Flavors vs Tobacco vs Nic Questions

[PurKat]

Does the e-liquid Flavor already have the ‘tobacco’ and ‘nicotine’ in it, or do you have to mix the e-liquid Flavor with the Tobacco e-Liquid?

Thanks!

 

[TheKingOfKool]

depends on where you get the liquid. theres DIY (Do It Yourself) places that sell do it yourself liquids which give you the PG formula and you add your own flavors. most places sell the liquid with the nicotine and flavors added though. you can usually tell by the option to chose the nicotine strength. it should say 14mg, 18mg, 24mg, or 36 mg.

 

[lordmage]

unless what you ordered states other wise it is a good bet to assume the nic is already mixed in. unless from the DIY suppliers like Juicy

moving out of newbie section

 

[PurKat]

depends on where you get the liquid. theres DIY (Do It Yourself) places that sell do it yourself liquids which give you the PG formula and you add your own flavors. most places sell the liquid with the nicotine and flavors added though. you can usually tell by the option to chose the nicotine strength. it should say 14mg, 18mg, 24mg, or 36 mg.

Thank you for the information! Do they have anything less than 14mg? A real cig only has like 2 mg.

Happy Vaporing!

 

[PurKat]

unless what you ordered states other wise it is a good bet to assume the nic is already mixed in. unless from the DIY suppliers like Juicy

moving out of newbie section

Yes, I read somewhere even the ones who say zero nic, still have some nic in them.

Thanks!

 

[ProfessorDaffy]

Thank you for the information! Do they have anything less than 14mg? A real cig only has like 2 mg.

Happy Vaporing!

The mg is what the liquid contains not what you get. The 2mg or what ever that is listed on a cigarette is what you inhale. The same is true for e-cigs. Here's the way I learned. 18mg = regular, 12mg = Light, 6mg = Ultra Light, and 0mg = Zero.

If you smoke just a regular cigarette, start with 18mg. If it's too high you can cut it with 1/3 glycerin to get you down the the 12mg range. That's what I do to be cost effective and because I smoked light cigarettes. And it depends on the e-cig. One that produces a lot of vapor like the JOYE510 also delivers a lot of nicotine. On other models I had to vape more liquid, but the 510 satisfies me at that nicotine level.

Keep in mind, this is a generalization, but a good starting point. In the end nobody really vapes the same way the used to smoke. You'll have to fine tune your own experience.

--Prof Daffy

 

[PurKat]

The mg is what the liquid contains not what you get. The 2mg or what ever that is listed on a cigarette is what you inhale. The same is true for e-cigs. Here's the way I learned. 18mg = regular, 12mg = Light, 6mg = Ultra Light, and 0mg = Zero.

If you smoke just a regular cigarette, start with 18mg. If it's too high you can cut it with 1/3 glycerin to get you down the the 12mg range. That's what I do to be cost effective and because I smoked light cigarettes. And it depends on the e-cig. One that produces a lot of vapor like the JOYE510 also delivers a lot of nicotine. On other models I had to vape more liquid, but the 510 satisfies me at that nicotine level.

Keep in mind, this is a generalization, but a good starting point. In the end nobody really vapes the same way the used to smoke. You'll have to fine tune your own experience.

--Prof Daffy

Thank you for this bit of information! How did the these figures (18mg = regular, 12mg = Light, 6mg = Ultra Light, and 0mg = Zero) come about? Did someone use some sort of mathematical calculations, or what? Yes, I have read many post, that stated they did not believe they were getting the full mg of what they were vaporizing.

I am still trying to decided between the KR808 Vapor King, and the DSE-901. I will probably end up getting both, just to have a back-up. Plus I would like to try both of them. I just need to finish gathering some facts, before I order, so I can order accordingly, then have ALL of it, come at once.

Thanks again for you wonderful help and information!

Happy Vaporing!

 

[jigtg]

And I read that womens average breasts cup size has increased from 34B to 36C in last two decades because of hormones being pumped to animals to make them grow faster. I also read that making vanilla from cow dung is much cheaper than extracting from it vanilla beans.

dse901 atomizers can be used with kr808d batteries and dse901 batteries can be charged with kr808d charger. So there is really no point in buying a dse901 kit

 

[PurKat]

And I read that womens average breasts cup size has increased from 34B to 36C in last two decades because of hormones being pumped to animals to make them grow faster. I also read that making vanilla from cow dung is much cheaper than extracting from it vanilla beans.

dse901 atomizers can be used with kr808d batteries and dse901 batteries can be charged with kr808d charger. So there is really no point in buying a dse901 kit

[FONT="][/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][B]Dear [URL="http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/members/jigtg.html"]jigtg[/URL],[/B]
I find your reply inappropriate and very embarrassing, when you bring up women’s bra sizes, and cow dung, on a e-cig question!! Please refrain from posting comments like that, on ANY of my, or other posters, future questions or comments!

 

[jigtg]

Dear jigtg,
I find your reply inappropriate and very embarrassing, when you bring up women’s bra sizes, and cow dung, on a e-cig question!! Please refrain from posting comments like that, on ANY of my, or other posters, future questions or comments!

I was simply trying to prove a point...
Japanese Researchers Extract Vanilla From Cow Dung
Foods Make Breasts Grow?

 

[marudedame]

Yeah Jigtg, but if you just say it out of nowhere liket that, some people think that is inappropreate, you know... if that was the question of the thread, then yeah you proved the point. If you read the PureKat's question, he/she didn't asked anything about what you said, not even close. Some people are senstitive to that kind of topics. Free speach is important, but you have to consider what others think as well in ordere to make this forum good place to discus things. I am not trying to make you mad or anything tho, since it was kinda interesting to know to me. I am a Japanese and never heard of that!! ^0^

 

[PurKat]

Yeah Jigtg, but if you just say it out of nowhere liket that, some people think that is inappropreate, you know... if that was the question of the thread, then yeah you proved the point. If you read the PureKat's question, he/she didn't asked anything about what you said, not even close. Some people are senstitive to that kind of topics. Free speach is important, but you have to consider what others think as well in ordere to make this forum good place to discus things. I am not trying to make you mad or anything tho, since it was kinda interesting to know to me. I am a Japanese and never heard of that!! ^0^

Thanks Marudedame, I appreciate you speaking up, like I did. I am a retired Nurse, an RN, and I have never heard that either, what Jigtig was saying. Medically speaking that is not possible. It is all related to the bodys hormone levels.

Happy Vaporing!

 

[kcr]

I don't think there is any standard, across-the-board consensus among suppliers on what constitutes "low," "medium" or "high," so definitley go by the mg on the label.

With pre-filled carts, sometimes it is hard or impossible to know what a particular brand or supplier means by it--which is one of the reasons I do not buy pre-filled carts.

Get your own juice and mix it with plain propylene glycol and/or glycerine.

I have heard that some of the "zero nicotine" carts had detectable levels of nicotine, but I have not heard how high that level was. It is possible it was about the same as a potato. And it was pre-filled carts--another reason to stay away from them.

 

[Proverb]

Thank you for the information! Do they have anything less than 14mg? A real cig only has like 2 mg.

Happy Vaporing!

I'm not sure whether you have acquired all the information you need on the topic, but one thing that's worth stressing (and why I chose to quote this particular thing) is that the nicotine level listed is in mg/ml. That is to say, if a cart or e-Liquid is listed as 14 mg, what they mean is that in one milliliter of the substance there are 14 mg of nicotine. A little confusing, I know!

The DSE-901 you listed as potentially getting has a cartridge that can hold roughly 1 ml. So, if you got the 14 mg stuff, that one cartridge would be worth about seven cigarettes, but what you may not realize is that you're probably not going to be able to vape that entire cartridge all at once.

Everyone vapes differently. Some, myself included, tend to vape quite often, almost what would be chain smoking. In situations like that a lower nicotine content like 12mg - 14 mg, is probably within reason for someone that smoked regularly. Others though, tend to snag a quick vape here and there; imagine if you will, stepping outside for a few puffs on a cigarette and then stomping out the rest. In a case like that you'll probably want a high nicotine content like 18mg or even as high as 24 mg. I know with my vaping habits I simply can't do the 24 mg, but then again, i vape a lot and wasn't a heavy smoker.

All that being said, i hope I wasn't too confusing . The best advice has already been mentioned though by ProfessorDaffy, start higher and work your way down if you're using eJuice and filling your carts yourself. His general rule of thumb is pretty spot on, just bare in mind that a pack-and-a-half a day Light cigarette smoker was getting the same amount of nic as a pack-a-day Regular cigarette smoker

 

[PurKat]

I don't think there is any standard, across-the-board consensus among suppliers on what constitutes "low," "medium" or "high," so definitley go by the mg on the label.

With pre-filled carts, sometimes it is hard or impossible to know what a particular brand or supplier means by it--which is one of the reasons I do not buy pre-filled carts.

Get your own juice and mix it with plain propylene glycol and/or glycerine.

I have heard that some of the "zero nicotine" carts had detectable levels of nicotine, but I have not heard how high that level was. It is possible it was about the same as a potato. And it was pre-filled carts--another reason to stay away from them.

Yes, I have also read that some zero nic product, actually had high nic content in them. So I too, will be filling my own carts.

Thanks for the advice!

 

[PurKat]

....the nicotine level listed is in mg/ml. That is to say, if a cart or e-Liquid is listed as 14 mg, what they mean is that in one milliliter of the substance there are 14 mg of nicotine. A little confusing, I know!

The DSE-901 you listed as potentially getting has a cartridge that can hold roughly 1 ml. So, if you got the 14 mg stuff, that one cartridge would be worth about seven cigarettes, but what you may not realize is that you're probably not going to be able to vape that entire cartridge all at once.

I plan on starting out with zero nic and go from there. I want off the nic, but for too many years, I have used smoking as relaxing method. So these ecigs still give me that relaxing moment, without all them chemicals.

Thanks for you help!

 

[marudedame]

I, myself as noob, can't say for sure, but I think what proverb said sums it up. After reading this thread, I wondered about it too and found this page.

e-cig.com/shopping/shopcontent.asp?type=density

I didn't really understand nicotine per cig puff section tho.
"- for the cigarette with 1.0 mg of nicotine: 0.6 / 15 = 0.040 mg/puff,
- for the cigarette with 1.8 mg of nicotine: 2.4 / 15 = 0.160 mg/puff."
I don't know why 1.0 mg of nicotine convered to .6 and 1.8 converted to 2.4.... Maybe typo. but everything else kinda makes sense to me.

 

[Proverb]

I, myself as noob, can't say for sure, but I think what proverb said sums it up. After reading this thread, I wondered about it too and found this page.

e-cig.com/shopping/shopcontent.asp?type=density

I didn't really understand nicotine per cig puff section tho.
"- for the cigarette with 1.0 mg of nicotine: 0.6 / 15 = 0.040 mg/puff,
- for the cigarette with 1.8 mg of nicotine: 2.4 / 15 = 0.160 mg/puff."
I don't know why 1.0 mg of nicotine convered to .6 and 1.8 converted to 2.4.... Maybe typo. but everything else kinda makes sense to me.

Checked out that site and I agree that's probably a typo on their part. Ignore the stuff before the colon (":"). The stuff after it is accurate. If a cigarette has 2.4mg of nicotine in it and it takes 15 puffs to finish then, 2.4/15 = 0.160 mg/puff.

 

[PurKat]

I, myself as noob, can't say for sure, but I think what proverb said sums it up. After reading this thread, I wondered about it too and found this page.

e-cig.com/shopping/shopcontent.asp?type=density

I didn't really understand nicotine per cig puff section tho.
"- for the cigarette with 1.0 mg of nicotine: 0.6 / 15 = 0.040 mg/puff,
- for the cigarette with 1.8 mg of nicotine: 2.4 / 15 = 0.160 mg/puff."
I don't know why 1.0 mg of nicotine convered to .6 and 1.8 converted to 2.4.... Maybe typo. but everything else kinda makes sense to me.

Maybe the entire cig has 1.0 mg or 1.8 mg, depending on the brand, and each puff is just a fraction of that. So when you smoke the entire cig, then you get the total sum of 1.0mg or 1.8 mg.