Gennys Leaking

[Salvatore.95]

Hello, I like many of you love genesis atomizers; but hate the leaking. I'm looking for the cure to the problem. if you close the fill hole it barley wicks, if you leave it open it leaks everywhere.... does anyone have a solution? i have a kraken on the way and i want to take out, i don't want to keep her house bound thanks for the help.

 

[emus]

Not a beauty but it produces a very high quality vape and is suitable for watch pocket carry.
https://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10003924/1330500-cobra-genesis-style-rebuildable-atomizer-3-5ml
Screw top won't pop.
I've been abusing mine for a few months and still works perfect.
My 22mm RTAs can't compete w/ vapor quality.
Maybe a higher quality beautiful version is available?

 

[emus]

My favorite IGO-F is suitable for pocket carry.
It's a beauty and my vapor quality gold standard.
Need to carry a bottle of juice though.
Integrated drip tip makes it very sturdy.
Youde IGO-F - 101 Vape

 

[Salvatore.95]

its not really the cone on top that causes the problem its the juice coming out of the fill hole

 

[emus]

Deck fill hole can be loosely stuffed w/ cotton wick and will side lay for a while w/o leaking.
Pocket gremlins make RBA leak at fastest possible rate unless carry upright.

I pocket carry IGO-F and FT cobra all the time w/o issue. I have an altoids case to hold em upright but mostly carry in watch pocket w/o tin. Cobra, IGO-F, and 5 ml dripper bottle are thin enough for altoids tin fit.

 

[ConradM]

I just try to leave plenty of space in the wick hole. With the plug in I get good wicking with cotton, mesh or silica.

 

[metamorpheus]

Try stuffing a small piece of cotton between the pos post and the wick, that seems to mop up the excess on the deck. I actually did this with my RSST using degummed hemp fiber last night and it hasn't leaked since. Now it's a weird hybrid of XC-132 wrapped in mesh and sandwiched on top with hemp but the flavor is amazing.

 

[Rule62]

Gennys are liable to leak. It's the nature of the beast. They may leak a lot, a little, or not at all; depending on factors such as the size of the fill hole, size of the wick, in relation to the wick hole, tightness or looseness of the roll of the mesh. The point is, gennys are not reliably leak free. The best way to keep them from leaking is to keep the mod that they are on upright. It's not a problem for me; and for me, it's worth it. But if you need a device that you can toss in a purse, or carry upside down in your pocket, or lay down on a table, gennys might not be the right choice for you. One of the vacuum feed type devices might be a better choice.

 

[EDO]

Honestly for me gennies are leak free devices..... as long as you remember that you have to plug the fill hole and make your wicks (cotton, silica or SS mesh) in a way so that they are a little smaller than your wick hole so air can go into the tank from the wick hole. I have been vaping gennies for a while now and I never have leaking problems and I lay them on their side exclusively. As long as the wick is smaller than your wick hole you shouldn't have leaking or wicking issues if you plug your fill hole.

With my Kraken I do the opposite I make cotton wicks thick enough to effectively pretty much plug the wick holes and then I use a toothpick to plug the fill hole. But the toothpick is basically shaved in half so when you look at it from above it is like a D and not a full circle. Because the tootpick is shaved, air can still get into the tank but no liquid gets out... ever. Either way works great.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

Honestly for me gennies are leak free devices..... as long as you remember that you have to plug the fill hole and make your wicks (cotton, silica or SS mesh) in a way so that they are a little smaller than your wick hole so air can go into the tank from the wick hole. I have been vaping gennies for a while now and I never have leaking problems and I lay them on their side exclusively. As long as the wick is smaller than your wick hole you shouldn't have leaking or wicking issues if you plug your fill hole.

With my Kraken I do the opposite I make cotton wicks thick enough to effectively pretty much plug the wick holes and then I use a toothpick to plug the fill hole. But the toothpick is basically shaved in half so when you look at it from above it is like a D and not a full circle. Because the tootpick is shaved, air can still get into the tank but no liquid gets out... ever. Either way works great.

hey, so love the tips, i have 2 aga t2s on the way, and would absolutely love to get em set and going to work with me... however im in the army and my svd sits in my cargo pocket on its side most of the day, so my aga would be sideways, i think the first set up im going to run on the aga is the cotton u wick (not sure why they call it a u wick, its more like a n wick...) should i use a cotton u wick thick enough to plug the wick holes and leave the fill screw in or out? any ideas would be great, not sure if a toothpick would work if its a different size or what not, and if so im gonna have to go get a toothpick, lol

 

[Vaslovik]

It might help if you told us what genny you are using. I use an RSST as my all day vape, and I found that the positive post needed a better seal than it came with. For this I used the spare positive post insulator that came with my AGA T2. It was a much better seal against leaking and completely eliminated leakage. I'm quite happy with it now.

 

[WattWick]

Depending on liquid viscosity, ambient temperature and some unknown metaphysical phenomenon, you may find that the Kraken may leak less than your average gennie. The fill hole is quite small compared to many. Quite clever, if I can say so. It doesn't take a huge hole to prevent negative pressure in the tank.

Mind you, it's not 100% leak proof in all conditions with all kinds of liquids. A snug wick will help, tho.

 

[EDO]

hey, so love the tips, i have 2 aga t2s on the way, and would absolutely love to get em set and going to work with me... however im in the army and my svd sits in my cargo pocket on its side most of the day, so my aga would be sideways, i think the first set up im going to run on the aga is the cotton u wick (not sure why they call it a u wick, its more like a n wick...) should i use a cotton u wick thick enough to plug the wick holes and leave the fill screw in or out? any ideas would be great, not sure if a toothpick would work if its a different size or what not, and if so im gonna have to go get a toothpick, lol

As long as the hole that the liquid can escape from the tank and the hole that the air can get into the tank are the same you won't have a leaking genny. Ofcourse this hole has to be pretty small. So if you keep that in mind your can do all types of setups on the genny that won't leak...I gave a couple examples in my previous post. Some gennies have huge fill holes...when that happens I plug the fill hole and make my wick smaller than my wick hole..ie on the rsst. But for a U wick you will have two air holes open so that will be a no no if you don't want it to leak. Same if you want to do dual coil on the genny. In those cases you plug the wick holes with the wicks and leave the fill hole semi plugged...like the example I gave with the Kraken. Hope all this makes sense.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

As long as the hole that the liquid can escape from the tank and the hole that the air can get into the tank are the same you won't have a leaking genny. Ofcourse this hole has to be pretty small. So if you keep that in mind your can do all types of setups on the genny that won't leak...I gave a couple examples in my previous post. Some gennies have huge fill holes...when that happens I plug the fill hole and make my wick smaller than my wick hole..ie on the rsst. But for a U wick you will have two air holes open so that will be a no no if you don't want it to leak. Same if you want to do dual coil on the genny. In those cases you plug the wick holes with the wicks and leave the fill hole semi plugged...like the example I gave with the Kraken. Hope all this makes sense.

makes sense, so on a simple genesis set up on an aga t2, keep the fill hole plugged and leave a slight gap in the wick hole, and on the u wick both wick holes plugged (would it work to leave a slight gap on one of the wick holes?) and have the fill hole semi plugged (assuming the previous slight gap wouldnt work)

 

[EDO]

makes sense, so on a simple genesis set up on an aga t2, keep the fill hole plugged and leave a slight gap in the wick hole, and on the u wick both wick holes plugged (would it work to leave a slight gap on one of the wick holes?) and have the fill hole semi plugged (assuming the previous slight gap wouldnt work)

I haven't tried this but it adheres to the principles I mentioned above so it should definitely work. As long as you only have one very small opening..... your genny shouldn't leak but should wick well. Honestly, cotton wicks so well that U-wicks aren't necessary. What I usually do is leave enough cotton above the coils so that I make it loop over the positive lead and then go behind the coils (it is preferred if touches back part of the coils)...it acts like a flavor wick. Try it, it makes the vape smooth as silk and adds a lot of flavor to the vape. With dual coils I do do the same for both coils. U-wicks make more sense if you are doing an ss mesh build.

Now just some more detail for you...lets say you want to do a simple single wick on the genny with cotton. Your wick hole is 3.5mm but you want to do a 2.4mm(3/32 inch) coil. Well if you want to plug the wick hole....it just won't happen...since the coil and thus the wick will be way to small compared to the wick hole. All you need to do is get a very small amount of cotton and use that to aid in plugging the top of the wick hole. When I do micro coil builds on the RSST I plug the fill hole but the gap left at the wick hole is still too large....it might leak. So, I get a very very tiny bit of cotton and use that to make the gap smaller and it never leaks. Once you master all this your gennies will be as leak free as your Kayfuns etc. If a device I have can't be laid on its side or taken everywhere....it gets tossed....I still use all my gennies.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

I haven't tried this but it adheres to the principles I mentioned above so it should definitely work. As long as you only have one very small opening..... your genny shouldn't leak but should wick well. Honestly, cotton wicks so well that U-wicks aren't necessary. What I usually do is leave enough cotton above the coils so that I make it loop over the positive lead and then go behind the coils (it is preferred if touches back part of the coils)...it acts like a flavor wick. Try it, it makes the vape smooth as silk and adds a lot of flavor to the vape. With dual coils I do do the same for both coils. U-wicks make more sense if you are doing an ss mesh build.

Now just some more detail for you...lets say you want to do a simple single wick on the genny with cotton. Your wick hole is 3.5mm but you want to do a 2.4mm(3/32 inch) coil. Well if you want to plug the wick hole....it just won't happen...since the coil and thus the wick will be way to small compared to the wick hole. All you need to do is get a very small amount of cotton and use that to aid in plugging the top of the wick hole. When I do micro coil builds on the RSST I plug the fill hole but the gap left at the wick hole is still too large....it might leak. So, I get a very very tiny bit of cotton and use that to make the gap smaller and it never leaks. Once you master all this your gennies will be as leak free as your Kayfuns etc. If a device I have can't be laid on its side or taken everywhere....it gets tossed....I still use all my gennies.

first off, i am stingy with my likes, i rarely like anything... a like to you good sir... (or madam) do you have some pics of what you are describing with the cotton loop, i think i get what you are talking about but a picture would make it superb... does the rest of the cotton wick well? i only considered the u wick because many people spoke of having issues with their cotton wicking... so was planning ahead for it...

as far as the plugging with extra cotton, that is absolutely brilliant, i cant say i wouldn't have thought of it eventually, but no idea if it would have came to me quickly... lol so many many thanks and props for that piece of wisdom... with the avoidance of the u wick, i am contemplating a horizontal wick still compared to a vertical and laying a little cotton bed beneath it... working on wacky ideas to make the absolute best builds possible...

 

[EDO]

first off, i am stingy with my likes, i rarely like anything... a like to you good sir... (or madam) do you have some pics of what you are describing with the cotton loop, i think i get what you are talking about but a picture would make it superb... does the rest of the cotton wick well? i only considered the u wick because many people spoke of having issues with their cotton wicking... so was planning ahead for it...

as far as the plugging with extra cotton, that is absolutely brilliant, i cant say i wouldn't have thought of it eventually, but no idea if it would have came to me quickly... lol so many many thanks and props for that piece of wisdom... with the avoidance of the u wick, i am contemplating a horizontal wick still compared to a vertical and laying a little cotton bed beneath it... working on wacky ideas to make the absolute best builds possible...

Ok here is a bad picture of my Kraken.....it is a dual coil build but I only took a picture of one side....but hope it helps you out....you can even see the toothpick I use to plug the fill hole. I have the cotton go loop over the positive lead then go down the back/side of the coil and then I used the end of it to plug any gaps in the wick hole.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

Ok here is a bad picture of my Kraken.....it is a dual coil build but I only took a picture of one side....but hope it helps you out....you can even see the toothpick I use to plug the fill hole. I have the cotton go loop over the positive lead then go down the back/side of the coil and then I used the end of it to plug any gaps in the wick hole.

Thanks for that... i had an ID 10 T moment there... I misinterpreted what you wrote... instead of getting positive lead, i interpreted it as positive post (center post) which is what threw me... total brain fart on that one...

 

[EDO]

Yeah...the positive lead on these gennies can get quite hot....it throws off the flavor and adds a certain harshness to the vape. By having the cotton loop over it like the picture...it helps cool down the wire...which makes the vape a lot smoother and enhances the flavor. I would start with a simple one wick build using cotton and go from there. I was a huge fan of ss mesh but once you know what your doing with cotton...it is a lot better. It wicks far better than ss mesh for me. Just remember cotton swells like crazy so you don't need too much. I know in the picture it looks like I am using a lot of cotton but I am not. Ofcourse anything I am telling you works perfectly for me but might not work out for you....you know YMMV.

 

[Wickeddeuce]

the cotton ive been using in the BSD vertical chimney (not sure what exactly its called) in my pt2 is amazing, and cotton is cheap so why would i bother with something else... if it aint broke dont fix it... right?

one thing i want to toy with are some of the crazy coils that pdib, xobe and some of the others have been coming up with, the number one i want to try, was done by i think it was pdib, and it was 1 wire, 4 coils in a nice square pattern... looked absolutely beautiful, a thing of art... if i came up with a way to fill each of those with cotton and manage to get them all wicking well, that would be great... that or im going to just have to go and get a nice little dripper...

either way i want to play with various set ups here a little bit... make some different/wild/cool coils... really tempted to buy some flat kanthal wire to make some magic mundy wire or mundys magic, i forget which way it was referred to... but it apparently not only looks cool but offers a superb vape...

4 more days and i should have my little beauties in my hands... then again ups hasnt updated, or at least i hope they havent updated, because otherwise i might be waiting even longer...