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DannyBoyJaros

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Hello i'm new to this forums and so far i like it.
i had an e-cig called the "nuvocig" NUVO cig | The Healthier Alternative To Smoking
i hated it, i got 4 brand new atomizers and all four broke in a day!
i wasn't smoking it to fast and made sure it didn't over heat, its just a piece of crap.
so, i ordered a Joye 510, because i read that it is a good e-cig.
i wanted to know how to store an ecig when not in use,
should i leave the cart on or off when its not in use? and do you think the Joye 510 is a better e-cig.
and has anyone else tried the nuvocig, they are usually at mall kiosks.

thanks :)
 

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Welcome to ECF!

You can leave the cart on when you store it. I always did and it never hurt anything. The 510 is a far superior e-cig to the Nuvo and far cheaper considering what comes with a 510 starter kit. The only thing I would recommend more than a regular 510 is a KR808D-1. I think their batteries last longer between charges and the vapor is a little better. The 510 is still an awesome kit, so don't get me wrong. You're doing yourself a BIG favor by getting one!
 

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In the end, you will wind up storing it any way that works for you.
But you'll need some time to figure all that out.

And most likely, it will not be "not in use" very often unless you are sleeping.
:)

That NUVOcig looks like a cartomizer model though.
If it was using cartridges, then I might have some advice to offer.

But since I don't have much experience with cartomizers, I will let others answer.
 

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I think what DC was trying to say is that it doesn't look like your Nuvo uses attys. It looks like a 2-piece e-cig that uses cartomizers and not the atomizers with cartridges. I know the website refers to them as cartridges, but that's not completely right. Cartomizers are the atomizer and cartridge all in one piece. When you say it died, did it smell burnt, did it just stop working, or were you not getting any vapor when you tried to use it?
 

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Check out the accessories section of their site... it's a 3 piece. DBJ, I started on a crappy "free trial" ripoff stick (actually, I got taken far, far worse than you did), and then got my first "real" PV, a Joye 510. You'll love it. Don't try to get all complicated at first; just get used to your 510, then branch out one step at a time. The answers to all of your questions can be found right here on ECF.

As far as storing it... well, you're probably going to have the standard Batty/Atty/Cart setup (Battery - Atomizer - Cartridge). You can store it pretty much any old which-a-way. Just remember that:

Manual Batteries -- don't put it somewhere where the switch is likely to be accidentally pressed. Breast pocket = usually ok. Jeans pocket = not so good an idea.

Automatic Batteries -- sometimes get activated by loud noise or vibration. Also, don't overfill your carts with automatic batteries... a leaking atomizer can get fluid into an automatic and cause the battery to short. If in doubt, store automatics battery up / cartridge down when you're not using them.
 

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There are lots of rebranders who take various Chinese models (some of which are only sold by wholesalers to rebranders) and sell them in their own look and logo, sometimes with outrageously jacked up prices and/or carts/cartos that are harder to refill on purpose.

And then there are rebranders who do it nicely and sell unmodified popular models in their own look and colors, for reasonable prices and they sell blank carts and cartos - they are not trying to locl you in t buying only from them.

Mall kiosks are usually the first type.

Nuvo looks somewhat respectable but charges almost 2x what filled carts should be and they lie about how long a cart lasts. Their batteries are at least normal price (not $50 like some rebranders). It appears to be a 3-piece model but it is hard to tell what kind.
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Check out the accessories section of their site... it's a 3 piece.
Wow, it is a 3-piece model, ummmm, duh me...

So yeah, it must be a model with an exposed bridge, like a 306 or more likely a 401/402/403 model.
I'll have to keep in mind that they look like cartomizers.
:)

So here's a post I made awhile back...

DC2 said:
I have definitely observed that juice flows in whichever direction gravity takes it.

If you leave your cartridge attached for a long period of time without using it, like overnight, then I think you may experience one of the following two issues...

1) Leave it sitting cartridge side up and you might flood the atomizer overnight
2) Leave it sitting battery side up and you might have no juice for your morning vape

I always blow out my atomizer every morning and clean the battery connections with a tissue.
This takes about 20 seconds and one single square of toilet paper.

And then I know I have all the old juice out of there.
And I put about 4 drops in to start the day.

Works GREAT for me.
 

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thanks for all the reply's, but i'm just wondering why my attys die so fast is there anything common that can break them?
Most likely they aren't all broken, because that doesn't make much sense.
I am guessing they are getting flooded, and you only think they are broken.

Can you tell us more (a lot more) about what you did and what happened when you did it?

We've all been where you are, so we can give you a lot of insight with more information.
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Most likely they aren't all broken, because that doesn't make much sense.
I am guessing they are getting flooded, and you only think they are broken.

Can you tell us more (a lot more) about what you did and what happened when you did it?

We've all been where you are, so we can give you a lot of insight with more information.
:)

yes, i got the nuvocig and got 4 attys and 2 battery's (cause the first atty was completely broken so they gave me free stuff)
and i was vaping with the brand new atty and it just started giving less and less vape, and now only gives one or 2 good puffs before giving nothing so i put on a new atty, and it did the same thing, and so did the third. my girlfriend has the 4th and the spare battery so i don't know how that is working
-and the batteries are always full charge
 

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sorry for the double post but i kinda figured it might be a simple as the cart so i opened a new cart and one of my attys started working again, but the other is broken beyond repair, so i ripped it apart to see the internals it looks verry flimsy. but i still have one atty that gives like one or two puffs then just dies
 

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sorry for the double post but i kinda figured it might be a simple as the cart so i opened a new cart and one of my attys started working again, but the other is broken beyond repair, so i ripped it apart to see the internals it looks verry flimsy. but i still have one atty that gives like one or two puffs then just dies

Sounds like dry carts to me. When one "dies", let it sit for a few minutes with the cart on the atty, and try again. Maybe the atty isn't wicking very well....

Ok, basics here. The cart holds the juice. When you connect it to the atomizer (atty), the filler holding the juice comes into contact with the bridge of the atty (if you look down into the atomizer, you should see the bridge sticking up in the center of it). The atty, if it's standard, looks like it's made of mesh... that's a foamed form of nickel, and it draws the juice onto it. Under the bridge is a cup holding the coil; the coil has a wick running through it that goes out into the foamed nickel. Sooooo..... the juice goes from cart to bridge to wick before it reaches the coil to kill the cat that ate the rat that vaped in the house that Jack built :)

If you're vaping a lot in a short period of time, you could be hitting it too fast for the wicking action to keep the coil wet with juice. A dry coil will burn out (dead). Let it set a while between drags and see if giving the coil time to 're-wick' helps; also, check your carts and make sure they're not too dry. Unscrupulous sites will tell you a cart = x many packs of smokes, and that's total BS. If I still used carts, I'd go through at least 7 a day.

The opposite, flooding an atomizer, is when there's too much juice and the atty is too wet. This will also result in no vapor production, but is accompanied by a gurgling sound and usually juice leaking all over. If this is the case, just take the atty off the battery and blow out the excess juice into a paper towel.

Also, remember this is vaping, not smoking. Long, slow drags are the rule... lots of newbies (myself included, once) think they're stuff is broken because you don't get much vapor when you drag on a PV as fast and hard as you would an analog.

Hope that helps....
 

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Sounds like dry carts to me. When one "dies", let it sit for a few minutes with the cart on the atty, and try again. Maybe the atty isn't wicking very well....

Ok, basics here. The cart holds the juice. When you connect it to the atomizer (atty), the filler holding the juice comes into contact with the bridge of the atty (if you look down into the atomizer, you should see the bridge sticking up in the center of it). The atty, if it's standard, looks like it's made of mesh... that's a foamed form of nickel, and it draws the juice onto it. Under the bridge is a cup holding the coil; the coil has a wick running through it that goes out into the foamed nickel. Sooooo..... the juice goes from cart to bridge to wick before it reaches the coil to kill the cat that ate the rat that vaped in the house that Jack built :)

If you're vaping a lot in a short period of time, you could be hitting it too fast for the wicking action to keep the coil wet with juice. A dry coil will burn out (dead). Let it set a while between drags and see if giving the coil time to 're-wick' helps; also, check your carts and make sure they're not too dry. Unscrupulous sites will tell you a cart = x many packs of smokes, and that's total BS. If I still used carts, I'd go through at least 7 a day.

The opposite, flooding an atomizer, is when there's too much juice and the atty is too wet. This will also result in no vapor production, but is accompanied by a gurgling sound and usually juice leaking all over. If this is the case, just take the atty off the battery and blow out the excess juice into a paper towel.

Also, remember this is vaping, not smoking. Long, slow drags are the rule... lots of newbies (myself included, once) think they're stuff is broken because you don't get much vapor when you drag on a PV as fast and hard as you would an analog.

Hope that helps....

thanks for the info, i kinda figured after a while it might be the cart and i know the basics of e-cigs, but thanks for describing all the basics my brother wanted to know about e-cigs and i didn't know exactly how to explain it lol
 
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