Girlfriend won't quit analogs! Help!

[bluehaze013]

Best thing you can do is be subtle about it. Just outright trying to get her to quit smoking will never work, in fact it will do the opposite and just make her resent you for her smoking. Women are strange creatures, god I still love them though! LOL Just throw a hint out every now and then, the idea is to make it her idea to quit vaping not yours. I'd advise laying off it altogethor for awhile though since you've already been pressing her, she's on the defensive and it's just going to cause a disagreement.

Best of luck

 

[Rickajho]

Pretty much has already been said: Unless someone wants to quit smoking they can find anything and everything to not like about vaping.

She is right - vaping is not smoking. You have to have a good reason to not like smoking - burning up your clothes, smelling like an ash tray, being ...... off about the outrageous prices, the social stigmas, paying higher insurance premiums, being banned in the building you live in, maybe even a health concern or five. Until/unless she grabs onto a reason why she actually wants to quit it isn't gonna happen with this one. Sorry.

Now grab that newborn and run away!!! Oops - there's another reason or two.

 

[BigBen2k]

I've been married for over ten years; you have to listen to what she's saying, and what she's not saying...

She's saying it's not the same, but she's not saying it has to be the same.
She's saying it's not enough, but she's not saying how much more it should be.

I'd pickup any cheap eGo, a charger, and a good tank, then let her pick a flavor that is not tobacco. Try different PG/VG ratios.

Most importantly, talk to her; find out what she wants.

It might end up being a lot of trial and error, and there may not be a lot of logic behind it. Yeah, it's gonna be expensive: suck it up!

 

[tanzmitpalmer]

18mg could definitely be too low. It took 24mg before I was satisfied enough to quit analogs, and I had been a pretty light smoker (ultra lights, less than a pack a day). I only had to stay there for about two weeks, then I scaled back to 18mg.

Also, you could ask her what is missing. Is the vapor too hot? Too cool? Is the throat hit too hard? Too soft? Is there enough vapor on the inhale? On the exhale? What qualities are the flavors lacking?

But really, don't be a vape-nazi. It's kind of a turn-off. Nobody is going to think it's the way and the light if she feels like you're forcing it on her. It doesn't work for religion or politics, so it's not going to work here either Just let her come to it on her own time.

 

[Tempus Fugit]

My wife is finally starting to come around to the idea. I have been vaping for nearly 4 years and have only been able to get her to take one puff, maybe twice or three times since I started. VERY resistant. Fortunately, she is realizing that she can't smoke forever, it is affecting her health, and it costs a sh'load of money. She doesn't like the idea of vaping, she isn't interested in flavors (this will be interesting), she hates the crackly-gurgly sounds that I love so much, and she does NOT want to be a "vaper". She thinks she wants to just hit it and quit.

I love vaping. I don't want to quit. I hadn't really considered her point of view. Who knows, it might change but she is pretty insistent that she will use them for awhile, step her nic down, and then drop it altogether. It took us two or three conversations about it before I got it. Now that I understand, it is much easier to say the things she wants to hear, that will help her to take the plunge.

She only smokes at home. She only smokes in one place (back porch). I suggested that something in keeping with her standard routines might be useful. She likes the idea of vaping in the same place. She is not planning on doing it inside. Won't stop me though. Anyway, she carries her little box of cigarettes outside, smokes one or two, then comes back in with her little box. It occurred to me that the eRoll might be an excellent choice for her. The size is right, the little box seems similar enough, and I don't think she'll go through more than 1, or 1.5 mil per day, Possibly less.

We haven't begun this process yet, she is on a trip. I think she is ready for me to get the eRoll when she returns. Not sure how we are going to address the "no interest in flavor" thing, but I'm sure it will be frustrating. I guess my point to all this is that you need to request a serious conversation about it and stay calm. Don't get preachy. Let her wade into it herself and you just answer questions. Keep in mind the whole time that she wants you to say what she wants to hear so she can consider your proposition, but don't lie. Find the things that she would like about vaping, based on what SHE wants to get out of it. You know she won't be into mechanical mods and wrapping her own coils, don't even bring that kind of stuff up. Trying to keep this frame of mind will help you to understand and be understood. Hell, by doing this, I even got my wife to watch pbusardo's FULL 20 minute review vid of the eRoll! It can be done! Many of us see it as a hobby, but I guess there really is merit to the idea of using them to actually quit! My wife understands that it is to get her away from tobacco first and foremost. It simply IS the easiest means to the transition. I know from experience. What one wants to do with vaping after that is all their own. Getting away from tobacco IS the point.

 

[Starlight Express]

Thank you all for the responses! I enjoy all of them, including the negative ones. I am learning about a lot that I have been doing wrong, and you are all correct...I especially like tanzmitpalmer said about "forcing it on her is not going to make her like it, kind of like religion or politics." That is a great way to put it. When my grandparents try to force me into following their religion, it makes me resent it and think that many followers of that religion are ignorant (I won't mention the religion, because I feel it would be disrespectful and this forum is for talking about vaping, not religion.) I would love to hear more of what you guys have to say, because hearing someone else's point of view on this topic is helping me to open my eyes about it and not be so closed-minded about "vaping is the only way to go." I guess I just had to hear it from other people. Thank you all, again.

 

[BigBen2k]

It's got a lot to do with perspective:

You can't say "I want you to quit" but you can say "I will fully support any effort to quit, regardless of the expense". In the end, it's cheaper, so it's a win-win.

Think twice, act once.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

Think twice, act once.

......................

 

[williebb123]

i may get a bunch of hates on this but life is too short there are too many women out there that would love that you dont smoke , i say kick her to the curb i would not be with a stinky woman i know that sounds bad but to be happy in life some things have to change i found that out after 25yrs of marriage and it opened my eyes and now after 2yrs im happier than ive ever been in my life

 

[yo419g0tamin]

This is how I got my wife to quit.

So I got my setup and would talk about vaping a lot things about health and cost mostly just to get her to think about it, then after 2 weeks saying I feel great (I really did) and then had her try different flavors, she liked few but I got a match on something so I broke it down since it was three flavors well spearmint was the key and she was onboard and has been analog free since.

 

[Racehorse]

Time, and inclination.

Just ask her if she can replace a few analogs with vaping during the day, a lot of vapers did it that way.

when she is ready she will vape, find her some yummy dessert vapes.

 

[degnr8]

she isn't interested in flavors (this will be interesting), Not sure how we are going to address the "no interest in flavor" thing, but I'm sure it will be frustrating.

This part seems pretty straight forward to me. Get her some tobacco flavored juice (or menthol if that's what she smokes). If she complains it tastes funny you could always go with unflavored.

@OP I agree with the others that you need to back off a bit. Just tell her you'll be happy to help her if she decides to give it a shot and leave something simple laying around she can use if she wants. A variety of flavors and strengths of juices wouldn't hurt either. Somebody help me out here, there's a juice with more of the tobacco alkaloids in it. What's it called?

 

[Steve803]

Show her this video...then tell her it's cheaper and it doesn't have that in it

AND she can get whatever flavor she wants, and not just "ashtray"!!!

That's a great video but it probably won't work to get her to quit. I watched my grandfather die of lung cancer back in the 70's when they were experimenting with radiation and chemotherapy, looked at the jars of black lungs, and even had a lung surgeon explain to process of how he cuts the lower lobes of the lungs out of cancer patients and none of that ever phased me. I started when I was 10 and smoked full time for 37 years. She will need to want to quit before she will make any real effort to do so or even move to vaping full time.

 

[BigBen2k]

...What's it called?

WTA
(whole tobacco alkaloids)

 

[Iffy]

To add to my first response, pick your 'fights' very carefully! 'Cause you're gonna lose... just try to minimize da 'damage'...

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Hi Starlight, I started vaping in late 2010. I smoked for over 22 years prior. My wife thought for sure this was a fad that I would fall out of and did not want to participate at all, completely disinterested. I know my wife very well.. I chose to just do what I knew was the right thing for me. After about 6 months she began to become interested in vaping and asked me to get her a kit. I immediately obliged. I showed her how to assemble the eGo and drip various liquids into the atomizer to test them so that she could get to know what she did and did not like. That kit was used on and off for the next year or so. She asked me to build her a custom box mod(like mine) because the eGo twist(device 4 maybe?) was no longer adequate when she was using it. She still smoked but she eventually moved through 510 dripping atties to the eGo-t atomizers to ce2 to cartomizers and finally decided to put down cigarettes earlier this year. She still to this day wont try any of the tanks or bottom coils or rebuildables,but a 2Ω boge 510xl carto and 5v keeps her vaping. I'm ok with that.

You are her compass. You have to just lead by example, help when its appropriate. When she decides to move away from cigarettes you have to be her support structure. Sadly not everyone we know will decide to quit. We can only be here for those who choose to, when they feel the time is right for them to do so. Be patient, be wise, be humble....Good Luck.

 

[BigBen2k]

To add to my first response, pick your 'fights' very carefully! 'Cause you're gonna lose... just try to minimize da 'damage'...

This is wise, but IMO, often misunderstood.

If/when you say "I will fully support any effort to quit, regardless of the expense", she might take it in a completely different context and think "consider quitting or we're through", even though that's not what you mean.

It's "women logic"; been there...

That's picking a fight, but it's a good one to pick. It'll boil over after a few days, you'll make up, and all will be heavenly again

 

[Ameera]

Here are my thoughts... my husband has never ever smoked but both his parents did.. go figure, he married me.. a smoker. For ten years he would bring up my quitting, off and and on and not too aggressively.. but that was never my deal. I like smoking and knew at some point I would quit, but I was never ever ready. Two daughters later, years and years later.. I decided to quit on my OWN and did it without even telling my husband until 2 days after I quit... She can and will do it when she is ready. I suggest, buying a sweet little easy set up for her.. with 3 basic juices: a tobacco, a misc. mildly fruity flavor and a cinnamon one. I can pretty much guarantee with that array at 24 MG she will like SOMETHING about vaping.. and then you be QUIET.

 

[Dusif]

So, I started vaping two and a half months ago. I started with a V2 Cigs brand cigalike starter kit. I was ecstatic, and I completely quit analogs cold-turkey about a week later. I got my girlfriend to try it as well, and she liked it, but didn't like it enough to quit analogs. She said that it just isn't like smoking a real cigarette, it's just not the same to her.

I even went out of my way to buy her an extra charger, give her my extra automatic battery, and buy her a strong cigarette flavored e-liquid (Torque56 by Halo, also, I'm not a fan of tobacco flavors...I started vaping to AVOID the nasty flavor of cigarettes ). She liked it, but it still wasn't the same to her!

I don't think it was because the nicotine was too low, because the nic content on it was 18mg/ml. I've gotten her to try a wide variety of different flavors, but she's stuck on analogs. I can't stand the way she smells after she smokes, and I feel like I'm kissing an ashtray (like none of us have ever heard THAT before )

So my question is, would you guys recommend any strategies to try to get her to convert? Also, do any of you guys have a similar problem, where your spouse/significant other won't quit smoking even though you've tried to convert them? I'd love to hear your stories, and/or any successful methods that you have used to convert a smoker.

Had the same problem... Ive been vaping for a while now and i hate the smell or cigarettes... Couldnt get her to lay em off and switch... Then i realised something...
Leave her alone and let her smoke... And when you use 150$ on a mod she cant accuse you of over spending


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[NiburianElf]

So, I started vaping two and a half months ago. I started with a V2 Cigs brand cigalike starter kit. I was ecstatic, and I completely quit analogs cold-turkey about a week later. I got my girlfriend to try it as well, and she liked it, but didn't like it enough to quit analogs. She said that it just isn't like smoking a real cigarette, it's just not the same to her.

I even went out of my way to buy her an extra charger, give her my extra automatic battery, and buy her a strong cigarette flavored e-liquid (Torque56 by Halo, also, I'm not a fan of tobacco flavors...I started vaping to AVOID the nasty flavor of cigarettes ). She liked it, but it still wasn't the same to her!

I don't think it was because the nicotine was too low, because the nic content on it was 18mg/ml. I've gotten her to try a wide variety of different flavors, but she's stuck on analogs. I can't stand the way she smells after she smokes, and I feel like I'm kissing an ashtray (like none of us have ever heard THAT before )

So my question is, would you guys recommend any strategies to try to get her to convert? Also, do any of you guys have a similar problem, where your spouse/significant other won't quit smoking even though you've tried to convert them? I'd love to hear your stories, and/or any successful methods that you have used to convert a smoker.

Maybe try a bigger and better setup? Or have you?