Or maybe a combination of the divided weighted/single entry AND win/sit out next contest.
Just trying offer up suggestions.
Just trying offer up suggestions.
Giveaway ideas - have your say in how we run them
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This is such an edgy topic.
First off, Thanks to ECF and the admins for even coordinating these events.
I certainly appreciate the "chats" and feel that I've made some friends here as a result, but repeating the same thing over and over and over and over (get it) just to increase post count for a chance is maddening to me.
I noticed on the latest contest, of the first 10 winners, 7 had 5 or fewer posts in the enormous thread. So spewing posts for posts' sake didn't show any advantage.
I don't do much with social media either, but I did manage a win on an earlier contest through my SINGLE sign-up. Again, that shows me some randomization.
I don't want to gripe without offering solutions, but Robin has a good thought about "splitting" contests. If one wants to participate and throw a hat into the ring - ONE POST should suffice for a portion of the contest. Then, for those who wish to be "chatty", some sort of weighted entry method would be fair.
Or, have two separate threads - one for Single-Post entries and one for "chatworld" Therefore, going into a thread, you KNOW what you're getting into (and hopefully take it for what it's worth.)
I have so much more on which I could comment, but it wouldn't be productive to the cause.
Thank you @low_tar_neil...... Win or Lose, I think it's great what you guys do.
First off, Thanks to ECF and the admins for even coordinating these events.
I certainly appreciate the "chats" and feel that I've made some friends here as a result, but repeating the same thing over and over and over and over (get it) just to increase post count for a chance is maddening to me.
I noticed on the latest contest, of the first 10 winners, 7 had 5 or fewer posts in the enormous thread. So spewing posts for posts' sake didn't show any advantage.
I don't do much with social media either, but I did manage a win on an earlier contest through my SINGLE sign-up. Again, that shows me some randomization.
I don't want to gripe without offering solutions, but Robin has a good thought about "splitting" contests. If one wants to participate and throw a hat into the ring - ONE POST should suffice for a portion of the contest. Then, for those who wish to be "chatty", some sort of weighted entry method would be fair.
Or, have two separate threads - one for Single-Post entries and one for "chatworld" Therefore, going into a thread, you KNOW what you're getting into (and hopefully take it for what it's worth.)
I have so much more on which I could comment, but it wouldn't be productive to the cause.
Thank you @low_tar_neil...... Win or Lose, I think it's great what you guys do.
understood - and you are correct, the amazing wealth of knowledge and information as well as freely shared experience and insight would in no way be impugned - and agreed, it's a CONTEST, it's supposed to be FUN, not overthought, dissected, strategerized or evaluated for pico-precise political correctness... they can be AMAZING tools and resources for helping to build, support and evolve this exceptional community
Or maybe a combination of the divided weighted/single entry AND win/sit out next contest.
Just trying offer up suggestions.
Personally I'm not a fan of the single entry. I think it likely hurts the forum as it discourages discussion.
Say there is a competition going, I make a post:
"Hello @Robino1 ! Good luck everyone!"
You respond!
"Hi @Daddy how have you been?!"
I now have to decide if I am to ignore you, go all in and post like crazy for a chance, or start a private conversation to tell you "I'm great, how are you?!".
Dc you have seen a lot of people say it so if they really think that, they should speak out.
Remember when that guy got banned as he said it was fixed and then he did a massive rant, and then got rude to me and some of the other members?.
I think he got banned for a day and he then he managed to win. Well I would like to hear his opinion as he was vey vocal about it.
LTN
Have you ever considered two thread for a contest, one is chit chat and fun posting. The second not just posting but themed posting where the theme changes daily or every few days depending on the length of the contest. On the themed thread allow a certain amount per day. this gives everyone a fair chance posting and winning on this part.
On the second thread free posting as we do now.
When you go to do a daily draw the first randomizer you run determines the amount from each thread that will be given. you can set up a permanent list for that. some thing like this
Example: Daily draw is 10
10/0
9/1
8/2
7/3
.
.
.
3/7
2/8
1/9
10/0
then do the pick for the prizes accordingly
This would work sort of like a double blind system. Nobody controls how they'll be picked and nobody can influence the pick ratio.
Themes can be pictures or simple little things relating to a holiday season, favorite actor/actress, dog breed, hobby, type of shoe, wildest hair style/color. Limited only by your imagination.
A little something for everybody in every contest.
Have you ever considered two thread for a contest, one is chit chat and fun posting. The second not just posting but themed posting where the theme changes daily or every few days depending on the length of the contest. On the themed thread allow a certain amount per day. this gives everyone a fair chance posting and winning on this part.
On the second thread free posting as we do now.
When you go to do a daily draw the first randomizer you run determines the amount from each thread that will be given. you can set up a permanent list for that. some thing like this
Example: Daily draw is 10
10/0
9/1
8/2
7/3
.
.
.
3/7
2/8
1/9
10/0
then do the pick for the prizes accordingly
This would work sort of like a double blind system. Nobody controls how they'll be picked and nobody can influence the pick ratio.
Themes can be pictures or simple little things relating to a holiday season, favorite actor/actress, dog breed, hobby, type of shoe, wildest hair style/color. Limited only by your imagination.
A little something for everybody in every contest.
Ms Sue - I have indeed noticed a number of folks say it, I just don't believe it has any basis in reality - just my opinion - I believe (again, just my opinion) that the over-arching purpose of the thread is to garner suggestions and/ or insight on how to improve the process... that being said, what would you recommend to improve the contest process?
Are you serious?
IF it was rigged then the forum will loose it's reputation so I think SJ and Neil would care about that.
I don't think that's a good idea to make those that won one sit out the next. For one, it would exclude many forum members in the next contest since there are many prizes given out. And another, what if someone won a not as desirable prize in one contest but then the next competiton/prize is an awesome, must have set up. They'd feel really disadvantaged then. We have no way of knowing what prize each competition will have so nothing to go on in choosing the ones we enter.Or maybe a combination of the divided weighted/single entry AND win/sit out next contest.
Just trying offer up suggestions.
So far, I think the weighted and single entry method is the best/most fair. What would there be to complain about then? Oh wait, someone will come up with something, lol.
You can just 'Like' my post.
I see where you're coming from and yes, it would be a conundrum. Try not to over think this His winning had nothing to do with his rant. Purely luck of the draw, as are ALL the winners. Neil doesn't have time to read all the posts, he just takes the info from outside the thread.
What would the benefit, to ECF, be to have rigged drawings? My mind doesn't work that way so I really am curious as to what it could possibly be...
I'm always serious.
I noticed you neglected to answer any of the questions.
You also have not provided any insight to what you would like to see done.
Just because someone said it doesn't make it true. It's been said in every single contest on this forum for whatever reason.
Actually I like the strategy of forcing people to self monitor which contest they enter and try to win. There is an element of strategy involved then.
Do I enter this contest to win a tank, or shall I hold out and hope a nice mod is in the next contest? Should I enter for this 50 watt mod or should I wait and see what the next one is?
I've said it before, the rules need to be made clearer.
If it's one post which counts as the only entry then state that.
If it's more posts = more entries then state that.
Not everyone can stay posting 24/7 so when they can sign in they don't want to be reading through 100 or so back pages to see what's been said or whatever.
I agree with DC's original early post.
Half the prizes single entry (anyone who has posted to the time of drawing get exactly one entry).
Half the prizes weighted by post count, ideally clip at some moderately low level, say 5 or 10 posts per day. Enough to allow/promote some chit chat. Don't sweat the math too much on clipping, but do state what it is. If someone wants to post a lot they still can, just that they won't get more than 5 or 10 entries for each day in the draw period.
One win per member on the ECF segment of a contest. This has been the rule, just that it should continue to be stated.
CLARITY in stating the rules. They belong in OP, and you need to stick to them.
I've been fortunate in winning often late last year, been able to PIF, it works for me, and the gear does get circulated. I play when/as conditions permit, hopefully add at least a little value/humor from time to time. If a rule is added to forbid prior winners from winning again for X contests it will likely chase away some long term members and some newer-but-really-active members; it's ECF's choice, but I doubt that would have a particularly positive effect overall.
ECF staff do a super job on this, and the suppliers have been really generous.
Half the prizes single entry (anyone who has posted to the time of drawing get exactly one entry).
Half the prizes weighted by post count, ideally clip at some moderately low level, say 5 or 10 posts per day. Enough to allow/promote some chit chat. Don't sweat the math too much on clipping, but do state what it is. If someone wants to post a lot they still can, just that they won't get more than 5 or 10 entries for each day in the draw period.
One win per member on the ECF segment of a contest. This has been the rule, just that it should continue to be stated.
CLARITY in stating the rules. They belong in OP, and you need to stick to them.
I've been fortunate in winning often late last year, been able to PIF, it works for me, and the gear does get circulated. I play when/as conditions permit, hopefully add at least a little value/humor from time to time. If a rule is added to forbid prior winners from winning again for X contests it will likely chase away some long term members and some newer-but-really-active members; it's ECF's choice, but I doubt that would have a particularly positive effect overall.
ECF staff do a super job on this, and the suppliers have been really generous.
I think that chatting on the contest threads is fun, however, I'm one of the people that have little time to participate. I have a farm and work more hours than most people with 8 to 5 jobs! LOL! I also don't have a "phone" to post from when I'm out doing chores or other work, and I don't do Facebook or any of those other things. I have a PC in the basement, and I come down here on my breaks to check in with ECF and see what's happening. So that means I have less chance of winning than someone with a phone or iPad that doesn't have a job, so what? At least I have A CHANCE. And that's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, as my daddy always used to say.
I know the draws are random, but they're random throughout the whole batch of posts that are out there. A person with one post has one chance. Fair enough. A person with a hundred posts has a hundred chances. So what if you got one "official" post per day? Chat could continue as it does now, and the threads could continue being fun and competitive, but each person would make their first post of the day (or two or three, or however many it was decided would count) as a numbered and dated post, then continue to chat the rest of the day with unnumbered posts that wouldn't count as "official entries." I don't know how difficult it would be to select from those numbered and dated posts, but at least it would seem to level the playing field a bit more, and make everyone who participates feel like they're on equal footing with everyone else. Even *I* can find time to post once or twice a day on a contest thread. Not a hundred times, but once or twice, sure, no problem. I do enjoy the chat, though, and I REALLY enjoy the pics that people post. That's part of the enjoyment of these contests.
~Lannie
I know the draws are random, but they're random throughout the whole batch of posts that are out there. A person with one post has one chance. Fair enough. A person with a hundred posts has a hundred chances. So what if you got one "official" post per day? Chat could continue as it does now, and the threads could continue being fun and competitive, but each person would make their first post of the day (or two or three, or however many it was decided would count) as a numbered and dated post, then continue to chat the rest of the day with unnumbered posts that wouldn't count as "official entries." I don't know how difficult it would be to select from those numbered and dated posts, but at least it would seem to level the playing field a bit more, and make everyone who participates feel like they're on equal footing with everyone else. Even *I* can find time to post once or twice a day on a contest thread. Not a hundred times, but once or twice, sure, no problem. I do enjoy the chat, though, and I REALLY enjoy the pics that people post. That's part of the enjoyment of these contests.
~Lannie
Well obviously, but when you see the same people say it then there has to be a reason for them saying it.
I hope other people speak out and say why they have said it.
For me, I don't care what the rules are, as long as I know them. For instance, I didn't know that you had more chances when posting more, haven't seen that in the opening post. This will not encourage me to go on a spamming rampage but it would be nice to know
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