FOI documents reveal hi-level conspiracy against vaping

[DrMA]

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[OldBatty]

First link is not working for me. Second one does.

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[AndriaD]

At least in England, most of the gov't is getting on-board with e-cigs being a valid and valuable tool for smoking cessation. Here in the US, can't have that, it would steal too much thunder (and money! the great God of the gov't!) from BP.

Who would have ever thought that a country so mired in "tradition for tradition's sake" would be so far ahead of the US in forward-thinking?

Andria

 

[EBates]

Say it ain't so Joe!
I'm sure it is just a misunderstanding!
One of the most trusted leaders of an organization Plotting To Harm The Folks They Are To Protect?!!! What Possible Motive Could There Be For Such Unspeakable Acts?
DUHHHHH, MONEY!!!

I'm so proud We Live In The Land Of The Free And Home Of The Brave where we could never have something like this happen!

 

[DC2]

Say it ain't so Joe!

Joe did in fact say it ain't so.
I doubt the folks who are the subject of the thread will say it weren't so.

 

[aikanae1]

At least in England, most of the gov't is getting on-board with e-cigs being a valid and valuable tool for smoking cessation. Here in the US, can't have that, it would steal too much thunder (and money! the great God of the gov't!) from BP.

Who would have ever thought that a country so mired in "tradition for tradition's sake" would be so far ahead of the US in forward-thinking?

Andria

Unlike other policy issues, it'll be hard for them to cover up the results of their actions. Its sad when you consier the human cost. I think it'll be important to keep everyone's memory fresh of what could have been and what it was like because even if they do extend the grandfather date, they'll still be rolling technology backwards a decade.

Just even the idea of banning technology is laughable and frightening, and that's what they want to do by banning vape gear. There's a number of uses outside of not smoking for zero nic, can it cure a sweet tooth or piza craving for diabetes or the obese? Both of those are serious public health issues that rival smoking for the top concern.

They aren't just banning vaping, they want to ban the technology too. I wonder if UK will limit/disable their devices too?

 

[Woofer]

Who would have ever thought that a country so mired in "tradition for tradition's sake" would be so far ahead of the US in forward-thinking?

Me.

The world is 6000 years old.
Let's build a wall around the country, literally.
Trump will fix "it"

I could go on and on...

 

[Lemwise]

At least in England, most of the gov't is getting on-board with e-cigs being a valid and valuable tool for smoking cessation.

I think that's mainly because of the publicly funded NHS. If they can get people to stop smoking it frees up funds that can be spent on other things. If the US had a similar health service the reaction to vaping would be completely different.

 

[AndriaD]

I think that's mainly because of the publicly funded NHS. If they can get people to stop smoking it frees up funds that can be spent on other things. If the US had a similar health service the reaction to vaping would be completely different.

Probably true -- apparently in the UK, you can get patches for free, but here they still cost a bloody fortune. Naturally BP doesn't want any competition for their utterly useless products, especially competition that ACTUALLY WORKS!!!

Andria

 

[Uma]

I think that's mainly because of the publicly funded NHS. If they can get people to stop smoking it frees up funds that can be spent on other things. If the US had a similar health service the reaction to vaping would be completely different.

Seriously? The NIH, NHHS, etc, spend most of their time rallying for more funds to help them continue full circle.
Banning smoking, for instance, has sent business owners, employees, renters, condo owners, to the streets, literally. Homelessness is rampant. Pneumonia, drug use, violence, mental instability, etc create more pleas for more funding.
Guess who gets the money? The pensions, the ceo's, the benefits of all the government NIH branches.
Seriously, Google your city & state's expenditures on NHHS rentals, salaries, benefits, pensions, and the lack of affordable housing. Notice especially, the behavior control format that must be heeded if the people desire help. Not only are the facilities closing, short handed, they declare there is not enough funding to literally help anyone. They created the huge mess, yet people still believe them when they beg for more resources.
When a couple has to separate, in order to have shelter, look twice.
When people have to give up their family members & pets, in order to have shelter, look twice.
When the mentally handicapped or disturbed cannot access "public mental health" programs, look twice.
When people are forced from their jobs, businesses, homes, health care, look twice.