For those who think 22 gauge is to thick

[SoTxEthan]

So I recently came across a thread knocking 22 gauge kanthal and I just wanted to post my thoughts/experiences. I use 22 gauge kanthal religiously and I love it. I use dual 8 wrap 5/64 coils and I read at a consistent .22 ohms. Running the sig 150 with rem creations entry deck, heats up instantaneously with HUGE vapor production, far more than anyone I've came across running the sig 150 with a different combination. Just my .2 cents

 

[Wraith504]

So I recently came across a thread knocking 22 gauge kanthal and I just wanted to post my thoughts/experiences. I use 22 gauge kanthal religiously and I love it. I use dual 8 wrap 5/64 coils and I read at a consistent .22 ohms. Running the sig 150 with rem creations entry drip tip, heats up instantaneously with HUGE vapor production, far more than anyone I've came across running the sig 150 with a different combination. Just my .2 cents

I use 22 with no problem as well. what wattage are you running this build at?

 

[Rabbit Slayer]

You didn't mention what rda/deck you're building on

 

[IMFire3605]

These are my thoughts, warning not trying to sound condescending, these are just my opinions

1) 22awg is resilient and strong, thus can run them for a long time, only positive it has IMO
2) Compare to even 24 or 26awg, it is very hard to wrap, though it does keep its shape when you do, feels like to me wrapping with a paper clip as wire
3) Resistance is way to low IMO. Back in the heyday of mechs, wanted a low low resistance cloud maker, yes 22awg works, however, see #4 below
4) Ramp up time is way to long with it, as well as cool down time is atrocious when I have dealt with it, anything over a 3mm 5/4 or 6/5 wrap dual coil takes forever to ramp up and cool down when on a mech. Now as you stated above you are running a dual coil 22awg on a Sig150w, probably in the 100 to 120watt output minimum range to get any instant action from it. On a mech with only 4.2v fresh charged battery to deal with, ramp up time takes a while, two completely different monsters when dealing with 22awg.
5) It is not a gauge of wire for your general new vaper or someone just learning to rebuild as stated in #3, resistance is to low in the wire to be experimenting with when just beginning.

 

[Ou2mame]

It depends on what you're using it with.

 

[SoTxEthan]

These are my thoughts, warning not trying to sound condescending, these are just my opinions

1) 22awg is resilient and strong, thus can run them for a long time, only positive it has IMO
2) Compare to even 24 or 26awg, it is very hard to wrap, though it does keep its shape when you do, feels like to me wrapping with a paper clip as wire
3) Resistance is way to low IMO. Back in the heyday of mechs, wanted a low low resistance cloud maker, yes 22awg works, however, see #4 below
4) Ramp up time is way to long with it, as well as cool down time is atrocious when I have dealt with it, anything over a 3mm 5/4 or 6/5 wrap dual coil takes forever to ramp up and cool down when on a mech. Now as you stated above you are running a dual coil 22awg on a Sig150w, probably in the 100 to 120watt output minimum range to get any instant action from it. On a mech with only 4.2v fresh charged battery to deal with, ramp up time takes a while, two completely different monsters when dealing with 22awg.
5) It is not a gauge of wire for your general new vaper or someone just learning to rebuild as stated in #3, resistance is to low in the wire to be experimenting with when just beginning.

These are my thoughts, warning not trying to sound condescending, these are just my opinions

1) 22awg is resilient and strong, thus can run them for a long time, only positive it has IMO
2) Compare to even 24 or 26awg, it is very hard to wrap, though it does keep its shape when you do, feels like to me wrapping with a paper clip as wire
3) Resistance is way to low IMO. Back in the heyday of mechs, wanted a low low resistance cloud maker, yes 22awg works, however, see #4 below
4) Ramp up time is way to long with it, as well as cool down time is atrocious when I have dealt with it, anything over a 3mm 5/4 or 6/5 wrap dual coil takes forever to ramp up and cool down when on a mech. Now as you stated above you are running a dual coil 22awg on a Sig150w, probably in the 100 to 120watt output minimum range to get any instant action from it. On a mech with only 4.2v fresh charged battery to deal with, ramp up time takes a while, two completely different monsters when dealing with 22awg.
5) It is not a gauge of wire for your general new vaper or someone just learning to rebuild as stated in #3, resistance is to low in the wire to be experimenting with when just beginning.

Lol I guess I'm just strong then because I have no problem wrapping it and maybe it's just my build but as long as I'm above 75 watts ramp up time is just as quick and any other build I've done, and that's with pretty much any charge about 3.5 or higher.

 

[Sgt.Rock]

22 ga Nichrome 80 -- 3 mm -- 6/5 wraps flat out kicks .... in my Lemo2 on a Stingray X Mech

As always, many will have different opinions..some valid and some not so much.

 

[SoTxEthan]

It depends on what you're using it with.

true

 

[Ou2mame]

It might work well for your application but for others it might be a mistake is what I meant. You phrased the post as an open endorsement for 22g kanthal, I was just clarifying that it depends on the device you are using it in.

 

[SoTxEthan]

You didn't mention what rda/deck you're building on

Thought it was obvious what I meant since the rem entry doesn't have an interchangeable tip. I will be more specific next time for the members who need things broadstroked.

 

[SoTxEthan]

I use 22 with no problem as well. what wattage are you running this build at?

Varies. Anywhere from 75-150

 

[SoTxEthan]

It might work well for your application but for others it might be a mistake is what I meant. You phrased the post as an open endorsement for 22g kanthal, I was just clarifying that it depends on the device you are using it in.

Gotcha. not so much endorsing it as providing an opinion on it from the other side. Like I said I always see people knocking it and I do not see why, I started building with it and still use it today. Of course I run 28 gauge in my subtank mini but that's personal preference... Well and because you can't really use 22 in it haha

 

[slayerr]

I love 22 gauge. I use 22 gauge dual coil 3 mm 7 wrap .2 ohms it is my ADV. Somtime's I do 2.5 m 8 wrap. I havent decided if I like 3 mm or 2.5 better. I think I prefer 3 mm as it seems to wick better. I like it around 75-80 watts on my troll rda on my sigelei 150. What do you guys prefer for diameter on a regulated box

 

[IMFire3605]

It's all up to preference. As stated above, it is not for a newbie to be playing around with when you take into consideration they have no practice as to this many wraps at this internal diameter. 24awg is about the thickest gauge wire I use in one of 2 configs, simple dual coil dripper, or as the core wire for a hot clapton wrapped with 28awg, beside that I use mainly 26awg in my drippers, and 28 or 30awg in my Kayfuns and such. If it works for you and you've become accustomed to using it, by all means no one is stopping you using it, just this was posted in the New Members Sub-Forum instead of General Discussion or the more Advance Rebuildables Sections so was just throwing out a warning that was all along with giving my opinion of what I think of 22awg.

 

[DaveSignal]

So I recently came across a thread knocking 22 gauge kanthal and I just wanted to post my thoughts/experiences. I use 22 gauge kanthal religiously and I love it. I use dual 8 wrap 5/64 coils and I read at a consistent .22 ohms. Running the sig 150 with rem creations entry deck, heats up instantaneously with HUGE vapor production, far more than anyone I've came across running the sig 150 with a different combination. Just my .2 cents

I use 22g often. But usually do 6 wraps around the same diameter (2mm), so the resistance is lower. I am using it on unregulated mods, however.
Sometimes I do dual parallel 24g coils. And sometimes I use nichrome instead of kanthal... in that case I might actually do 8 wraps. All of my low resistance builds can make similar vapor production, but the 22g is warmer and I've grown accustomed to liking it that way.

 

[Wraith504]

I love 22 gauge. I use 22 gauge dual coil 3 mm 7 wrap .2 ohms it is my ADV. Somtime's I do 2.5 m 8 wrap. I havent decided if I like 3 mm or 2.5 better. I think I prefer 3 mm as it seems to wick better. I like it around 75-80 watts on my troll rda on my sigelei 150. What do you guys prefer for diameter on a regulated box

I like 22awg at 2.5 mm between 8-10 wraps. Meters around .2-.24 if you set it anywhere 80-85 and up there is no worrying about ramp time. if you do the same at 3mm, you will need a little more wattage to combat the ramp time. Not to mention you cant always fit 3mm coils in certain rda/rtas.

 

[NealBJr]

So I recently came across a thread knocking 22 gauge kanthal and I just wanted to post my thoughts/experiences. I use 22 gauge kanthal religiously and I love it. I use dual 8 wrap 5/64 coils and I read at a consistent .22 ohms. Running the sig 150 with rem creations entry deck, heats up instantaneously with HUGE vapor production, far more than anyone I've came across running the sig 150 with a different combination. Just my .2 cents

Hrm.. a thread knocking 22 gauge kanthal eh? Well, do they have 22 gauge kanthal in my protank II coils? how well would it work in a Taifun GTII that I'm vaping from now?

It is a matter of personal taste. If I mention 28 gauge kanthal as my preferred choice, I'm sure that it's not to some people's liking. but it suits me just fine. I also have some 32 gauge kanthal I use from time to time.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

+1 on N80. It's better for super low builds IMHO. Heats up/cools down quicker and is easier on batteries. My standard build for a dripper is duallies, 24G N80, 3mm, 6 wraps. Ohms out at .2ish, fires instantly at anything 35W+ and makes klowdz bro. The only KA1 I use anymore is 28G, and that's just in my RTA's.

 

[Bunnykiller]

how long do your batteries last and how often do you change your wicks?

 

[evan le'garde]

Hrm.. a thread knocking 22 gauge kanthal eh? Well, do they have 22 gauge kanthal in my protank II coils? how well would it work in a Taifun GTII that I'm vaping from now?

It is a matter of personal taste. If I mention 28 gauge kanthal as my preferred choice, I'm sure that it's not to some people's liking. but it suits me just fine. I also have some 32 gauge kanthal I use from time to time.

The 2.8ohm protank coils are 32 awg or 0.20mm unless you're using 1.8 ohm coils then they're thicker like 29 or 30. 22 awg wouldn't fit inside a Protank II coil head.

I'm using 24 guage kanthal in my dual coil RTA's. Been meaning to get some thicker wire and will at some point. Want to try out some 23, 22, 21 and 20. As it is i'm using 24 awg at 2.5 mm id with 6 wraps and they're ohming in at about 0.2ohm's and produces reasonably large clouds at 45 watts and because of that i'm vaping with 9mg e liquid, although with thicker wire i could cut the mg even more, say 4.5mg.
On the other hand i like mouth to lung too so i am using 32 guage kanthal in my authentic Kayfun V4 on a Provari v2.5 at 4.5v. Pretty expensive kit at £320 seeing at it only produces about as much vapour as a Protank 2, but it looks awesome !. Build to last a lifetime i use it with a high level of nicotine, got it down to 24mg. Less vapour means higher mg's, it does for me anyway !.