Galenova brand PG poisonous?

[Tattz]

So I just got home with a 500ml bottle of Galenova brand USP PG CAS# 57-55-6 that I ordered through a local compounding pharmacy, and it comes with an MSD label that has the poisonous symbol and the following written verbatim:

"WARNING: EYE, SKIN, LUNG IRRITANT. AVOID ALL CONTACT. First AID: EYES, SKIN: rinse with water. INHALATION: Remove to fresh air. Give oxygen if necessary. INGESTION: Induce vomiting. CONSULT PHYSICIAN. REFER TO MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET."

From all my research into e-cigs and specifically on propylene glycol, I have yet to find any findings that this compound is in any way harmful to humans, I mean, it's damn-near impossible to even get averse effects from this. Anyone know anything about this specific brand and whether or not I should worry? Thanks you in advance for your help guys.

 

[Ictinike]

I think you've found something other than PG (Propylene glycol) because searching MSDS on their website shows something completely different than you've posted there..

I went to View a MSDS and searched for "Propylene glycol (EN) (PR390"

It seems I can't link the PDF nor copy and paste the Section 2 hazards but I'm thinking you either don't have PG for vaping in your hands -or- you chose the wrong thing on the MSDS search.

 

[markfm]

The CAS #57-55-6 matches standard propylene glycol USP. If the bottle indeed asserts it is PG USP, no other ingredients, I would not worry. (over-zealous warnings)

For example, see: http://www.dudadiesel.com/msds/propyleneglycolI.pdf

 

[Ictinike]

Since I type quick here is what they have for the Hazzards.

Sorry if I miss type a few things but..

[EDIT] I opened up the HTML source and found the link to the direct PDF..
http://toxyscansoftware.com/data/022408.pdf

Section 2. Hazards Identifications

Physical state: liquid
Warning: Slightly hazardous in case of eye contact (irritant), of inhalation. Non-irritant for skin.
Routes of entry: Ingestion.

Potential acute effects

Eyes: May cause minor irritation.
Skin: Brief contact is not irritating. Prolonged contact as with clothing wet with material may cause defeating of skin or irritation, seen as local redness with possible mild discomfort.
Inhalation: Vapors or mist in unusually high concentrations, as from exposure in poorly ventilated areas or confined spaces, may cause irritation of the nose and throat, headache, nausea and drowsiness.
Ingestion: No significant sings of symptoms indicative of any adverse health effect are expected as a result of ingestion. If more than several mouthfuls are swallowed, abdominal discomfort, nausea, and ........ may occur.

DO NOT use whatever you have before you check what it really is.. Please..

 

[markfm]

Check with the pharmacy. If they can tell you that it really is propylene glycol USP, CAS#57-55-6, that actually is the proper item.

http://www.inchem.org/documents/sids/sids/57-55-6.pdf gives slightly better insight. At the bottom of page 3, top of page 4, under Exposure, it lists common uses -- that is the PG we use.

 

[Tattz]

Ictinike and markfm, thanks for the feedback. The code of PR390-500 is on the label of the bottle too, I think we're talking about the same things. It sais USP on it as well, as well as not listing any other ingredients aside from the big "Propylene Glycol" on the bottle. My thoughts are that these warnings might be more for possible allergic reactions, now that I think of it. Would such reactions need to be listed under an MSDS label too? Irritation to skin, eyes, nose, and lungs are common in allergic reactions to PG. What think you guys? This is really weird and fishy as all the identifiable numbers and info you guys are showing me are identical on this bottle, but the warnings are clearly worded very differently as far as averse effects. I'm also in canada, do you think that the regulations here might want to raise the ante on possible side effects in the wordings of these labels? Just a few thoughts...

Oh also, I had it ordered through the pharmacy, and they ordered Propylene Glycol. It's exactly as what I asked of them, didn't order it online myself. Also the label I'm talking about is on the physical bottle itself. Just clearing some things up.

 

[Spazmelda]

Here's the problem... Products - Galenova - Pharmaceutical Products, Equipment and Supplies

It's porpylene glycol instead of propylene glycol. Lol. I'm kidding, just a funny misspelling on their page.

I dunno.

 

[filter]

probably because you are in canada. in the US, the FDA considers PG as GRAS (generally recognized as safe). it is used in foods, beauty products, cigar humidors, and a whole lot of other stuff. i think you're fine.

 

[Tattz]

I figured that was a possibility too, but I erred on the side of safety, knowing that this forum has some seriously well documented people. Nothing irks me more than this labelling, if its the case, it's a really over-the-top and unnecessary label?

 

[filter]

that is the only thing that bothers me about canada. labeling. in the US we can take all the supplements we want they just have to say 'not intended to diagnose, treat, cure any disease'. canada limits supplements (and energy drink ingredients) bigtime and then writes the opposite, it says that it is medicinal. that and they often label high fructose corn syrup as glucose-fructose.

 

[Tattz]

I wouldn't opt for either extreme. There are many ingredients in consumables in the United States that are not good for you and are not labelled or mislabeled via many-a-loophole. There is certainly a police state mentality here in Canada, where we can't even get nic juice in a non-clandestine fashion. When I went to the pharmacy to even get the PG, even the owner was unusually nosy, as if I was trying to cook .... with it or something, asking questions, acting weird towards me and so on. In either case, this specific example with the PG is something I'd rather be safe than sorry about, which is why I asked about it here.

 

[Spazmelda]

High fructose corn syrup is fructose glucose. The HFCS guys messed up big time by not naming it something like that to begin with..

 

[markfm]

It was a perfectly fine question, absolutely appropriate to ask

 

[Spazmelda]

It was a perfectly fine question, absolutely appropriate to ask

Agreed. The warning label would definitely make me want to seek assurances.

 

[Tattz]

So do you guys think it's safe to try? I mean at worst I'm out 15 bucks, that's not an issue, but I wanted to do pg/vg mixtures because I really like the antibacterial properties of PG, and its ability to hold and deliver more flavor from what I've read.

 

[markfm]

The label says pg usp, and has the proper cas number? If it is a clear liquid, relatively thin (about like water), I would use it. Pharmacies are generally careful places, and it sounds like you got what was asked for.

(simpler where I live, picked up a gallon at a tractor supply store for $20, no questions)

 

[Tattz]

Yep, relatively thin clear liquid. It has a slight alcohol-y smell to it, which from what I've read is typical. It's exactly as mentioned. I'll give it a shot and I'll keep everyone in the loop. Thanks again to all for your input, this forum is a priceless resource. Much love and happy vaping