Framed staple single coil .17 in Clutch 21700

[Lsxtrucker]

I'm experiencing decent ramp up times with my 4mm framed staple build from AVS in single coil 5 wrap ohm tested at 0 17.

Its an improvement over the quad core clapton I was previously running. 30x4 +40 @ .25

The clapton build i pulled because of the solid 3.5 second ramp up was an an annoyance to say the least. The framed staple is ramping up decent in half second but is draining the hell out of my Molicell p42s

Any advice is appreciated is battery consumption supposed to be significant on a cell this big?

 

[Ben85]

Why build so low?

 

[Lsxtrucker]

Why build so low?

I've built it higher at .22 and even .28 but to say its sluggish at those resistances would be an understatement. .17 isnt that low it's about 100 watts which isnt too hot on such a massive coil. Now if it were 3.0 ID I'd probably build around. 25 to be at 70 watts or so. What's your recommendation?

 

[Ben85]

The reason you are getting pants battery life is because of the sheer amount of metal you have in your coil. Have you tried just a regular round wire build?

 

[Lsxtrucker]

I've been married to these AVS coils I have so many on hand. But yes I did use round wire long ago but noticed a huge difference (improvement) in flavor once switching to more complex builds. I guess it's a trade off. Thanks for your insight.

 

[Ben85]

Unfortunately, because of the build you are pulling a lot of current. So you will always eat through batteries. Unless you change the build you either need spare cells, or a parallel mod.

 

[sonicbomb]

Like Ben said, you are getting slow ramp up times because of the sheer quantity of metal you are trying heat up.

 

[Lsxtrucker]

Like Ben said, you are getting slow ramp up times because of the sheer quantity of metal you are trying heat up.

I'll throw a simple round wire in it next build and give it a whirl. I guess its good that I vape single coil because all the coils I have on hand even with an extra wrap will ohm out at .13 in dual. I'm only pulling 24 amps which isnt ridiculous am I wrong here? So a similar resistance build with thinner wire may be the answer.

 

[mimöschen]

If you're into "exotic" coils .17ohm is quite high for dual coils on a mech.
If you don't like round wire builds, you can try N80 26*2/40, 3mm ID, 5 wraps, which comes out to .15 on a dual coil atty.
Works perfectly fine for me. Ymmv.

 

[Lsxtrucker]

I'm running single at .17 if I was building duals I'd probably aim for .13 to .15 . This isn't something I'm new at I was just surprised by the battery drain on these cells.

 

[sonicbomb]

It's possible you are losing power within your mech. Poorly machined threads dirt and corrosion can add up to quite a bit of voltage drop.

 

[Lsxtrucker]

This was my mistake my cell wasn't fully charged. I re checked my voltage on this battery and it was at just 3.6 volts! No wonder. I'm sitting pretty now with the single .17 build and could probably even build a tad lower which I dont plan to because I have a wonderful warm vape at this resistance and build now. Whew!

 

[sonicbomb]

This was my mistake my cell wasn't fully charged.

 

[Lsxtrucker]

Lol too funny.

 

[Dr. Seuss]

I switched to SS for my coils. Drops resistance a little and a surprisingly big coil ramps up really quick. Right now it’s dual 26x2/36 with 7 wraps and ohms out at .14. It’s on a Vindicator 28, 21700 with Samsung 30 T. All I use now is SS.

With that coil set up there’s no need to purge the atomizer while it ramps up. You push the button and it goes.

 

[Lsxtrucker]

I switched to SS for my coils. Drops resistance a little and a surprisingly big coil ramps up really quick. Right now it’s dual 26x2/36 with 7 wraps and ohms out at .14. It’s on a Vindicator 28, 21700 with Samsung 30 T. All I use now is SS.

With that coil set up there’s no need to purge the atomizer while it ramps up. You push the button and it goes.

Same here. All I use is Stainless. I get my coils from AVS and I've never looked back. No Ni80/90, Kanthal other metals for me. Nice to see you are enjoying SS. If you havent already check out Advanced Vapor Supply as they are a fantastic USA based company with only SS coils. Its their main game