Getting more into rebuilds need some advice.

[Happypwnstar]

Im currently using a kgo and a protank 2 and its not cutting it so i ordered a vamo v5 and some 18650 batterys.

I want to get into rebuilding rdas/rbas and a lot of people are saying to just get a mechanical mod and others are saying to be careful unless you know battery conversions and all that, I dont.

So will a vamo with say a kayfun be a good starter set up??

Then after i get more used to building get a mech and something higher up? Or should i buy a cheap mech clone and start there for building and use my vamo as more of an everyday vape?

 

[ajaymes2001]

I'm running an EHPRO Kayfun 3.1 clone on my V2. I'm using it on the watts settings and run between 9-10 watts for my sweet spot. My coil is running about 1.8 ohms which seems to work well. You don't want to go below about 1.6. even though the Vamos say they can run all the way down to 1.3 ohms...you'll get a better hit at lower watts saving your battery. I have to charge mine every other day, but I also still use my starter eGos while I'm at work.
Seems to be a good enough combination for a great ADV.

Edit: You will love the Vamo even if you only use Kanger tanks on it.

 

[DoMortas]

I would start with just rebuilding your protank coils, stock coils only give about 1/2 the performance. Make sure you have a meter to check the ohms and go from there, some people find that they really don't care for making coils, so better to try it out before spending $ on something you may not like.. But as for the Vamo, it's a good place to start.

 

[AndriaD]

Im currently using a kgo and a protank 2 and its not cutting it so i ordered a vamo v5 and some 18650 batterys.

I want to get into rebuilding rdas/rbas and a lot of people are saying to just get a mechanical mod and others are saying to be careful unless you know battery conversions and all that, I dont.

So will a vamo with say a kayfun be a good starter set up??

Then after i get more used to building get a mech and something higher up? Or should i buy a cheap mech clone and start there for building and use my vamo as more of an everyday vape?

Well I don't think I'd call it a starter, what you have now is more of a starter setup, but, the Kayfun, ANY kayfun, is one of the very best vapes you can get. However you do need to know how to build coils, to use a kayfun at all, because it doesn't come with one installed. And the other thing you need to be able to do is wick it properly, which may be even more important to the quality of the vape than just building a coil, and was much harder for me to learn than just wrapping some wire around a drillbit.

As far as mechs, you REALLY DO need to know a lot about battery safety; there is no protective circuitry between you and that powerful battery, with a mech, so if you don't know how to do it safely, you may end up with your face splattered somewhere behind you. When you're new to all this, I don't think a mech is a good choice, for that exact reason; an electronic PV is a much better choice, and will protect you somewhat from your own ignorance -- most of them won't fire an atomizer that is built below a certain resistance, which helps prevent battery over-discharge (which can ruin the battery and even make it dangerous), and when it's time to recharge, an electronic PV will tell you that, again so that you don't over-discharge and create a potential hazard or at the very least, ruin your battery; a mech just declines in power and says nothing, it's up to you to notice that your vape isn't as good as it was, and do something about it.

As for the Vamo, I can't say, I don't own one, but most of the comments I've seen about them lead me to believe that they're pretty good; right off hand, I can't recall any single criticism of any Vamo. In fact I may buy a v2 myself.

And oh BTW, welcome to ECF!!!
Andria

 

[emily n portland]

Hello there,
Welcome to ECF!!

Tough to say what you should do...
What I did, was start by rebuilding my protanks and then added RDAs and then a Kayfun clone, all on regulated vw devices (itaste, vaprshark)

I just recently added my first mechanical (a Reo), I found it takes a lot more tries to get the vape you want on a mechanical when you just have to rely on your ohms versus the vw. Worth it, but more work.

Whichever you think you like, enjoy, and be safe.
This thread has a wealth of information I return to often when I'm ready to learn something new.

 

[sterlingsdaddy]

I have a vamo v5 and love it. The threads are prone to getting weak fast vivid smoke has stainless ones for 10$ and the firing pin gets shoved to far down. Both can be avoided by not tightening down the carto/clearo to far.

 

[Guelito]

Im currently using a kgo and a protank 2 and its not cutting it so i ordered a vamo v5 and some 18650 batterys.

I want to get into rebuilding rdas/rbas and a lot of people are saying to just get a mechanical mod and others are saying to be careful unless you know battery conversions and all that, I dont.

So will a vamo with say a kayfun be a good starter set up??

Then after i get more used to building get a mech and something higher up? Or should i buy a cheap mech clone and start there for building and use my vamo as more of an everyday vape?

just got a kayfun lite v2 cant go wrong with that 101 vape great price

 

[SJS71]

Greetings ECF. My first post from a 4 month prior lurker in Australia.
After reading the above, I agree that rebuilding a protank with a micro coil and cotton has them light years above stock. They have returned to regular rotation back from the 'moved on' pile of dollars spent chasing the dragon. A protank or 4 now get happily picked up from a line up that includes Kayfun, Russian,Nautilus, VV mods various, VW mods various, mechs and Reo's. Had I have known back at the start how much a home build improves on the mass produced variety coil I possibly could have saved much $'s and been quite satisfied on Protanks.
Not that I don't love them all in a fashion and the Reo's are fantastic (I only have 5 of those in various forms ).
I thought vaping would be cheaper but break even is still a couple of months in the future given my wild ride, easily justified as am off the cancer sticks after smoking 40 a day for 28 odd years.
Rebuild the Protank, 1.0 to 1.4 ohm build, whack it on a Vamo and be well chuffed with the results. The added bonus is that when wicked correctly (and by this I don't mean it is any great art, you just fiddle until happy) all issues surrounding dry hits, gurgles and leaks will be history also.
Cheers,
Sean




Cigs not smoked- many thousands. Dollars spent vaping- many many thousands.......

 

[emily n portland]

Well officially welcome to ECF SJS71!!
Glad came out to play with us.

I like your signature....the money saved in mine is just a great big lie

 

[SJS71]

Thanks Emily, whatever works right. Just a shame that vaping must be encroaching on your shoe budget! Hahaha. Sean


Cigs not smoked- many thousands. Dollars spent vaping- many many thousands.......

 

[brickfollett]

Honestly, if you really want to hone and perfect your rebuilding skills, start with a genesis atomizer on a regulated mod. Genny's require the most practice to build, and I started on an RSST, and moved on to a Pyrex one. It was my every day vape on my Provari for months before I discovered drippers, and later, my Reo with bottom fed atomizers.

I did microcoils at 2.4 ohms on SS mesh, and ran that at 6 volts, or in the neighborhood of 15 watts or so. Don't quote me on that, I don't bother with the math. If you can perfect genesis builds, you can build just about anything. RipTrippers has some really cool builds, but really only appropriate for mechanicals or 20+ watt devices.

If your going to make it into a hobby, I would spend a lot of time doing research (namely battery safety) and get yourself a nice clone. Nemesis and Stingray clones are all the rage right now, my Stingray kicks ..... If you enjoy that, maybe look in to Reo's down the road. For me personally, the Reo quickly became an end all device. My Stingray collects dust, as do my genesis atomizers. Best advice I can offer you is whatever rebuilding you plan on doing, just be safe and educated on it. A regulated device will protect you if you screw up. Mechanical mods are unforgiving and there are consequences for screwing up and these consequences can have varying magnitudes.

 

[retic1959]

The kayfun and vamo are an excellent combination , I say go for it and pick up a mech later when you're more experienced , I disagree with those that recommend rebuilding protank heads for the simple reason that the insulators tend to burn when dryburned and become useless after that , burnt insulators taste like crap , the heads are tiny and a PITA to work with compared to the amount of space on a kayfun deck and there are far more options and control of the builds on a kayfun due to space and configuration . My protanks and evods are sealed away in the deepest darkest crypt of my vape museum , guarded with curses against Kanger Tech and any who would expose them to the light of day for they caused me much grief and frustration ! A kayfun is never a mistake !

 

[SJS71]

Agree Retic, was more of an intro to rebuilding versus the cost of starting the crypt we are all so find of. Kayfun is better, but cost and weight are a consideration when starting out.


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[SJS71]

I did see that the OP already owns a Protank. Just as an aside, my pro tanks vape great and yet my Kayfun sits unloved needing a melted insulator due to an unlocked in my bag firing until battery dead and justice dumped out with a melted mess. There is a learning curve we have all been through. Hahaha


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[Happypwnstar]

Amazing infromation guys glad to be on the forums thanks. So looks like ill be messing around with my protank for a while see how she vapes stock then try a mild rebuild.

Ordered me some 28g kanthal and watched some videos on building mini coils. Doesn't look to bad but compared to just screwing down the wire looks a lot easier.

I think after a month or so of my protank and more research might try a kayfun clone out and go from there if i mess up a coil head on my protank only out a couple of bucks compared to what could be a lot more.

 

[lsdftw]

RiP Trippers on Youtube has definitely walked me through a lot of my coil building learning curve. I definitely recommend getting a cheap atty clone with a nice open build platform and walking through a couple builds on his youtube to get acquainted with the nuances of building coils.

There are also several videos on youtube that will introduce you to battery safety.

 

[vasago]

Lol, I just ordered a kayfun lite today....now I wonder if it will look silly on my mvp v2? ( loving my mvp).

 

[coalyard]

It is difficult to go wrong with a Kayfun and a VAMO. IMHO, a Kayfun seems to perform best with modest builds between 1 to 2 ohms. I have tried many, and I settled on a 1.8 ohm single micro coil wrapped with 30ga kanthal, wicked with cotton. As a matter of fact, it is the same coil I build for my PT2's, which, by the way, you should seriously consider rebuilding before you just set them out to pasture. A well built and properly wicked 1.8 ohm micro coil in a PT puts it on a level with the Kayfun flavor wise.

I have considered getting a mech, but I have decided against it; a mech mod just doesn't fit my style of vaping well. Regulated devices do the trick for me based upon how I build my devices, and my desire to fiddle with gear. I will probably add a DNA 30 based mod soon. Good luck, and welcome!

 

[brickfollett]

Protanks IMO are one of the more difficult coils to build. Not much room to work, and shorting is hard to avoid with the tight tolerances