Free Camel snus

[smokinsimon]

Hi everybody,
I'm still a smoker, never had intentions on quitting, but to use ecig as a alternative. But I still smoke.
Anyway, went to get a pack of smokes the other day, and they were giving away free tins of snus with any RJ brand.
Now I've got 3 tins sitting here, and havent tried them yet.
I have 2 frost and 1 mellow, still unopened. They sell them cold. So my question is why do they sell them cold?
Also does anybody have any study info on them, I'd like to know if they are any safer than any other tobacco product.
I used to dip Skoal bandits maybe 16 years ago as a teen, (was just what farm boys did) I just can't get my head around why you don't have to spit, I remember back in school we would put a bandit i the upper lip so we didnt get as much spit, and could hide it in class, but would still make ya feel yucky after awhile swallowing it. How is snus any different?
Thanks

 

[smokinsimon]

And another question..
Why has no company came up with the all mint snuff with nicotine?
Seems like the perfect solution. If it had the nic levels of regular dip, but made from mint, problem solved.. Or at least 99% solved.. Damn thats a perfect solution for a lot of people out there.

 

[ProtoType]

Wow. Smoke. vape. Dip. And how don't you throw up? Lol.

 

[Stubby]

Hi everybody,
I'm still a smoker, never had intentions on quitting, but to use ecig as a alternative. But I still smoke.
Anyway, went to get a pack of smokes the other day, and they were giving away free tins of snus with any RJ brand.
Now I've got 3 tins sitting here, and havent tried them yet.
I have 2 frost and 1 mellow, still unopened. They sell them cold. So my question is why do they sell them cold?
Also does anybody have any study info on them, I'd like to know if they are any safer than any other tobacco product.
I used to dip Skoal bandits maybe 16 years ago as a teen, (was just what farm boys did) I just can't get my head around why you don't have to spit, I remember back in school we would put a bandit i the upper lip so we didnt get as much spit, and could hide it in class, but would still make ya feel yucky after awhile swallowing it. How is snus any different?
Thanks

Lots of questions. I would start out by doing some reading here

SNUSCentral.Org - Your Source For Everything SNUS

Also a good snus forum

http://www.snuson.com/index.php

Lots of good information on snus and reduced harm. There are decades of studies done on snus. It's the major form of tobacco used in Sweden so the whole country is one big study group.

It's refrigerated for freshness. It's not as critical with the white portions (that's what camel SNUS is) but it's generally a good idea.

You don't spit snus, and it taste wonderful, though it can be an acquired taste. The toxicity level of Swedish style snus are far lower then the american snuff. It's air cured and steam pasteurized as opposed to fire cured and fermented as with the american skoal type. No connection to any oral cancers. Swallowing the juice will not make you sick.

Swedish style snus is the poster boy for reduced harm tobacco with far more research behind it then e-cigs.

 

[smokinsimon]

Wow. Smoke. Vape. Dip. And how don't you throw up? Lol.

LOL.. No I don't dip, I did back in high school, and started smoking due to the girl factor.. They didn't like kissing a dude with a chew habit lol..

Lots of questions. I would start out by doing some reading here

SNUSCentral.Org - Your Source For Everything SNUS

Also a good snus forum

SnusOn.com - Snus Forum :: Index

Lots of good information on snus and reduced harm. There are decades of studies done on snus. It's the major form of tobacco used in Sweden so the whole country is one big study group.

It's refrigerated for freshness. It's not as critical with the white portions (that's what camel SNUS is) but it's generally a good idea.

You don't spit snus, and it taste wonderful, though it can be an acquired taste. The toxicity level of Swedish style snus are far lower then the american snuff. It's air cured and steam pasteurized as opposed to fire cured and fermented as with the american skoal type. No connection to any oral cancers. Swallowing the juice will not make you sick.

Swedish style snus is the poster boy for reduced harm tobacco with far more research behind it then e-cigs.

Thanks for the info man,
Bookmarked.
I was trying ecigs to cut down maybe quit cigs, it works for the most part, but not as well, or as convenient or socially aceptable as I would like, for now anyway, not cutting it for me. But that's OK, not for everybody I guess, at least I gave it a good open minded shot.
I got free tins of Camel snus with my cigs, haven't tried them yet. Sitting on my desk. Just opened and smelled them, and they smell nice.
So the Swedish snus is different than American snus? So does that meen American snus isn't any less risky than regular ol' skoal?

 

[Stubby]

LOL.. No I don't dip, I did back in high school, and started smoking due to the girl factor.. They didn't like kissing a dude with a chew habit lol..




Thanks for the info man,
Bookmarked.
I was trying ecigs to cut down maybe quit cigs, it works for the most part, but not as well, or as convenient or socially aceptable as I would like, for now anyway, not cutting it for me. But that's OK, not for everybody I guess, at least I gave it a good open minded shot.
I got free tins of Camel snus with my cigs, haven't tried them yet. Sitting on my desk. Just opened and smelled them, and they smell nice.
So the Swedish snus is different than American snus? So does that meen American snus isn't any less risky than regular ol' skoal?

A good question and one that brings up a lot of debate among snus users. American camel Snus is very likely a good deal less risky over skoal. The question is how much compared to Swedish Snus. In Sweden snus is heavily regulated. All ingredients are listed on the package. There is also extensive testing for purity etc. It's all open and in the public. You know what you're getting.

With the American camel SNUS... you're just not quite sure. No ingredients listed. Toxicity levels are hard to come by. Best guess is that it's much better then skoal. But speaking for myself, given the choice, I'll stay with the Swedes.

 

[smokinsimon]

Thanks for the info again.
Giving these a taste, and they arent too bad. There is a smoke shop 30 min from me that sells General brand swede snus. Might give that a try, these work pretty good. After 15 years of smoking 1.5-2 packs a day, anythings better than that. Gotta get of these things, can't breath anymore. Doc said I had to quit, cause I'm weezing.

 

[mcl5000]

I can't exactly explain why you don't need to spit Snus, but I'll say this...you just don't.

If you put it near the front of your mouth (on the top) it really doesn't even get that wet. You can press your gums against your lip for a big "hit" of it, and nothing will really come out.

Now, if you put it back by your molars on the top, then you'll feel like you need to spit. I've swallowed a small amount a few times and didn't throw up (swallowing the same amount while dipping probably would have), but it's still unpleasant.

I got into Snus because I had a rental car for a few weeks and wasn't supposed to smoke in it on my hour commute to work...it actually did the trick.

 

[Kobayashi]

I just got into the camel Snus. I realy like it and it seems healthier. One drawback is it rots your gums and stains your teeth. I heard the Swedish Snus was better and found a site to order a trial pack for a buck. Its Get snus at GetSnus.com. I tried this stuff i didnt like it better than the Camel Mild Snus.

 

[Stranger]

Why has no company came up with the all mint snuff with nicotine?
short answer the FDA
All of Camels new non smoking products (Snus, orb, sticks and the others) contain tobacco not straight nicotine. Until a few weeks ago that kept them out from under the FDA's control. Tobacco products were ok (but heavily taxed) anything that delivers nicotine other than tobacco is a drug. That is why for years you had to have a Rx for nicotine gum but could get smokes and chew most any place.

That is what I am afraid will do in e cigs. If they are tobacco , then they will be taxed and you can't use them in public. If they are not tobacco, they are a drug in the eyes of the FDA.

 

[Stranger]

I just got into the camel Snus. I realy like it and it seems healthier. One drawback is it rots your gums and stains your teeth. I heard the Swedish Snus was better and found a site to order a trial pack for a buck.

It is my understanding that the Swedish snus are pasteurized. This somehow removes some of the carcinogens. From what I have read the American Camel and Marlboro snus are not.

 

[Stubby]

I just got into the camel Snus. I realy like it and it seems healthier. One drawback is it rots your gums and stains your teeth. I heard the Swedish Snus was better and found a site to order a trial pack for a buck. Its Get snus at GetSnus.com. I tried this stuff i didnt like it better than the Camel Mild Snus.

Some good propaganda type information in the above statement. At best a big exaggeration. Just had a cleaning/checkup a few days ago and my dentist is very glad I'm off cigarettes. Nothing unusual going on. Gums look healthier then they have when I smoked.

Some people do report some mild gum recession where the snus can touch the gum line on the upper teeth. Others report noticeable better gums after quitting cigarettes for snus. Get a Sonicare and some floss and you're not likely going to have any problems.

 

[smokinsimon]

Why has no company came up with the all mint snuff with nicotine?
short answer the FDA

That's such a shame, all mint snuff with nicotine could save millions and millions of people world wide. I wish a company had the balls to step up with it.

 

[TropicalBob]

Stonewall Wintergreen is a dissolvable pellet of tobacco with a strong mint taste. American Smokeless Tobacco's new Discreet brand has two flavors of snus in mint. They are quite sweet. It's out there ...

 

[nikomoul]

Bought a $1.99 pack of camel snus and got another one for free. Tried the frost and it was o.k. Not great, not bad. I still have to try the mellow on the way home. Don't see how i could become addicted to this stuff though. The pouch was visible, not too discrete. I guess i have to put it back toward my molars?

 

[nikomoul]

O.K. Update! I tried the mellow on the way home and it was DELICIOUS! It didn't burn either! It tasted like honey and sugar. There was a slight orange-flavored tea flavor too. Mmmm! I could like this after all!

 

[TropicalBob]

I have a mellow in place at this very moment. These are indeed quite tasty. My only complaint will be price/value versus Swedish snus ordered online. RJR just thinks they can get more than $4 for 15 pieces!

 

[nikomoul]

I have a mellow in place at this very moment. These are indeed quite tasty. My only complaint will be price/value versus Swedish snus ordered online. RJR just thinks they can get more than $4 for 15 pieces!

Tropicalbob, I read somewhere that the camel snus has like 8 mg of nicotine? Am I wrong here? I remember reading that each marlboro light cig had 0.8 mg nicotine. Am i taking in 10x the amount of nicotine with the snus???

 

[Stubby]

Tropicalbob, I read somewhere that the camel snus has like 8 mg of nicotine? Am I wrong here? I remember reading that each marlboro light cig had 0.8 mg nicotine. Am i taking in 10x the amount of nicotine with the snus???

Okay, I'm not TB but I'll give it a try.

Here's a link to a good article by Swedish Match on nicotine absorption via snus

Nicotine uptake - Swedish Match

Bottom line is that you only absorb about 10% to 20% of the nicotine in snus.

A quote from the article

An experimental cross-over study of blood plasma levels obtained after controlled snus use of four different portion-packed snus products of various weight and format, different nicotine content and different pH values showed that the nicotine intake varies between 0.4 and 1.2 mg per pinch.

The nicotine numbers you cited are for absorbed nicotine for Marlboro lights. The actual nicotine content of the cigarette is likely about 10 times that amount. The trick in this is to not confuse actual with absorbed nicotine. Bottom line is that if you are a light cigarette smoker, and not more then a pack-a-day, you will likely do well with minis. Perhaps an occasional regular portion if you feel the need.

There are actually other things to consider with nicotine absorption. The ph value can also have an big influence. The higher the ph the more and faster the nic is absorbed. The came SNUS may have 8mg of nicotine but the ph is likely on the low side. You get about the same amount of nic as a higher ph swedish mini snus. Same goes for the Discreet snus from what I have been hearing.

Hope this helps

 

[nikomoul]

Okay, I'm not TB but I'll give it a try.

The nicotine numbers you cited are for absorbed nicotine for Marlboro lights. The actual nicotine content of the cigarette is likely about 10 times that amount. The trick in this is to not confuse actual with absorbed nicotine. Bottom line is that if you are a light cigarette smoker, and not more then a pack-a-day, you will likely do well with minis. Perhaps an occasional regular portion if you feel the need.
Hope this helps

I had read each cigarette contains 0.8 mg nicotine, but that we only inhale/take in about 50% of that. Hmmm... confusing!