For the "Computer Illiterate"

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Kuonoono

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Since I have started vaping almost 2 months ago, I guess I have turned into an unoffical spokes person for V4L. Its hard not to tell people about a product that changed your life. Anyways.. I work at a Casino, so you can only imagine how many people set there chain smoking. And I have come across alot of people that want to get on the V4L band wagon, but some either dont have internet or are Computer Illiterate. So my question is, Do yall take orders over the phone? I thought about printing off some mini catologs and passing them out to the people who cant order online with your number to call to place the order.

I have already had to make copies of your business cards to pass out.. lol .. I have been ordering for a few people, And thanks to this fourm i am able to tell them what everything is and how everything works. Yall have done a great job at making sure everything a newbie needs to know is on here. Thank you.
 

jayvap33

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We do take orders on the phone. 847-239-5374 or 224-723-5340 they both ring our brand spankin new phone system

You guys should put that on the front page of Vapor4Life-Because it's your life - E-Cigarettes/Smoking Alternatives
And change the bottom wikipedia e-cig definition, which I updated to include non-nicotine juices:

NEW:
An electronic cigarette, e-cigarette or personal vaporizer, is a battery-powered device that provides inhaled doses of nicotine or non-nicotine vaporized solution. It is an alternative to smoked tobacco products, such as cigarettes, cigars, or pipes. In addition to purported nicotine delivery,[1] this vapor also provides a flavor and physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke, while no smoke or combustion is actually involved in its operation.
An electronic cigarette takes the form of some manner of elongated tube, though many are designed to resemble the outward appearance of real smoking products, like cigarettes, cigars, and pipes. Another common design is the "pen-style", so named for its visual resemblance to a ballpoint pen. Most electronic cigarettes are reusable devices with replaceable and refillable parts. A number of disposable electronic cigarettes have also been developed.

OLD (still on VFL home page):
An electronic cigarette, also known as an e-cigarette or personal vaporizer, is a battery-powered device that provides inhaled doses of nicotine by way of a vaporized solution. It is an alternative to smoked tobacco products, such as cigarettes, cigars, or pipes. In addition to nicotine delivery, this vapor also provides a flavor and physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke, while no tobacco, smoke, or combustion is actually involved in its operation. An electronic cigarette usually takes the form of some manner of elongated tube, though many are designed to resemble the outward appearance of real smoking products, like cigarettes, cigars, and pipes. Another common design is the "pen-style", so named for its visual resemblance to a ballpoint pen. Most electronic cigarettes are reusable devices with replaceable and refillable parts. A number of disposable electronic cigarettes have also been developed.
 

Mary Kay

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You are truly an Angel! But I have to say if you do too much of the research and work for people they won't put in the work on the learning curve for themselves! I have given away full starter kits including cartos and refill juice to people..sat down and gave the whole 'How to" lecture and followed up. In a week or two they are whining that it's too much trouble! That's when Itell them to send it all back and I will vape it for them!
 

5cardstud

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Kuonoono, You are a great person for helping these people.
That's the exact reason my friend is still smoking. I keep telling her to go online and check but she just wants me to sell her the stuff. What if she don't like the juice or it's to strong. What if she has problems with a battery or...
I don't mind helping her get started but I see all the things these vendors go through and I don't want the headache. Nor do I want to feel bad if she just don't like what I get her and thinks she wasted her money.
 
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plantlvr

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You are truly an Angel! But I have to say if you do too much of the research and work for people they won't put in the work on the learning curve for themselves! I have given away full starter kits including cartos and refill juice to people..sat down and gave the whole 'How to" lecture and followed up. In a week or two they are whining that it's too much trouble! That's when Itell them to send it all back and I will vape it for them!

Great post and have to agree, some folks just feel it's too much effort to vape when you can get a pack of smokes and fire one up anywhere.But for some people it's either worth the extra effort to finally break the cigarette ball and chain, or a fluke, like me, that loved to smoke but vaping was so much better that we quit the cigs on the spot.
I think it was Lincoln that said something like 'You can please people some of the time, but you can't please all people all of the time'.
Sorry if my phrasing was wrong but ya get my drift...
 

bpaulette

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Hats off to you, seriously, for going that far to help them!!! Very cool of you

I've also come across a few people that just aren't that internet savvy, and to be honest, I didn't even think about actually ordering for them.

...heh - and yeah MK - have also had a few of those myself. The most recent battery I loaned out was for the father of one of my oldest friends - he has copd - he told me a few weeks later that he choked on his first drag, and never tried another. Almost seemed miffed at me. (I'm thinkin... OK... sorry - so can I have my XL back? - still haven't gotten that one back yet - oh well)
 
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Mary Kay

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We were at our new house (my chidhood home, so not a new house) painting and doing repairs when a guy my daughter hired to do our heavy yard work saw my e-cig and was interested. I gave him some info, Steve's card and a card from ECF. He tried a vape and of course coughed..but to his credit he kept trying until her got vapor! He said he would look into these e-cigs.
For me that's the way to go..leading the horse to water...if they drink..great!
 

jayvap33

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You are truly an Angel! But I have to say if you do too much of the research and work for people they won't put in the work on the learning curve for themselves! I have given away full starter kits including cartos and refill juice to people..sat down and gave the whole 'How to" lecture and followed up. In a week or two they are whining that it's too much trouble! That's when Itell them to send it all back and I will vape it for them!
E-cigs are not for Luddites and mopes. You have to be a gadget-person, proactive, committed, disciplined and even tenacious at times. I love to get people on e-cigs, but it is disheartening when your efforts are in vane. My love for this life-saving hobby keeps me motivated though...
 

Kuonoono

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Kuonoono, You are a great person for helping these people.
That's the exact reason my friend is still smoking. I keep telling her to go online and check but she just wants me to sell her the stuff. What if she don't like the juice or it's to strong. What if she has problems with a battery or...
I don't mind helping her get started but I see all the things these vendors go through and I don't want the headache. Nor do I want to feel bad if she just don't like what I get her and thinks she wasted her money.

I was starting to feel like a vendor..lol calling all the time about little things.. didnt like the flavor they got.. how to this and that.. So i may not be as nice as some would think.. lol just tried of the headache. I will do as much as i can but at some time they to take control.. I am so thrilled v4l takes orders over the phone. :) I will give the "catolog" and some starter info and then its up to them to make it happpen. Kuddos to v4l customer service!
 
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