bought them, I only had non-VV batteries). I do understand that higher resistance + higher voltage = less amps, so your battery will last longer. But, disregarding the battery for a second and assuming one has VV at their disposal, is there a reason to switch out an atomizer for one of a different resistance based on the flavor of juice you plan to use? Like "fruits taste better here, but tobacco flavors taste better here."

I used the vivi nova as my example above, but I'm curious about flavor vs. ohms regardless of the type of atomizer. I'm about to order a couple of dripping atomizers and a few more nova replacement heads, and I'm curious if I should try something other higher than the 1.8/2.0ohm range.

 

[Caridwen]

I should probably move this for you so you'll get more responses.

I can't speak for vivi nova's, but I have some lighter flavors do taste best either with higher resistance cartos/tanks or at lower voltage. They pretty much end up with no taste.

 

[akatina]

From what I understand, adjusting the volts or the ohms are both equally effective ways to alter the wattage at which you vape. Wattage is what really affects the way a juice tastes.

Lower ohms allows someone to get the higher wattage vape that someone with a vv device gets at higher volts and normal ohms.

With that in mind, some juices taste better at higher watts and others at lower watts. If you have a juice that does better at low watts you can either increase the ohms of your head or decrease the volts of your battery.

DISCLAIMER: not an expert, not an engineer, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

 

[mayamason]

With that in mind, some juices taste better at higher watts and others at lower watts. If you have a juice that does better at low watts you can either increase the ohms of your head or decrease the volts of your battery.

DISCLAIMER: not an expert, not an engineer, but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.

I typically like vaping around 7-8 watts. I've just noticed that some juices need to be higher or lower to actually taste all the flavors (or in the case of chocolate ones - to not have a nasty-foot-smell kind of taste). I just can't seem to find a correlation between the type of flavor and where it should be. And yes, I probably should have titled the post "Flavor vs. Wattage" or some sort like that.

And I actually am an engineer (not electrical tho!), but....some of this vaping stuff still has my head spinning.

I should probably move this for you so you'll get more responses. I can't speak for vivi nova's, but I have some lighter flavors do taste best either with higher resistance cartos/tanks or at lower voltage. They pretty much end up with no taste.

Please do, if you think it will help!

I have noticed that on one particular juice I use, the fruit comes out more at lower voltages, and the menthol comes out more at higher ones. Is that typical, fruit seems to get lost at higher volts (wattages)?

 

[gthompson]

If you have VV, it doesn't matter. If you don't have VV, it matters.

 

[akatina]

I have noticed that on one particular juice I use, the fruit comes out more at lower voltages, and the menthol comes out more at higher ones. Is that typical, fruit seems to get lost at higher volts (wattages)?

Based on my tiny experience, yes. I have coconut and pineapple and they get lost at higher wattages. I've got a low end vv and I have a couple of different resistance levels dripping attys for my fixed volt pvs, and this replicates on all of them.

I find that anything I would describe as "rich" does better at higher wattage. Tobacco, baked goods, butterscotch. Anything I would describe as "light" or "clean" seems to fare better at lower watts. Mints IMO taste better at lower watts but provide more th at higher watts, but that might just be my wonky perspective and/or experience.

 

[Todd the E juice fanatic]

Short version - it there a rhyme or reason to using different resistance atomizers for different flavors?

Slightly longer version - For example, the vivi nova kit usually comes with replaceable heads in 3 different resistances: 1.8, 2.4, and 2.8. Up until now, I only have 1.8ohm heads (mainly because at the time I bought them, I only had non-VV batteries). I do understand that higher resistance + higher voltage = less amps, so your battery will last longer. But, disregarding the battery for a second and assuming one has VV at their disposal, is there a reason to switch out an atomizer for one of a different resistance based on the flavor of juice you plan to use? Like "fruits taste better here, but tobacco flavors taste better here."

I used the vivi nova as my example above, but I'm curious about flavor vs. ohms regardless of the type of atomizer. I'm about to order a couple of dripping atomizers and a few more nova replacement heads, and I'm curious if I should try something other higher than the 1.8/2.0ohm range.

Thanks for bringing this up !!...I was wondering the exact same things...I have 2 eGo twists on the way along with 4 Vision 3 mini vivi novas...3 @ 2.8 and 1 @ 1.8..I am learnng on the go...I've been running off a standard Joye eGo T type battery and have absolutely no idea the voltage on it...I know the tank/atomizer is 2.2 ohms..I am definately not getting the most out of my juices vaping this way!!..

 

[EddardinWinter]

Todd-

You want a lower ohm resistor with the standard eGo. You should bite the bullet and get you a twist. It is a cheap upgrade, and you will not believe the difference!

 

[MaxUT]

Flavor vs Resistance

The best for flavor IMO have been high resistance atomizers, such as a 3.5 ohm 801 and a 3.5 ohm 901, old school stuff.

I think it's due to having more wraps in the coil, which distributes the heat more evenly, preventing spots that are too hot.

(I'm not exactly an engineer, but I play one at work)

 

[Todd the E juice fanatic]

Todd-

You want a lower ohm resistor with the standard eGo. You should bite the bullet and get you a twist. It is a cheap upgrade, and you will not believe the difference!

I have 2 twists on the way....with 4 Vision 3 mini vivi novas...3 @ 2.8 and 1 @ 1.8....with 2 base threads...$95....Total...

 

[EddardinWinter]

Flavor vs Resistance

The best for flavor IMO have been high resistance atomizers, such as a 3.5 ohm 801 and a 3.5 ohm 901, old school stuff.

I think it's due to having more wraps in the coil, which distributes the heat more evenly, preventing spots that are too hot.

(I'm not exactly an engineer, but I play one at work)

While I agree with what you are saying for a VV application, if I read what todd was saying he wanted increased vapor production with his standard non-vv eGo. The only thing you can do there is drop your resistance.

Todd, you will want something at least 2.5 with your twist like MaxUT says, cause you can adjust your voltage for vapor production.

 

[EddardinWinter]

I have 2 twists on the way....with 4 Vision 3 mini vivi novas...3 @ 2.8 and 1 @ 1.8....with 2 base threads...$95....Total...

Good choices. You will want more coils once you see what you like. Do the vivi have replaceable coils?

(I actually am an Energy Engineer and a Test and Balance Engineer, but do not have a PE license, so the PEs all tell me I am not a "real Engineer". I tell them to shut the up before I kick your !)

 

[Todd the E juice fanatic]

Good choices. You will want more coils once you see what you like. Do the vivi have replaceable coils?

(I actually am an Energy Engineer and a Test and Balance Engineer, but do not have a PE license, so the PEs all tell me I am not a "real Engineer". I tell them to shut the up before I kick your !)

Each one comes with 2 extra coils...

 

[MaxUT]

I [...] do not have a PE license, so the PEs all tell me I am not a "real Engineer".

Machine Tool Tech here, and the PEs better be nice to me if they want their special tooling designed!

 

[mayamason]

The best for flavor IMO have been high resistance atomizers, such as a 3.5 ohm 801 and a 3.5 ohm 901, old school stuff.

I think it's due to having more wraps in the coil, which distributes the heat more evenly, preventing spots that are too hot.

This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. So, assuming you have the battery to support it, the higher (ohms) you can go, the better? I know that's true in general for the life of the battery, but I'm trying to leave that part out of it and just look at the quality & consistency of the flavor produced.

(I actually am an Energy Engineer and a Test and Balance Engineer, but do not have a PE license, so the PEs all tell me I am not a "real Engineer". I tell them to shut the up before I kick your !)

Machine Tool Tech here, and the PEs better be nice to me if they want their special tooling designed!

See? Y'all can back me up on this. I'm an engineer. My brother's an engineer. My dad's an engineer. My mom's a high school calc/trig teacher, and my sister is an accountant. It is second nature to try and quantify all this vaping information!

Now I just went & ordered my first RBA = more stuff to measure. Based on my comment above, for the best flavor (regardless of what that flavor happens to be), I should shoot for the high end (ohms) of what my VV battery can support at 7-8 Watts? Is this right?

No PE here either, I'm a Project Engineer and don't work in my BS field (mechanical).

 

[thxone]

Coming from the car audio field... More resistance causes more heat at the point of highest resistance so if you apply more power to higher resistance then you should get more heat. I am guessing more, warmer vapor. I think this would not last as long as lower resistance lower volts.

 

[mayamason]

Coming from the car audio field... More resistance causes more heat at the point of highest resistance so if you apply more power to higher resistance then you should get more heat. I am guessing more, warmer vapor. I think this would not last as long as lower resistance lower volts.

But.... if I'm applying the same power (Watts) by changing the voltage to match the atomizer, does it still put out more heat? Or do you mean "more heat" as in, there's more surface area being heated?

BTW - I'm right around the corner from you, in the tiny little town where the Speedway is actually located.

 

[thxone]

But.... if I'm applying the same power (Watts) by changing the voltage to match the atomizer, does it still put out more heat? Or do you mean "more heat" as in, there's more surface area being heated?

BTW - I'm right around the corner from you, in the tiny little town where the Speedway is actually located.

More heat... and are you in Harrisburg or Concord?

 

[MaxUT]

But.... if I'm applying the same power (Watts) by changing the voltage to match the atomizer, does it still put out more heat? Or do you mean "more heat" as in, there's more surface area being heated?

Same watts, same work. Same total heat.
Higher resistance should allow you to pump more voltage into the coil to get more total heat without over-temping the juice, to produce more vapor while protecting the flavor. The difference might be small but it should exist.

I've convinced me. Next trip to the vape shop, I'm getting 3.0 ohms Boges.

 

[amyc75]

I'm so glad you posted this question, as I am neither an engineer nor do I play one on TV...though being a nurse may technically qualify me as a "people engineer"... I'm just learning as I go with the VV. I have a couple of lower resistance clearos and I find right now that I prefer the higher resistance ones...my mileage will probably vary in the future. It's all experimental for me at this point!