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liblue1

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Good morning Treefam...I have some catching up to do.....I saw the news & watched them spin it every witch way they could......Like I said yesterday...they are going to do what ever they want to do....but I want to read what you all say....& get some coffee....
 

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Thoughts and prayers for your wife jpf...

Not sure what I will end up getting into today.

Idiots seem overly annoying today. For some reason, people think my house is for sale and keep knocking on my door. First I lose a day this week and now this.. must really be Twilight Zone around here today or something.
 

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Well - "MoringNite" - "Tree People" . . .


Start of a NEW DAY . . .
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Time for - COFFEE
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Wifey's not doing well today, I got called home from work yesterday, and it looks like I'm not going to be able to go in today. We will probably end up at the hospital.

NOT GOOD - "You" know how I feel . . . "GOOD VIBES" . . . always being sent to "You" and "Wifey" . . . :D


NOW - As for the link to the petition and the following post not to sign . . . For the moment I will refrain from personally commenting given how annoyed I am right now to have seen this being posted as it was and given that my reply would not be appropriate . . .

As was posted elsewhere on ECF in reply - It is "Your" choice to sign or not sign:

One very, well two, very major problems with this post.

First: "wait"... No. The FDA is not waiting, they are moving forward. And yes this is poorly worded and hastily put together but if something is not said it could he said too late and never reach those who have any actual influence in matters like this. True the regulations are only "proposed" but at one time, Obama-care was only proposed.

Second, "don't sign - just wait"... no, honestly I am already stocking up and planning an exit strategy. This is not even close to the time to wait simply because of spelling errors.

I would highly suggest that anyone who is able create a more sensibly worded petition and that we all sign both but it has always been rash and determined action that has shown the determination that has created this country and what once made it great.

Waiting for CASAA does not make your voice heard immediately.

I am a member of CASAA and value them greatly but, even if it is very grassroots and even if it fails, at least it is doing something. I will simply NOT be told what I can or cannot do to save my own life by a government I neither chose nor approve of.

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While I agree it's not very well written I don't see the big deal in signing it as long as you follow casaa and add your name to the "real" petition when it's available.
You may also want to follow this site by Bill Godshall
FDA Proposal For Deeming Regulation
 
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liblue1

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Yes JPF...well wishes being sent......I had a big rant over all of this.....but I changed my mind(for now) and decided to keep it positive today....I have plenty to say about the whole ordeal....I know in the long run they will do what they are going to do.....and no matter what we say....it won't change it.....
 

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Good mornin treefam!
Barely made it to work with seconds to spare!! almost tardy, which would have cost me a bonus kicker of $40 by being tardy! 15 seconds was the difference in $40.. but i made it!

AND, i get to compete in the champions 'ball toss' (beer pong) game today for an unknown grand prize!!!


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glad to see your date went week, it's nice to be by someone you can actually be civil with huh.
civil yes, fun yes, amorous yes, mutual - mostly..
My ex Col (name abbreviated for convenience, anonymity is nearly assured), whom i took the show on wednesday,
is already weirding me out a little.....
 

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Thanks for all the prayers and good vibes. This is not something that is not going to just get better. Those that have been around know this is a ongoing problem and something we'll have to live with for a long time to come. She needs all the prayers and good vibes she can get. We really appreciate everyone here.
 

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Yes JPF...well wishes being sent......I had a big rant over all of this.....but I changed my mind(for now) and decided to keep it positive today....I have plenty to say about the whole ordeal....I know in the long run they will do what they are going to do.....and no matter what we say....it won't change it.....

i will sign both. and another if necessary.
if there is a small iota that my sigs will help the effort that we all support, im in like flynn.


about to play ball n cup. wish me lucks!
 

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Best of luck to you LD...I know you'll win......glad to see you will also get your bonus this month....if you are not late....
thanks Blue! starting in a minute :)
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Thanks for all the prayers and good vibes. This is not something that is not going to just get better. Those that have been around know this is a ongoing problem and something we'll have to live with for a long time to come. She needs all the prayers and good vibes she can get. We really appreciate everyone here.

I keep her in my prayers, i hope her health improves. it must be really difficult to have such a volatile state of health. Love be with you and your family my friend.
 

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1. Just read that they are only going to allow tobacco flavors with the new regulations, you have to be kidding me!

That's not true, yasmin. In fact, there have been some politicians directly critical of the FDA proposal for not including this.

As far as the petition is concerned, I don't think it does any harm to sign it. At the same time, I don't think it's likely to do any good either. I get a little frustrated when petitions like this are put together without giving it more than a couple of minutes of thought. The most glaring problem with the petition is that it asks the President to "veto" the proposal. The only thing that a President can veto is a bill passed by Congress--in a sense the petition is moot because there is nothing to veto. I thought it was odd, too, given the substance of the petition that "health" was overlooked as a keyword. These are just basic things that shouldn't have slipped through the cracks.

Please do not misinterpret me--this is very serious, and people should be very concerned and diligent to stand up for their rights and beliefs. At the same time, I wish people would be just a bit more careful and think before writing these kinds of "gut reaction" petitions. To be honest, it would be much more effective to contact your senators and the representative for your congressional district--these people need your vote to keep their jobs. (The irony of me saying this is that Puerto Rico has no representation in the Senate, and we have one non-voting delegate in the House.)

Anyhow, I'm not trying to start any controversy here. As I said, I don't think there's any harm in signing the petition.

I hope everyone is having a nice day.
 

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That's not true, yasmin. In fact, there have been some politicians directly critical of the FDA proposal for not including this.

As far as the petition is concerned, I don't think it does any harm to sign it. At the same time, I don't think it's likely to do any good either. I get a little frustrated when petitions like this are put together without giving it more than a couple of minutes of thought. The most glaring problem with the petition is that it asks the President to "veto" the proposal. The only thing that a President can veto is a bill passed by Congress--in a sense the petition is moot because there is nothing to veto. I thought it was odd, too, given the substance of the petition that "health" was overlooked as a keyword. These are just basic things that shouldn't have slipped through the cracks.

Please do not misinterpret me--this is very serious, and people should be very concerned and diligent to stand up for their rights and beliefs. At the same time, I wish people would be just a bit more careful and think before writing these kinds of "gut reaction" petitions. To be honest, it would be much more effective to contact your senators and the representative for your congressional district--these people need your vote to keep their jobs. (The irony of me saying this is that Puerto Rico has no representation in the Senate, and we have one non-voting delegate in the House.)

Anyhow, I'm not trying to start any controversy here. As I said, I don't think there's any harm in signing the petition.

I hope everyone is having a nice day.

SO DITTO ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ AND - I couldn't agree any more . . .

Funny thing - since I signed the petition - I just got a response from "By Mitch Zeller, the Director of the Food and Drug Administration's Center for Tobacco Products." AND - While it may have just been a generic letter sent to everyone who signed the petition, it shows that it was seen and also provided a link to be "heard" . . .

"The opportunity to comment on FDA's proposed rule is now open and comments are due on July 9, 2014. We encourage you to do so, and to provide any data and information you may have to support your comments."​

AND - In the email letter I got it also provided the following:


So - The question now really becomes are "We" being heard even if the petition is poorly written ? ? ? Who knows, but the petition is being seen and getting some attention . . .

i won a laptop!

CONGRATS ! ! ! :thumbs:
 

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Thanks everyone!!
Quite a score! After winning the first round, they partenered us up with our managers for a final bout.
My manager won over $200 cash for being on my team!!
i think he will leave me be on the internet for a week, lol.

I may opt to get the receipt and return it for the cash (337$) on monday. i have a 6 month old laptop, that is probably on par with this (both hp).
Wouldnt this be a better option, to cash out?
or, i could give it to family or friend.

i could use the monies.
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