I wish everyone was like your friend. No limitations. Most people say I have $50 to spend what do I buy. LOL CHEERS!
friend wants to vape... but only got $150 to spend...
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The Invoking Endure Endura T18 is great for anyone that wants to try vaping, and its only $30.
So no ACTUAL reason then?
Just last year's emotional assumptions?
Subox mini kit is GREAT for a starter.
You need literally ZERO knowledge beyond buy a batt with at least 20 amps nominal... the higher the better.
Tapatyped
Just. So. Much. Wrong. In. This. Post.
Wrong meaning actually incorrect.
But this is pure BS.
I get it. Some of us don't do it your way... THE (only) right way.
P.S. The air flow, power and coils are all completely user adjustable on the sub tanks.
Unlike your pin hole nautilus, you won't have to take a drill to it if it's not exactly what you want.
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There's a man made canal that stems from the bottom of San Diego County up to the mountains over 600 miles north up route 5.
The subox kits are FAR FAR from max power.
Tapatyped
1. Personal preference. Not true in mine or my wife's case.
2. Haven't experienced that problem. Had the subox mini for a while now.
Tapatyped
Will have to agree to disagree. Someone just coming Off analogs it is better to have some thing that the vapor emulates an analog.
We want them to have every chancd of success instead of feeling as if they are being strangled by the vapor and send them running back to analogs they hate.
Just to add my 2 cents, i tried vaping about a year before i stuck with it. I had an ego c twist and a bs wick tank setup. I used it for about a 2 weeks in conjunction with still smoking cigs. Went back with the cigs for another year. Decided to pick up my subox and haven't looked at cigarettes since. The reason i haven't is because of the amount of vapor i can produce. It's far more satisfying to me to see the clouds. Just what worked for me. Different strokes for different folks, no need to start an "us" vs. "them" mentality. I believe the subox with a 1.2ohm occ coil and the wattage turned down will be perfect for someone not wanting to blow huge OMG clouds, but it also allows the person, that if they delve deeper into vaping, not have to shell out more money for a setup that will.
Like i said, just my 2 cents. My gf has her vape pen and loves it, i would lose interest if i ever used just a regular pen. The clouds helped me stick to it and i haven't had a cig since. We're all on the same team of quitting analogs, no matter which path we choose doing it.
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Like i said, just my 2 cents. My gf has her vape pen and loves it, i would lose interest if i ever used just a regular pen. The clouds helped me stick to it and i haven't had a cig since. We're all on the same team of quitting analogs, no matter which path we choose doing it.
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What is there to agree on?
Is "personal preference" that difficult to comprehend?
Is it better in your opinion to waste money on gear that's not flexible at all?
Or is it better to have adjustability?
Seriously?
Have you tried the subtanks?
Do you realize you can adjust the airflow?
Do you realize you can get heads @ 1.5 ohms or build your own coils on the INCLUDED deck?
Your argument holds no water.
There's nothing to disagree about.
Simple facts about the product make their case.
Tapatyped
Hi! I am about 4 weeks in, and I also would recommend the Kanger Nano or Mini. My husband and I got the nano, a friend of ours got the mini. Both were relatively easy for beginners.
Your friend could get one of those and some juice and still have some money leftover. It comes with different coils, and extra tanks aren't horribly expensive if your friend should like it.
Good luck!
Your friend could get one of those and some juice and still have some money leftover. It comes with different coils, and extra tanks aren't horribly expensive if your friend should like it.
Good luck!
I have one little issue with your post...
Your friend could get TWO of those and some juice and still have some money leftover.
Congrats on 4 weeks and thanks for your testimony.
SUBOX Mini Starter Kit $46.59 | Vaping Cheap
Kanger Subox Nano $39.95 | Vaping Cheap
LG 18650HE2 2500mAh
Tapatyped
Oh, I can READ alright. I lived and worked in California, in Silicon Valley between '00 and '03, tons of F-UPS. We had an employee who stored his urine in the refrigerator that we used for food. He use to drink it. And NO, I did not store food in it, but other Californians did.
You implied that in today's world there is some danger lurking with sub ohm vaping which is bull roar. Just get a 200/150/100/75/50 watt box mod that is regulated. No danger at all. Even you could operate it safely.
Yeah! kanger subox mini/nano. Great for beginners and if they decide to try subohm all they have to do is buy the appropriate coils.
Calm down. A sub ohm tank with a regulated mod is fine. As long as they aren't pusbjng super high watts with like a 0.1 ohm coil on a snow wolf at 200w when the chip just happens to fail and a short happens. A subox mini kit with a factory .5 ohm coil is not that dangerous. Idk why the word sub ohm scares everyone. It was only dangerous when everyone was building super low to boost the wattage on their mechs. Now we can boost wattage with a chip so its much safer.
Right. We want to help people kick the habit.
I recommend people that get a good mod they can use a year or more.
All I want is for people to start vaping that is comfortable for them. If they are still on analogs they may not be ready for big air.
I say emulate what you are used to. When they are ready for big air they only need to upgrade the tank for a tank with more air of or RTA.. This way newbies don't feel like they are being strangled by the vapor and sending them running back to the clearos and very limited airflow as my friend Cindy did.
I have helped Carrie, Jessica, Bill, and Jim kick cigarettes to the curb. Each one of them started with limited airflow emulating the air of a cigarette.
I REALLY learned this lesson. Cindy still won't accept my phone calls and emails go unanswered. The only reason I recommended the Subtank Nano was so she could rebuild the OCC heads if the Govt did something stupid.
We can agree that we disagree. First time I ever had to explain the phrase "agree to disagree".
Not at all. Some people like big airflow. Others tootle along. All I am saying is give them the best chance to quit cigarettes. Most people just coming off the Stinkies are NOT READY for big air and big vapor where they feel as if they are drowning. I have helped four people kick the Stinkies to the curb, and every one of them started with the airflow that emulated a cigarette. As their vaping style changes they upgraded the tank when they were ready on their schedule not mine.
All I am saying is don't throw them in the deep end of the pool before they can swim!
It is better for them to start vaping where they are comfortable instead of throwing them in the deep end before they can swim. If they have to replace a tank when they are ready for more airflow than throw them into big air and they feel as if they are drowning and send them running back to the Stinkies they hate.
YES I used the Subtank Nano! I even rebuilt the OCC heads for months before going onto RDAs and then onto the RTAs I use today
YES I know it has adjustable airflow. But closing the AFC ring to a small pinhole still had too much airflow for a true mouth to lung hit. And fully open it didn't have enough airflow for a true lung hit. That is why I moved onto RDAs for better flavor and more airflow.
YES I know you can get OCC heads in different resistance. When I used the Nano, the resistances was .5 and 1.2.
My friend Cindy felt as if she was drowning from the airflow and the vapor of the Subtank Nano no matter what she did, and went running back to the clearomisers with Ego batteries.
It's been six months and she still won't answer my emails or accept my phone calls.
Apparently you have the idea live with more airflow and vapor thsn you can handle until you get used to it. That will send smokers running back to the Stinkies and thinking all vapers are insane.
It is much better to have them upgrade a tank in a couple of months than send them running back to the Stinkies.
These assertions are ridiculous.
They all depend on the assumption that everyone is or is like your friend Cindy. I have a Nautilus your friend Cindy can have. Just let me know where to send it.
I have totally supported the transition for...
Dan
Kimberly
John
Challie
Andrew
Marian
On the money in my banner...
I've also helped to switch...
Chris
Scott
Jim
Tom
Lil
Juan
Amber
Terrence
Kim
3 Co workers who's name I never remember
2 of my wife's Co workers
Random truckers across the country
Though I don't get the point of naming names.
Just last week I helped a couple quitters working the fuel desk at a loves truck stop. He had PIF'd his isticks and ProTanks to her.
She was having problems getting a hit. Draw too tight and not enough vapor. She turned up the istick too high and burnt her juice in the head. I showed her how to pull the pin and release the pressure on the insulator so it wouldn't pancake and cut off the air flow. Then I told her to try to keep it at 11 watts or lower until she could get a topper that could handle more.
Meanwhile, he was running a tug something dual parallel box with twisted messes RDA. Didn't have the first clue about his gear. Vape shop built his coil and sold him some thick gplat wire and single sheets of koh Gen do. It was ramping up instantly and burning his cotton on every hit.
I used his kuro coiler to make him a new coil with more wraps.
Then I got my gear out of the truck and showed him how to stretch and wrap koh Gen do for his application, gave him a build box so he could check his resistance, pointed him towards decent batteries that weren't vape shop rewraps, sent him a link to an ohms law calculator and left my number should he ever need assistance.
My wife's 2 Subtank minis don't agree with your assertions on how the airflow works... or that the subox won't allow you to adjust the input for less vapor.
Either way, the subox kits allow a LARGE RANGE OF adjustability that would allow MOST vapers to go from day one probably through their entire vaping experience and be satisfied.
It also JUST WORKS.
I personally spent too many months trying to make inconsistent quality of ProTanks and protank heads work without a hitch. Had I not been determined, I would have quit. After drilling, rebuilding, replacing the grommet with another material, etc, the ProTanks were still not putting out enough for me.
It was the most stressful months of my life.
I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
Point blank and period... what you're asserting/assuming isn't going to work for everyone either...
NOTHING WILL.
So please step off the high horse and down from the soap box. The assertions and assumptions are incorrect. Nobody needs them force fed.
K? Thx.
P.S. Maybe it's time to let Cindy be. A simple case of the wrong gear doesn't lead to what you're explaining without A LOT more to the story. Dunno what was done to her. But apparently she didn't like it.
Tapatyped
Istick 50 (good to start, a bit of room to grow), subtank mini (cheap, readily available, RBA option which I highly recommend for budget vaping), juice, good to go for less than $150.
Keep it simple.
Keep it simple.
Lol, i've been on BMW forums for years, funny to see the same drama here as well.
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