getting into the business

[kno]

i see alot of US suppliers selling similar kits

i was wondering

if i were to want to get into the business as an e-cig supplier. where would i look to get my products manufactured?

would i actually need to go to china to make a deal?

does anyone know of any good information for starting your own e-cig company and getting products manufactured?

 

[rjp44]

Yes, the parts all come from china as far as I know. You could contact manufacturers such as electronic cigarette,e-cigarette,Joye Technology greem cog Home there may be others that I'm not aware of.

 

[kno]

yes, joye is great, but would they custom brand the products for me and ship them?

i see blu, volcano, and other brands with their product packaging logos etc on the box and cigs themselves, im wondering where i could get specific models created for sale here in the US... it'd be a great company to have.

 

[Scottbee]

Money and volume talk. I believe that most of the manufacturers will "badge" or "brand" the product for you if you meet some minimum order requirement. Keep in mind, that "minimum" may be quite high for some factories though.

 

[Fedor]

If you decide on Mseries stuff, i highly recommend dealing with Electronic Cigarette | Electronic Cigarettes | E-Cigarettes | E-Cigs from Smoore -

You won't need to go to China to deal with them unless you want them to produce some new technology that you came up with.

 

[KonaNeil]

....would i actually need to go to china to make a deal?

does anyone know of any good information for starting your own e-cig company and getting products manufactured?

Several should be at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas month after next.

This is an interesting time to get into the e-cig biz. And I do mean interesting in the Chinese interpretation of the word;-)

 

[kno]

thanks for all of the info

you mean interesting as in good or bad? or just i dunno cause of the fda?

also what manufacturers could i look for outside of china (looking at smoore now)

would i actually need to go to china to place the order/do business?

 

[BuzzKill]

Goto Made-in-china.com ,search e-cigs
Later
Buzz

 

[Mac]

type e-cigarette oem into google and no you don't have to go to china.

 

[Fedor]

When u visit the trade sites, be wary of traders posing as manufacturers. These people will not hesitate to rip you off for a one time only profit. This is very common of business practices in China.

 

[BuzzKill]

I should have given you more info regarding dealing with China , here are a few pointers. ( I have 2 diff. products made in China and deal with them often )
1. Be UPFRONT , I ask them if they are the MFG ( they will lie ! ) they usually say yes BUT it is ot always bad if they are not you can still get really good pricing .
2. If you are buying from them tell them if they rip you off you will post it all over the net ! using thier name ! , this weds out the most bad guys.
3. use TT or Paypal , rarely will I use Western Union etc. avoid this if possible.
4. Stay on them , many chinese will not want to communicate after payment .
5. If they are shipping large orders setup a 30-30-40 payment ( 30% upfront , 30% on proof of shipping and 40 % on delivery

this should help some

Later
Buzz

 

[eZiggy]

I should have given you more info regarding dealing with China , here are a few pointers. ( I have 2 diff. products made in China and deal with them often )
1. Be UPFRONT , I ask them if they are the MFG ( they will lie ! ) they usually say yes BUT it is ot always bad if they are not you can still get really good pricing .
2. If you are buying from them tell them if they rip you off you will post it all over the net ! using thier name ! , this weds out the most bad guys.
3. use TT or Paypal , rarely will I use Western Union etc. avoid this if possible.
4. Stay on them , many chinese will not want to communicate after payment .
5. If they are shipping large orders setup a 30-30-40 payment ( 30% upfront , 30% on proof of shipping and 40 % on delivery

this should help some

Later
Buzz

I never ordered mega quantities of anything from China,

only small amounts of ejuice here and there,

but you sound about right especially your 5th point.

 

[Fedor]

Most of the sleazy ones don't really care if you smear their name on the internet. Firstly, they are not the manufacturer and they operate under many names. They trade dozens of products and can't be bothered to focus solely on one. They add new products to their list and call themselves the manufacturer every day! The objective is simple, sell today and get the money today. Worry about everything else later.

You are right when you say they don't wanna communicate after the sale as they are not very interested in repeat purchases. They will be interested if there are no problems with the first one. If you pose any sign of giving them problems, they will begin ignoring you. Go direct to the manufacturer to save yourself some trouble. At least they will be worried about their reputation.

 

[BuzzKill]

Fedor I agree with you , it comes down to due dilegence on the buyers part , it is HARD to tell the MFG from the dealer/broker.

take time ask lots of questions is the best way I have found.

later
buzz

 

[Shatosa]

Here's the website address to the Small Business page of the US-China Chamber of Commerce (located in Chicago, IL). It couldn't hurt to call and see if they could verify the manufacturer for you.

uscc . org / newhome / businescenter10 . asp

I was unable to post the link at this time. Take out the spaces when you type or copy/past it.

 

[kno]

i've been dealing with kevin huang with JSB

Shenzhen Jieshibao Technology Co., Ltd <--- let me know if u guys know about this site???

i just made a sample order to check the j118 PCC kit out, if it's good and legit i'll get the branding done and order 100 to start - got a website i'll be selling on

they also manufacture the l88b (blu/volcano) and the J901 (dse901)

but i really like the 118 it's like a 510 mixed with a 901 - so that in a PCC is what i want to offer

they said shipping should be 7-10 days, i paid yesterday - no response today (sunday)
i'll e-mail them tomorrow to make sure everything is still going good... they also have an awesome deal on the 118 starter kits without the pcc right now... if anyone wants to co-op on this let me know, wouldn't mind an investor.

 

[dazole]

kno:
Did you ever get your shipment? How was the whole schmeel of doing business with them?

 

[kno]

i only got the sample kit so far, and i use it daily, it's a j118 and it's great,

the guy im dealing with said that he would send smaller shipments under 500 via paypal so im only gonna buy 15-20 kits a time right now. i sent him an e-mail earlier, he should respond tomorrow (thanksgiving) and i expect to have them the first or second week of december.

 

[NikGrey]

Kno,

I am interested (to say the least) in how you go with this company as I too am looking to start a business in the UK and so-far after trying to find a supplier via Alibaba was put onto somebody who claims to be the only joyetech supplier in the UK.

I am having problems believing that statement so continue in my quest for a supplier - I am thinking China direct is the way to go and by the sounds of it you are about to do the testing for me

I am concerned about large orders, I also want to start with modest numbers to ensure it will work out. I would like to supply 510's and all the associated bits.

LOL, maybe Kevin will give you a commission for referring me to him 8-o

 

[kno]

i doubt that i'd get commission... and honestly... from the reading ive been doing... its probably best only to order in small quantities and pay the extra shipping just in case customs gets one of your packages... unless there are no import customs for this in the UK. I'm sending the first order's payment now... wish me luck.