GGTS Safety Fuse..

[blue9]

Just wondering why this does not come standard on the GGTS model now ? Or does it?

If this is a safety feature!!. Why would it not be standard with the GGTS.. I'm sure it would help Imeo sleep better, knowing that he made his PV the safest possible... If any one would use unprotected batteries and the worst was to happen, At least he could say that he went a step further too make his device the safest out there...

Or am I missing the point of the

GGTS Safety Fuse


Just my
Cheers

 

[imeothanasis]

Just wondering why this does not come standard on the GGTS model now ? Or does it?

If this is a safety feature!!. Why would it not be standard with the GGTS.. I'm sure it would help Imeo sleep better, knowing that he made his PV the safest possible... If any one would use unprotected batteries and the worst was to happen, At least he could say that he went a step further too make his device the safest out there...

Or am I missing the point of the

GGTS Safety Fuse


Just my
Cheers

We deside with Lisa that it would not be good for all people blue. I said that I wanted to make it as standard on GGTS but many people will mess with it or if GG stops smoking, Lisa and Rob will have many mails a day for nothing. Also it will increase the price of GG. But I can make it cheaper because I am making many GGs now so fuses will come cheaper to me

 

[emonty]

and if you use the PT you don't need one or with a single High Drain AW battery there is no need for the fuse.

 

[blue9]

Yep cool, Not everyone uses a PT eMonty!! and if they did maybe this fuse would never of been made in the first place... Safety first is all way the way forward.. Cheers Blue

 

[imeothanasis]

All batteries even those that are "safe" like the AW can explode, so fuse is nessesary Blue. But fuse is for advanced users, I cant put it in all GGs. There are so many people that buy the GG and some of them havent seen a e-cig before. When they learn more they can buy the fuse or anything else. Its not a matter of money. We talked with Lisa about this and I wanted to add the fuse on GGTS but she told me what I said before and she was right

 

[emonty]

It is very, very unlikely an AW battie will explode, never heard of it and it has as Anti explosion vent module for added safety. But I do agree, safety first!

 

[imeothanasis]

It is very, very unlikely an AW battie will explode, never heard of it and it has as Anti explosion vent module for added safety. But I do agree, safety first!

I agree emonty but batteries are batteries and maybe a false one will kill someone. All serious electrical devices works with fuses because the manufacturers have seen a lot of accidents. Fuse is absolutely nessesary and I am thinking of a way to put it on SS too


ps...... Fuses are nessesary to all machines and much more when we keep those things (cigs) in our hands and near the face

 

[Wylie]

Just received my GGTS #306 yesterday from VK and had a general question about this topic. I'm not new to PVs, but I am new to the GG.

Somehow the button screw (the one against the aluminum base) was loose and when I tightened it back down I guess it was too far in. I think it was permanently touching the center pole.

I didn't know this, of course, but my GGTS got really, really hot and was getting hotter so I quickly unscrewed the atomizer cap, trying to avoid a big bang. One of the two RCR123A (Tenergy LiFePO4) batteries seems to have 'bubbled' on the side, as if it became over-heated. I'm not sure if it was the top or bottom battery. Note: This was my third use of this battery pair.

No explosion, and the GGTS still works fine, though I'm a little more timid about using it now... at least at 6v. No mess inside the GGTS, either.

So my question is this: Would the fuse have cut the current in this situation? Should I avoid the LiFePO4 batteries? I have used this brand and type of battery in another mod without incident for many months.

Any help is appreciated.

 

[blue9]

Wylie check these out from Rob,

I finally got around to making some simple GG videos.

Nothing in depth at this time, but some handy videos demonstrating how to remove, adjust and re-install the button as well as adding a few upgrades. I'll do something more in depth later.

Check them out at http://www.youtube.com/user/VaporKings

 

[imeothanasis]

Just received my GGTS #306 yesterday from VK and had a general question about this topic. I'm not new to PVs, but I am new to the GG.

Somehow the button screw (the one against the aluminum base) was loose and when I tightened it back down I guess it was too far in. I think it was permanently touching the center pole.

I didn't know this, of course, but my GGTS got really, really hot and was getting hotter so I quickly unscrewed the atomizer cap, trying to avoid a big bang. One of the two RCR123A (Tenergy LiFePO4) batteries seems to have 'bubbled' on the side, as if it became over-heated. I'm not sure if it was the top or bottom battery. Note: This was my third use of this battery pair.

No explosion, and the GGTS still works fine, though I'm a little more timid about using it now... at least at 6v. No mess inside the GGTS, either.

So my question is this: Would the fuse have cut the current in this situation? Should I avoid the LiFePO4 batteries? I have used this brand and type of battery in another mod without incident for many months.

Any help is appreciated.

All GGs are tested by me before they come for sale so I believe that it was not the button my friend Wy. It was a short from a bad atomizer, so fuse would have cut the current immediately. Fuse cut the current when batteries are still cold.

 

[Wylie]

All GGs are tested by me before they come for sale so I believe that it was not the button my friend Wy. It was a short from a bad atomizer, so fuse would have cut the current immediately. Fuse cut the current when batteries are still cold.

Now that you mention that, I don't think my scenario makes much sense because the atomizer was not firing. It could have just been a bad battery or any number of other scenarios.

Just to clarify, though, I wasn't suggesting the GGTS was improperly manufactured. I was unscrewing it, tightening it, changing batteries, and so on for hours trying to figure out how it works so I got something wrong.

I'll definitely look into the safety fuse.

 

[Wylie]

Wylie check these out from Rob,

Check them out at YouTube - VaporKings's Channel

Thanks very much, Blue!

 

[imeothanasis]

Now that you mention that, I don't think my scenario makes much sense because the atomizer was not firing. It could have just been a bad battery or any number of other scenarios.

Just to clarify, though, I wasn't suggesting the GGTS was improperly manufactured. I was unscrewing it, tightening it, changing batteries, and so on for hours trying to figure out how it works so I got something wrong.

I'll definitely look into the safety fuse.

I am sure that you didnt meant that GG was bad manufactured Wy my friend (maybe 1 per 200-300 is bad because maybe I miss something), but button cant be longer than the apropriate length. If it moves up and down then its ok. And if atomizer was not firing then yes it was a bad atomizer that cause a short

 

[chichigrk]

The gg fuse from my experience today is an essential update. Im using an aw 18650 red battery vaped a little this morning then out of nowhere no vape button got hot, then nothing. took everything quickly off and saw i had blown fuse. Turned out i had a faulty atomizer where the connection was depressed exposing excessive white o ring, which im sure caused a short. Now without the fuse there i can only imagine what would have happened.
In short get the fuse and you wont have any worries.

 

[imeothanasis]

The gg fuse from my experience today is an essential update. Im using an aw 18650 red battery vaped a little this morning then out of nowhere no vape button got hot, then nothing. took everything quickly off and saw i had blown fuse. Turned out i had a faulty atomizer where the connection was depressed exposing excessive white o ring, which im sure caused a short. Now without the fuse there i can only imagine what would have happened.
In short get the fuse and you wont have any worries.

Thats an examble of what can happen. Thanks Chich that you share this with us.

 

[Lisaf01]

All batteries even those that are "safe" like the AW can explode, so fuse is nessesary Blue. But fuse is for advanced users, I cant put it in all GGs. There are so many people that buy the GG and some of them havent seen a e-cig before. When they learn more they can buy the fuse or anything else. Its not a matter of money. We talked with Lisa about this and I wanted to add the fuse on GGTS but she told me what I said before and she was right

Just to clarify in case this post scared anyone.
Genuine LiFEPO4 and LiMN batteries DO NOT explode with fire when they vent - their chemistry completely prevents this.

However, as stated, the fuse prevents damage to batteries in this instance and also we can never be sure which batteries users are using in their devices. The fuse is a good option for people to have for the ultimate safety.

The reason we decided not to include it as standard (apart from the increase in cost it would have meant) is because if there was no standard centre pole (axis) in the device for users to swap back in then if they ever ran out of fuse springs any time, they would be left with a device they would be unable to use until they had more fuse springs. We did not want our users to find themselves in that situation.

It's all about providing choice and safety but not forcing anyone to have particular options at the expense of others - if that makes sense.....

 

[satoshi]

Why did the button suddenly get hot if chichigrk is using a LiMN battery with a fuse?

 

[chichigrk]

The brass botton probably got hot due to the heat created by the short, which in turn blew the fuse (the hot button is how i knew something went wrong.) My 18650 battery was not damaged and has been working well since, gone through one charge cycle since.

Note: for added safety check the atomizer connection for abnormalities as the short was caused by the white o ring on the atomizer comming loose (guess something went wrong in the positive and negative connection??)

Hmm did i say i love the GGTS?? been with it a few weeks now works flawlessly with the exception of a few user errors.

 

[satoshi]

The brass botton probably got hot due to the heat created by the short, which in turn blew the fuse (the hot button is how i knew something went wrong.) My 18650 battery was not damaged and has been working well since, gone through one charge cycle since.

Note: for added safety check the atomizer connection for abnormalities as the short was caused by the white o ring on the atomizer comming loose (guess something went wrong in the positive and negative connection??)

Hmm did i say i love the GGTS?? been with it a few weeks now works flawlessly with the exception of a few user errors.

Yeah, I've been waiting for Vapor Kings to get them back in stock. Was originally going to go for a slim, but I've been eying the GGTS lately.

I realize the short created the heat and the fuse worked as intended, but I'm just confused why you felt that suddenly in the button. I guess the proximity of the fuse to the button. I don't have one so I don't know the internals etc.

 

[T-Hefner]

I think it is GREAT that its offered as a option for the GG, as it isnt for everyone, but very cool that it is indeed offered.

The GG line may be the SAFEST mod ecig lineup...

GG for LIFE

-Tim