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......please give serious consideration to using a bigger batt model and fill your own cartomizers..........
madjack:2cool:

You are going to keep beating your head against a wall until you get batteries with a minimum 650 mAh rating and learn how to fill your own cartos. It is just so simple.

The poor ""frustrated" OP has purchased only mini battery models and except for madjack and Keys (sorry if I missed someone) most everyone is saying just stick with those mini battery models. I wonder if an E-Power, Kgo, Riva or 5 volt GLV2 might be less frustrating as Keys and madjack inferred. Statistically, I would go with the higher percentage of what works better in the long run. Good advice from most everyone on learning to fill your own blank cartos, however.
 
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I usually recommend an E-Power and boge cartomizers to anyone who looks like they going to stick with vaping as a first purchase. A provari would be better and save money in the long run but that's a big outlay of cash.
For someone who is confused and overwhelmed with the bewildering number of choices and advice a cheap but usable e-cig may be a good way to get started. Using something they can buy locally with pre filled cartomizers will get them started. Then if they want to continue they can go and order some juice to refill those cartos. We have to remember that not everyone has the time or motivation to do the kind of research it takes to make sense out of this.
 

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Whatever works to be successful is the RIGHT system. Some believe from the start off of a convenience store e-cig. Some that try those are hard set against anything working afterwards. The key is to believe it will work and find the PV that backs it up!

My first made me a believer, and since I've stepped it up, I KNOW there's no going back.

To ALL still looking . . . keep trying . . . you'll get there!!
 

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I'm new to this too. I bought a Njoy from a local gas station for $20. Used it consistently for 4 days now, so far no need to recharge yet. I'm not a chain smoker, I take about 15 puffs and put it away, 2 to 3 times a day. Found videos on how to fill the carts on youtube and have not had an issue. I use the "Cap" method. Also when I know I'm going to put it away for a while, I put the caps back on, so the juice wont dry out. Using my own e-juice is what made it worth it for me.

From what I've read (please comment if you've experienced different results) Bloog batteries are regulated. The heat will remain at a consistent temperature whether the battery is freshly charged or almost depleted. You have a really nice slim battery, just need a decent menthol recommendation...
 

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I'm new to this too. I bought a Njoy from a local gas station for $20. Used it consistently for 4 days now, so far no need to recharge yet. I'm not a chain smoker, I take about 15 puffs and put it away, 2 to 3 times a day. Found videos on how to fill the carts on youtube and have not had an issue. I use the "Cap" method. Also when I know I'm going to put it away for a while, I put the caps back on, so the juice wont dry out. Using my own e-juice is what made it worth it for me.

I can relate, I use on average 1-2ml of liquid daily. Besides wanting more flavor per puff I haven't found a reason to break out my wallet for a device that costs the same as a small computer. Oh, if you have the hard capped carts and you're comfortable with pulling them apart (wiggle and the plastic shell will slide off) you'll waste less juice in the long run and those carts will last longer because the juice is not weakening the center wick tube as much.

I burnt out a few njoy carts before I realized I can just pull it apart, dry out the old liquid with a tissue (without lotion) and drop the liquid until it looks like the beginning of slush...
 

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A $30 ego, low resistance cartomizers and some decent juice is all you really need to get started vaping and keep at it.

Listen to this Lady, she knows her stuff.

It is going to be hard for you to find a "cigarette style" eCig that meets your needs, not because they aren't out there, more because there are so many bad ones. If you are stuck on staying with "slim" eCigs then do your research and listen to those on here that recommend slim eCigs by brand and link. As SweedishFish wrote, eGo is good: Joyetech electronic cigarette Tank System Changeable System eGo-C eGo-T 510-T e-Liquid

On the other hand, if you are okay getting something a bit bigger - like a sharpie pen size - you should go with something like this: KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit Great price, and great performance.

Also, I smoke menthol and got a Pig Cig from LeCig (pricey!) but their LeLiquid is good and inexpensive. They're menthol is my all-day eJuice. LeLiquid by LeCig - Menthol Flavor They sell pre-filed cartomizers and by the bottle.

Luck!
 
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The poor ""frustrated" OP has purchased only mini battery models and except for madjack and Keys (sorry if I missed someone) most everyone is saying just stick with those mini battery models. I wonder if an E-Power, Kgo, Riva or 5 volt GLV2 might be less frustrating as Keys and madjack inferred. Statistically, I would go with the higher percentage of what works better in the long run. Good advice from most everyone on learning to fill your own blank cartos, however.
Well-- Yes. BUT, the OP specifically stated what the problem was and asked how to fix it. He/she said she was fine with her rig, but not fine with the taste of the replacement cartos.
Then, it seemed (to me, at least) everybody started in with replacing the rig entirely (me included).
What's a Noob to think?
 

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Actually, the vapor will taste "better" with bigger batteries. So, her rig could be part of the problem....

Well-- Yes. BUT, the OP specifically stated what the problem was and asked how to fix it. He/she said she was fine with her rig, but not fine with the taste of the replacement cartos.
Then, it seemed (to me, at least) everybody started in with replacing the rig entirely (me included).
What's a Noob to think?
 

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Actually, the vapor will taste "better" with bigger batteries. So, her rig could be part of the problem....
Well, her batteries will last longer, that's for sure. And that was something else the OP wanted. But, I'm pretty sure that Bloogs are regulated, so it's not really a matter of consistency, I would guess?
Believe me, I'm the first one to recommend a better battery- if I had my way, I'd be vaping a Provari right now with a HUGE battery.
But if I thought I could get by on a certain eCig save for the flavor issues, it would be an easier fix.
 

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Well-- Yes. BUT, the OP specifically stated what the problem was and asked how to fix it. He/she said she was fine with her rig, but not fine with the taste of the replacement cartos.
Then, it seemed (to me, at least) everybody started in with replacing the rig entirely (me included).
What's a Noob to think?

Here is what the op is asking for.
Here is what I want:
Menthol that is truly a nice menthol flavor but doesn't choke you to death. I normally smoke camel silvers (menthol with the crushable flavor bead) I like menthol and don't care for the other flavors at all.

Cartridges with a built in atomizer. I know many of you love to refill but I don't want to mess with that.

Batteries that perform decently. I don't expect days of use out of one charge but I do expect fairly good usage before dying.

Some sort of on the go charging pack.

Good customer service, good shipping and once I find the right ecig, I want to know the next time I order the same thing....... I'll get the same thing!
 

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I'm new to this too. I bought a Njoy from a local gas station for $20. Used it consistently for 4 days now, so far no need to recharge yet. I'm not a chain smoker, I take about 15 puffs and put it away, 2 to 3 times a day. Found videos on how to fill the carts on youtube and have not had an issue. I use the "Cap" method. Also when I know I'm going to put it away for a while, I put the caps back on, so the juice wont dry out. Using my own e-juice is what made it worth it for me.

I've recommended a Volt or Bloog to a very light smoker/vaper like you. It could be all they need. Unfortunately, you are not the typical smoker. Most need much more.
 

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Well-- Yes. BUT, the OP specifically stated what the problem was and asked how to fix it. He/she said she was fine with her rig, but not fine with the taste of the replacement cartos.
Then, it seemed (to me, at least) everybody started in with replacing the rig entirely (me included).
What's a Noob to think?

I re-read her post and you have a good point. Maybe a slim will work for her. But if she does take to vaping, I would bet money she will next find those batteries frustrating also.
 

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Well, her batteries will last longer, that's for sure. And that was something else the OP wanted. But, I'm pretty sure that Bloogs are regulated, so it's not really a matter of consistency, I would guess?
Believe me, I'm the first one to recommend a better battery- if I had my way, I'd be vaping a Provari right now with a HUGE battery.
But if I thought I could get by on a certain eCig save for the flavor issues, it would be an easier fix.

Low resistance cartomizers are different from SR cartomizers. To me it's closest to the a cigarette experience. They can't be used on a small battery. You do get a much better vape with it.

I recommend the ego for several reasons. Cost, value, a better vape. It's fatter but not really any longer than a 510 or KR808. Cost- egos are cheaper than KR808's or 510 for a basic kit. Value because you don't need as many batteries and the batteries you do have last longer because they aren't charged as frequently. Better vape, as I said because you can use LR cartomizers.
 

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Well from one granny....to another granny....

You have gotten quite a few suggestions from alot of experienced people.

So here's my 2 cents worth.

This is not going to be as easy as walking into the 7-11 and getting your favorite cig.

But the benefits are so worth the trial and errors that you are going to have to go thru.

It is just part of finding out what suits YOU

So just bite the bullet and try getting you a stronger battery unit.
It will be well worth it.
Battery power is a big part of the satisfaction you will
obtain and that requires a little larger unit than what you have been using. When you
get a larger battery, then more than likely you will get the longer battery time that you
are wanting as well. Another thing about larger battery units...is the power to give
you a "throat hit". Menthol smokers IMO are looking for that little throat tingle that
menthol gives us. Your not gonna get that with the small battery units.
For me.... I bypassed all the typcial suggested starter units and went straight into
the big guns.....a Provape1. (You know how us Texans are....the want everything big)
Not saying you need to go there right now...just letting you know what I did.

And believe me, power does mean alot in the vaping thing. A whole lot more than
you can ever understand....until you try one. Then you'll just smile...and love it.
I promise. We're just trying to help ya....we have been there and done that.

Then get cartomizers. You can fill one up and if you want, you can fill several at one time and
that can get you by for a couple of days. Then simply pop a top off and drop more juice in
put the cap on and go on. Very simple and a whole lot better juice and better quality and
less expensive and most important....consistent taste.

Now comes the hardest part.....the juice.
Your gonna have to spend a little time, effort and a little money to find out what pleases you
and gives you the satisfaction you want. You buy small trial bottles, from SEVERAL vendorsand see if you hit on what pleases you. No one can tell you what you will like...only your taste buds and your senses will know what you derive satisfaction from.

I was a 35 yr menthol smoker and I have tried about 50 or more menthol juices. None of them
really duplicated the menthol smoke that I was use to. If I sorta got a menthol taste there was
not much of a tobacco taste. But I bought, tried, tossed many in the trash and kept on trying. I was determined that I was gonna quit the analogs as they were slowly killing me and keeping me very unhealthy.

I never found the "right menthol" out there for me. But from reading here and learning, I found
out that alot of menthol smokers use.....(here goes).....cinnamon to help in the menthol taste department.... Yea.....I didn't believe it either.
But I was desperate and ordered me some.

Well it's been almost 9 months now.......and for me, it's the cinnamon...tobacco combo that worked.
I love it. I vape only that combo. I do have to mix a cinnamon juice from one vendor and a tobacco juice from another vendor, but that takes me about 1 minute to mix up enough for 2 days. Well worth the little tiny extra time.

So....from my long winded 2 cents worth, I hope that I have given you some additional thoughts to
ponder. This vaping thing is not a cake walk to get going. But when you get it going...
it is gonna be one of the best things that will ever happen to you.

If you ever need any help, just pm me and I will gladly walk you thru anything that I can.

Read my sig below....it does work....and I cannot tell you how much better I feel nowdays.

So all the headaches and pains that I went thru.....at first........was well worth the results.
 
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swedishfish - since you brought it up, at the risk of hijacking this thread, and OP hasn't been back :-( - we seem to have the same tastes, but you are far more experienced than me. I was wondering when/if the resistance vs. battery cancels itself out?
Maybe I should have started a new thread...

I'm not really sure about resistance vs battery. There are tons of experts on the stuff here.

I just know that I personally get a more satisfying vape with a low resistance cartomizer. Like the boge 2.0 or the single coil 1.7 smoktek. You can definitely notice the difference. I have used and like dual coil but my preferred cartos are really the 1.7 or boge 2.0.
 

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High resistence cartos or atty's on 3.7 V batteries are not good on battery and battery have not enough to power those well. Double coils too

1.5 to 2.0 Ohm LR are good on 3.7 ego type batts and cartos and atty with 3.0 ohm or higher are good on 5 volt and above or VV mods. Also for the double coil cartos too.
 
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I was wondering when/if the resistance vs. battery cancels itself out?
I'm not sure what this means but you could say that for me it's five watts. I mix my juice so it would taste best at that level so it may not apply to anyone else. As long as the carto coil stays wet you will just keep getting more vapor as you increase the power. It's all a matter of personal taste.

here's how it works.
The more power a battery sends to the coil the more juice that can be vaporized.
power = watts
More volts = more watts = more hit and vapor.
Lower ohms = more watts = more hit and vapor.

Using more watts will also drain your battery faster.

With the same voltage you will get a lot more hit and smoke with a 2.0 ohm cartomizer than with a 3.0 ohm cartomizer. To say a battery gives good smoke and hit doesn't really mean anything. It the combination of battery votlage and cartomizer ohms that matters.
 
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