Getting that "Commercial" taste

Status
Not open for further replies.

Old Greybeard

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Aug 31, 2018
605
3,492
Cumbria
www.e-cigarette-forum.com
I'll be the first to admit, I do like the occasional commercial juice. I can't vape it all day though, as it is just too overpowering and intense. I would like to add some commercial styled recipes to my DIY arsenal though.

How would folks suggest I go about this? My first thoughts are high flavour (15%?) and 1% CAP super sweet.

Many thanks in advance. Naturally, I'll share my successes :thumbs:.
 

AngeNZ

ShutterBug
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
  • Mar 24, 2018
    11,377
    88,475
    New Zealand
    I'll be the first to admit, I do like the occasional commercial juice. I can't vape it all day though, as it is just too overpowering and intense. I would like to add some commercial styled recipes to my DIY arsenal though.

    How would folks suggest I go about this? My first thoughts are high flavour (15%?) and 1% CAP super sweet.

    Many thanks in advance. Naturally, I'll share my successes :thumbs:.

    Cap super sweet will give you that sweet sugar lips taste. I personally absolutely LOVE it ;)

    And from what I've tried, flavouring percentages are usually at around 20% for commercial juice.

    There's a diy clone list on reddit that may give you some ideas
     

    bombastinator

    ECF Guru
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Sep 12, 2010
    13,364
    26,552
    MN USA
    Iirc finding a pretty decent boba’s bounty clone around here a few years ago. It wasn’t even particularly complex. I generally mix around 20% for any fruit. They tend to be weak. I am by no means a flavor master. Quite the reverse actually.

    Maybe do some searches in the recipes section and see what crops up.
     

    bombastinator

    ECF Guru
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Sep 12, 2010
    13,364
    26,552
    MN USA
    20% :shock::shock::shock:.

    Wow. I better get this right - Otherwise I'll end up bankrupt very quickly. Some interesting pointers on Reddit though, thanks @AngeNZ.
    I also buy cheap flavors though. I’m particularly fond of flavorwest because they have a company website and you can avoid at least one middleman. I get a 4oz bottle of flavor there for the price of a 15-30ml. 4oz lasts a long time, even at my higher flavor consumption.
     

    zoiDman

    My -0^10 = Nothing at All*
    Supporting Member
    ECF Veteran
    Apr 16, 2010
    41,633
    1
    84,766
    So-Cal
    I'll be the first to admit, I do like the occasional commercial juice. I can't vape it all day though, as it is just too overpowering and intense. I would like to add some commercial styled recipes to my DIY arsenal though.

    How would folks suggest I go about this? My first thoughts are high flavour (15%?) and 1% CAP super sweet.

    Many thanks in advance. Naturally, I'll share my successes :thumbs:.

    Can't really speak to many Retail e-Liquids. Because I haven't bought a Retail e-Liquid in well over 7 Years. But I know the Owners of a couple of B&M's. And they All use TFA Sweetener in just about All of there e-Liquid recipes.

    Might pick up a Bottle and see if you like it.

    Just know that a Little Goes a Long Way. And that there is No Steeping Needed.
     

    JCinFLA

    Vaping Master
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Oct 21, 2015
    9,403
    44,612

    If you think that's high....check out many of Bill's Magic Vapor's recipes found within his Blog posts below. He was a commercial mixer for many years, and is/was a wealth of information on ECF for his recipes, tips, hints, how to correct for problems in your eliquids, etc. He hasn't posted on ECF for a very long time, but his posts remain, both in his Blog and in the huge TFA thread (locked now, but still accessible for browsing).

    I started DIY by making his recipes, following his tips, etc. I was used to commercial eliquids...so his high total flavoring % recipes were terrific for me! After about a year, I started cutting his % by about 1/3. Since then I've cut many by half...and the eliquids are still great, IMO. His recipes IMO definitely result in great-tasting eliquids, whether you like them at the original high total flavoring or you adjust them for lower total % flavoring. I particularly loved his Jo's Peach Cobbler, Lemon Meringue Pie, Flamingo, and his Vanilla Milkshake Base (a starter for many variations of fruity, chocolatey, etc. recipes).

    Bill's Magic Vapor's blog | E-Cigarette Forum
     

    Sugar_and_Spice

    ECF Guru
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Sep 11, 2010
    13,663
    35,225
    between here and there
    Flavor West does have some very good tasting flavors, but, having said that, they are also the weakest concentration of the flavor makers most of us use. In order to taste the flavors immediately like gums, and some fruits you need at least 15% if not higher. To those who mix in 30ml and vape right away they serve the mixer well. But if you mix in larger volumes at this % say 100ml and up, the flavoring does not stop developing and you may find you will need to cut in half or thirds and dilute them back to a vapable level. Luckily its not hard to do. When I mix large volumes of juice I keep them in the fridge and they taste just as good as the day I mixed them(even if I end up cutting them in half.) FW Skittles(since renamed bc of name copy rights) on the other hand only needs to start at a 5% level or so to vape immed and taste good. Each flavoring has its own % starting place. Good to read reviews on the website you are purchasing from so they are not all a stab in the dark.

    just my 2 pennies.

    :)
     

    bombastinator

    ECF Guru
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Sep 12, 2010
    13,364
    26,552
    MN USA
    Doesn't mean you have to go there - I don't :lol: 15% is my tipping point
    My sister made me go up to 18% unless it’s take out or delivery. 18% is standard for anything sit down. I’m thinking this may not be the tipping point you are talking about though
     
    • Like
    Reactions: stols001

    IDJoel

    Vaping Master
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Feb 20, 2015
    3,459
    11,932
    63
    Boise, ID
    Taste is taste (flavor?). I don't give a hang about numerical values. If it tastes good to the individual vaping it... then GOOD on them! :thumbs:

    Whether that works for me, is a different matter.

    DIY is all about fine tuning to the individual. I can take it, or leave it. That does NOT affect how it may work for anyone else. To those that mix a 20, 30, or more, percent; I tip my hat!. I am just too cheap, and stubborn, to mix at that percentage. That is my own short coming. Not anyone else's.

    I will never judge what anyone else for what they enjoy. I hope others would show me the same respect.
    :toast:
     

    AngeNZ

    ShutterBug
    Supporting Member
    ECF Veteran
  • Mar 24, 2018
    11,377
    88,475
    New Zealand
    I blew my tipping point out of the water today - made a mix that was too minty, decided to throw in some cookies and cream (fw) and wow! Creamy Mint Oreo's at 18% was born. It's very SWEET but good in small doses ;)

    Here's yet another site with some awesome cloned commercial recipes:

    Jean Cloud Vape Recipes
     

    Letitia

    Citrus Junkie
    Supporting Member
    ECF Veteran
    Apr 2, 2017
    25,888
    137,085
    West Frankfort, IL
    I blew my tipping point out of the water today - made a mix that was too minty, decided to throw in some cookies and cream (fw) and wow! Creamy Mint Oreo's at 18% was born. It's very SWEET but good in small doses ;)

    Here's yet another site with some awesome cloned commercial recipes:

    Jean Cloud Vape Recipes
    Browsed the site a bit, I'll be wanting to try a few.
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Users who are viewing this thread