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Discussion in 'Experiments With Equipment' started by strayling, Apr 6, 2009.

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  1. strayling

    strayling Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 25, 2009
    Seattle, USA
  2. Wildsky

    Wildsky Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 9, 2009
    Nebraska
    There are some threads here about that, and trying to overcome the glue on them.
     
  3. Boston George

    Boston George Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2009
    Rochester, NY
    Don't do it. DIY carts are a bad idea. It will be very hard for you to be sure that you are not vaping something toxic like glue. Moreover, its hard to control nicotine concentration. If someone kills themselves with a home made bs the media will freak and all e-cig users will suffer. The U-boats arent stopping all the orders from china yet, buy the real product.
     
  4. strayling

    strayling Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 25, 2009
    Seattle, USA
    I wasn't exactly serious about that but it would be amusing if possible. What got me was the double standard of giving away free nicotine patches with the one hand and trying to ban e-cigs with the other. I guess nicotine must only be evil if you buy it for yourself.
     
  5. Boston George

    Boston George Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2009
    Rochester, NY
    No, you are evil for choosing your source of nicotine...

    It's the whole 'free will' thing they have an issue with.
     
  6. OutWest

    OutWest Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Feb 8, 2009
    Oklahoma USA
    it's simple - if you consume nicotine in a way that isnt visible (patch, gum, pill) then it's okay. But, if you inhale your nicotine, even if it's not done via smoking, or if you use a nicotine product that requires spitting (and thus is visible) then youre evil.
     
  7. strayling

    strayling Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 25, 2009
    Seattle, USA
    I reckon they think e-cigs are somehow cheating. We're not supposed to enjoy nicotine, and vaping is far too much fun to be allowed.
     
  8. TribbleTrouble

    TribbleTrouble Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2009
    Rio Rancho, NM
    As far as my opinion is concerned, I feel like these Personal Vaporizers are a gift from God! They are the one and only thing that has separated me from the tobacco smoke. As far as extracting known amounts of Nicotine, you can use the inserts for the Nicotrol/Nicorette Inhailer. It doesn't have the "glue" issue like the patch does.
     
  9. hopps

    hopps Full Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    WI,USA
    Curious if they are using the same system WI offered last yr when they hiked the prices..advertised big time how a smoker would be given for free their choice of nic system,(patch or gum)so no reason not to give up the smokes blah blah.
    Called
    Them: Do you have insurance?
    Me:Yes,but it does NOT cover nic replacement/quit smoking of any sort.
    Them:Well sorry,we can't help unless you have the right insurance,we need to charge them for the system.:-x

    talk about false advertising:rolleyes:

    But it motivated me to say screw quitting and instead started rolling my own,
    and I discovered vaping just in time to prevent em nailing taxes on my ryo:cool:
     
  10. rlorange

    rlorange Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2009
    Australia
    I have commented about this in another thread:

    1.Yes it is possible and quite easy, glue is a problem but if you use water to extract the nicotine not much glue will dissolve in the water (after all it is designed to stick to skin). With the correct combination of filtering and solvents the glue problem can be easily overcome.

    2. 21mg patches actually have more than 100mg of nicotine of which only 21mg is absorbed over 24hrs. So they are the best source especially if free.

    3. Using patches is the best way to monitor nicotine content of your DIY liquid but it is still risky.

    4.Nicotine inhalers are better for extraction as they have no glue and already come in a safe form. You will get 16mg from a 4mg inhaler. use don't even need a solvent, simply use PG as the solvent. Try putting the inhaler cores into PG (or VG) and then into a sealed glass vessel. Then warm it in a hot water bath for several hours before filtering the bits of core.

    5. This should only be attempted by someone with basic common sense and a little chemistry knowledge would help. I say grab the free patches and save them for the day the FDA bans e-smoking.
     
  11. rlorange

    rlorange Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2009
    Australia
    If you buy bulk NRT inhaler cartridges and PG you could very easily and safely make juice. 1-2 inhaler per ml of juice would not be too expensive. This and the patch method will be my "Plan B" when the authorities crack down... Might feel a bit pathetic and disparate tho, might just quit nicotine when that day comes.
     
  12. kinabaloo

    kinabaloo Vaping Master ECF Veteran

  13. jkenemore

    jkenemore New Member

    Apr 2, 2009
    What you mean is that nicotine is only evil when it is not sold buy a pharmaceutical company and/or paid for with your tax dollars and then dispensed by elite bureaucrats.
     
  14. green-lantern

    green-lantern Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2009
    This!


    For your 2nd post I rate it a 10 of 10!
     
  15. Boston George

    Boston George Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2009
    Rochester, NY
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