Giantomizer ALREADY DISCONTINUED??? (Engineering Short

[hellcatrydr]

This is from the manufacturer's website. The Giantomizer page:
(It appears to be an open letter to their sellers.)

Dear Value customer ,
We have discover after receiving some customers comments that the Giantomizer need to be adjusted to be more perfect (stronger and longer tube and different assembling way) because of that we decided not to produce the current ones and to wait till we have received the new RAW materials and adjusted moulds from our suppliers , we believe doing that we can protect as well your business. We try to do as soon as possible but we can’t tell how long time this will be needed to do this .
Thanks for your understanding,
A Giantomizer is a huge Edition 2 Cartomizer made and invented by MicroCig.com

I pasted it because sometimes website pages have a funny way of uhhh... changing. The link is HERE, current as of this posting.
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MY SHORT TAKE, The autopsy:
I AM a CE2 fan, They are not all perfect. IMHO, the best low maintenance, high capacity, instant complete flavor change, plug & play device on the market. With that said:

I bought one to disassemble and without question, the number one problem I see:
The juice tube appears to be THE EXACT SAME MATERIAL AS CLEARO/FLUXOMIZERS!!! (The black part is only a cover. This is a fat Clearomizer. Period.)
This means we may shortly begin to see those same My Tube Cracked reports that have plagued Fluxo/Clearo units since about a week after they were introduced. In fairness, the Giant's tubes are a bit thicker. I measured them both. The wall thickness of the clearo/fluxo is .014 inch. The Giabt is .018 inch. The CE2 is replaceable, IF you're the handy type.

Also, due to this company's somewhat... ummmm... 'colorful' business history, I measured the juice capacity: 2.6 ml. Not 3.7 as posted on RS. (Yes, It took me a minute to get past the hot flying Asian vapette vixen...) NOTE: The CALCULATED volume of the juice tube @ 12.4 mm diameter X 31 mm (Yeah, I measured that too. ) IS 3.7 ml but this leaves the actual CE2 OUTside the tube. (This may affect performance.) Perhaps they were unaware that we have syringes here...

BOTTOM LINE: Plain & simple... The Giant, in it's current state, is Mod-Bait only.
Even though it's out before it was ever in, It will be back. It will be modded. And it will be beastly. CE2s still rock!
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The manufacturer(s) (e-liquid.cn / MicroCig / RoyalSmoker are really all the same company.) have pulled this from one site while continuing to sell it on two others. Hmm.

 

[hairball]

Did you expect for us NOT to be test piggies for them? I figured that they are going to go through alot more changes before you'll ever see a "decent" one for sale. I'm totally not impressed with them and have cut one apart. Now on finding the right size plugs for the tubing....hmmmm....let's see now.....

 

[hellcatrydr]

Find the tubing first. (The new white CE2 cap is the key...)
A 4 ml syringe won't work. Close... but no cigar.

 

[zoiDman]

The Clearomizers and the Ginatomizers were designed/made at about the same time. When the Clearomizers were released, without adequate testing, the tubes were shown to crack or just plain fall off.

What a responsible company would have done is not release the Giantomizers because they knew there was going to be problems. But MiT/RS/e-Liquid.con doesn’t think that way. They just waited until the fire storm of ...... off Beta testers/buyers stopped posting horrible reviews on the forums. Then they slapped some lipstick on the pig and came out with a glossy promo about the Giantomizers. Did I say glossy? Maybe Slimey would have been a better word?

It’s the same old song and dance we have come to expect from our good friends at MiT/RS/e-Liquid.con. A poorly thought out design using substandard materials with little or no testing. Just like the E2. At least they are consistent.

The Giantomizer, and the New products that are coming will work in the end. Just don’t expect them to work on their first release. Heck, if they couldn’t even make a 510 cart work, the SmartCarts, and not included glue on the filler material (How long have they been telling us they don’t put glue in things?) what makes you think that the Giantomizers should work right out of the gate?

 

[Turbo]

The Clearomizers and the Ginatomizers were designed/made at about the same time. When the Clearomizers were released, without adequate testing, the tubes were shown to crack or just plain fall off.

What a responsible company would have done is not release the Giantomizers because they knew there was going to be problems. But MiT/RS/e-Liquid.con doesn’t think that way. They just waited until the fire storm of ...... of Beta testers/buyers stopped posting horrible reviews on the forums. Then they slapped some lipstick on the pig and came out with a glossy promo about the Giantomizers. Did I say glossy? Maybe Slimey would have been a better word?

It’s the same old song and dance we have come to expect from our good friends at MiT/RS/e-Liquid.con. A poorly thought out design using substandard materials with little or no testing. Just like the E2. At least they are consistent.

The Giantomizer, and the New products that are coming will work in the end. Just don’t expect them to work on their first release. Heck, if they couldn’t even make a 510 cart work, the SmartCarts, and not included glue on the filler material (How long have they been telling us they don’t put glue in things?) what makes you think that the Giantomizers should work right out of the gate?

Can I get an amen?! Well said.

 

[hellcatrydr]

For a buck seventy five apiece, the IZERs are still the single most important advancement since the e-cig itself.


MOD-GODS: Ready, Set, GO!

 

[six]

I, for one, am glad no one else will have an opportunity to waste ten bucks on a giantomizer. I bought one and messed with it for a few days before just throwing it away. - I've never been enthusiastic about cartos anyway. But, while I was on a buying spree, I decided to try not just the giantomizer but also the dual coil smok tek. The dual coil works great and if they hold up for a few fills, will probably become my vaping instrument of choice. - But that giantomizer can be classified as one of the worst vaping experiences I've ever had.

 

[Lady M]

I am sure happy I did not buy one of those.

 

[dannoman]

We have about half of our order coming in on shipment. Let me tell you as a supplier they did not contact us about this and I appreciate the OP post. I am guessing this means they are holding the remainder of our order until they get the adjusted raw materials.

With that said the early reports on these is they do work fine but you cannot fill them to their manufactured spec of 3.7ml. Reports are that, to be safe, fill to only 3.0 ml or so are you are OK....

 

[BuzzKill]

I talked to them about sending me a sample with another order , I was told the minimum was 500 units , so I asked how I was supposed to test it , they said buy 500 of them LMAO !

Typical Chinese BS and process , throw crap out there and wait for the replies then fix it maybe ??

 

[six]

With that said the early reports on these is they do work fine but you cannot fill them to their manufactured spec of 3.7ml. Reports are that, to be safe, fill to only 3.0 ml or so are you are OK....

What do you mean by "work fine"? And, I'm also wondering who provided the "reports".

My experience is that no matter the level of juice, they leak and taste like rubber. - They do produce a lot of vapor, but whoever told you they "work fine" isn't being quite honest with you and you should treat their opinions as suspect from now on. Read this thread and I think you'll find one person who liked the giantomizer after some modification, but you won't find anyone saying they work fine.

 

[hellcatrydr]

Lady M, Beautiful bird. I wanted a Ledbetter's or a Rosetta but the kids wouldn't let me re-fi the house...
danno, I'd be happy just knowing when the thick wick version of the metal XL ce2 will hit.
Six, Re the rubber taste, I'd bet 5 bucks that at least 3 manufacturers are already in prototype with 12 mm driptips.
BuzzKill, No no no. That's the OLD Chinese process. The current (Rev 2) process is: Throw crap out there, wait for Americans to fix the problems (See Map Tank), steal idea, cheapen it, reintroduce defective product. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I feel for the vendors who just wanna bring great new products to us fast but are in the unenviable and difficult position between end users and a poorly managed foreign manufacturer. I know I'd get over a regrettable 10-$20 purchase. (I've spent more & got less PLENTY of times...) But I'm NOT sure how fast I'd bounce back if I bought 5 or $10 thousand worth of regret.

 

[six]

Six, Re the rubber taste, I'd bet 5 bucks that at least 3 manufacturers are already in prototype with 12 mm driptips.

I feel for the vendors who just wanna bring great new products to us fast but are in the unenviable and difficult position between end users and a poorly managed foreign manufacturer.

I thought it was the tip at first. Now I think it's the silicone ring. After throwing out the tip, cleaning, refilling, and using my mega drip tip, the taste remained. I only bought one, but one of my pals jumped in with both feet and bought 9. (Ouch!) He really wants them to be worth the money so I've been cutting, chopping, sealing, and tinkering for a couple of days. Once you give the wicks some room, they do indeed produce a nice amount of vapor... foul tasting, nasty vapor, but definitely vapor. And they can be sealed well enough to stop leaking with some time, patience, and enough silicone.

I was in retail management a long time ago. I feel for them too (it's hard to make a buck if you don't have the latest and greatest in stock - even if the latest and greatest sucks) - But, buzzkill just earned a big chunk of my next quarters vape budget. I've been considering trying a vv and I always buy attys, juice, etc, so I'm sure I can find stuff he's got to spend money on. A guy who asks for samples to test before stocking items rather than pushing items that aren't good (and continuing to push them after knowing they aren't good) deserves my business.

 

[kelleymcm]

For a buck seventy five apiece, the IZERs are still the single most important advancement since the e-cig itself.
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MOD-GODS: Ready, Set, GO!

HEY.... I resemble that remark !!!!!!!!
but with a much better lipstick application !!

I agree that we ARE the test market for these products ,
I wish they would do it above board for all to see, but I am sure that will never happen .

I for one would like to see MiT/RS/e-Liquid.con set up a testing area,here or wherever. Where we could sign up to be testers & pay a reduced price to test new products & give feedback,before they go to market. I think it would be advantageous to all concerned & then they could earn some respect from us ....

Otherwise it is just a "crap shoot" for ALL OF US,vendors included .

 

[Goldenkobold]

I feel for the vendors who just wanna bring great new products to us fast but are in the unenviable and difficult position between end users and a poorly managed foreign manufacturer. I know I'd get over a regrettable 10-$20 purchase. (I've spent more & got less PLENTY of times...) But I'm NOT sure how fast I'd bounce back if I bought 5 or $10 thousand worth of regret.

I don't really feel for them....there are suppliers who test stuff and actually get back in touch with the manufacturer and then there are those who make videos saying that a crappy product is good. I don't really feel anything for the second group. Especially for those who still list 3.7 capacity even after getting them and knowing full well its not going to hold 3.7 ml

 

[txtumbleweed]

They got 30.00 out of me but that was my one and only experience with ce2s or that company nomatter what they come up with. I did like the window concept and the capacity but that is it.

 

[kelleymcm]

So much of the ecig business is subjective ....
you would think that info on "the measurable things"
would be correct or at least corrected...
I always appreciate when a vendor lists stuff like ...
manufacture says ---- ...but we have found --- ,
I'm a true believer in "honesty is always the best policy "...

 

[hellcatrydr]

HEY.... I resemble that remark !!!!!!!!
but with a much better lipstick application !!

E-cig that pig!