Glycerine?

[5cardstud]

I found some glycerine today at the drugstore and on the back it said glycerine anahydrous 97 or 99 % is that vegetable glycerine or not? It said it was for skin I think to soften skin. They ha 3 different sizes and manufacturers but none said vegetable glycerine.

 

[Tiger]

IMO If it doesn't say it, don't take that chance.

 

[5cardstud]

I'm not. Thats why I ask. I've been looking everywhere and can't find it except online. I'm trying to find some local. I've looked at Michaels, Joanns, walmart, and everywhere else people say they have found it.

 

[KarrMcDebt]

To know for sure, you'd have to call the maker and ask them directly.

As a general rule, if it does not say USP in the name of the product, its iffy at best.

I have some for trade that was made by Proctor and Gamble, it specificaly says USP in the name, and came with a lab reports on it. On the first page, at the top it says Superol V (for veg) Glycerine USP (Glycerol), 99.7% pure (0.3%water).

Not all glycerine is veg, some is kosher, and some is non kosher, (I'm not of a Jewish background, but if I remember right, that would mean that there is animal products included. But don't quote me, I don't want to be sued. LOL)

I was not able to find pure VG that I trusted localy, I was able to finaly find USP PG at a local pharmacy, (if you need it, look for a "compounding pharmacy".

Both MidWest Vapor and DIY Flavor Shack sell it, as do many others I'm sure, or I have some available for trade.

Hope that helps.

 

[Captain Morgan]

There are three basic types of glycerine, based upon derivation – tallow-based, vegetable-based and synthetic.

Tallow-based glycerine is derived from animal fat (non kosher) with low grades being used in resins, but higher grades (95.5% and 99% pure) often being substitued for vegetable and synthetic glycerines. Vegetable glycerine (kosher) is derived primarily from coconut oil or palm kernel oil. Synthetic glycerine is derived from petrochemicals and made by Dow Chemical. Synthetic glycerine is used for certain drug and pharmaceutical applications.

So, if it doesn't say Vegetable, it could be tallow-based or synthetic, neither of which I would want to vape. Also, as noted by KarrMcDebt, make sure it has USP on the label indicating it is a food grade of glycerine. Vegetable glycerine that is over one year old or off specs for some reason (darker color, etc.), will be downgraded from USP to a technical grade and used in soaps, lotions, etc.

 

[Captain Morgan]

In the "Vegetable Glycerin vs HUMCO glycerin-warning!" thread, markarich159 wrote:

Go to the skin care aisle of most any pharmacy and you'll find a small(usually 6oz) bottle labled Glycerine, USP(Some pharmacies don't carry outright , but will special order for you). The label may have it listed as CVS Glycerine, USP or Rite Aid Glycerine, USP or Humco Glycerine, USP or Family Pharmacy Glycerine, USP etc.. you get my point. Whatever it's labeled, it's Glycerine, USP 99.5% anhydrous(meaning 0.5% water). It will cost anywhere from $3 to $6 for 6oz.(CHEAP) This is vegetable glycerine, absolutely, positively, no doubt. How do I know this? I'm a pharmacist. All OTC glycerine,USP is made by 1 single manufacturer, HUMCO. It is then contract packaged into the different pharmacy labeled bottles. I've personally called HUMCO and spoke with their QA(quality assurance) person. He assured me that HUMCO's Glycerine is in fact Vegetable source Glycerine. The reason it's labeled Glycerine and not Vegetable Glycerine is because #1 it is listed in the USP as Glycerine, USP and therefore(in order to keep the USP certification) must be labeled as it's listed in the USP. #2 it would cause confusion as Glycerine is Glycerine(regardless of the source - chemically 1,2,3-propane triol), to add the moniker VEGETABLE, makes it sound like it's two different and distinct products, it isn't. Also, USP grade Glycerine is the purest you can get. Food Grade "vegetable Glycerine" you get in health food store saying 99.9% is BS. Since they do not have to meet any standard(such as USP standards) they could say anything, they could say 10000% pure. If you get USP grade, you know you are getting exactly what is labeled(within allowable USP limits) and it is made to most stringent requirements available in the US. (i.e. USP stands for United States Pharmacopeia- drugs have meet higher standards then foods do). Kashrut(kosher) laws are Jewish religious dietary laws having to do with the preparation of food products and really have nothing to do with the labeled purity of the product. Also, Kashrut(kosher) laws are jurisdictional(handled differently in different places). In some cases a rabbi must come to the manufacturer and verify processes and equipment conform to kosher law and in some places it's enough that the manufacturer says or thinks he is conforming to the kosher laws. In any case USP and Kosher are 2 different things. There is no such listing in the USP for "Kosher Glycerine". To the people who are feeling naseous using pharmacy bought Glycerine, USP, it may be a placebo effect(thinking your not using the real VG) or you may have a sensitivity to Glycerine(unlikely). But it is not because the Pharmacy bought Glycerine,USP is inferior or NOT Vegetable Glycerine.​

From this post, I take it that what you found is Vegetable Glycerine, but may not be food grade unless it has the USP designation.

 

[KarrMcDebt]

The Glycerine I picked up is made by Proctor and Gamble. Here is a rundown of their products. (I have the Superol V).

 

[5cardstud]

Thank you all for your help. I now have the answer I seeked. You people are great.

 

[gasp]

ok, dumb noob question.....what is the glycerine used for?

 

[Captain Morgan]

ok, dumb noob question.....what is the glycerine used for?

The e-juice that we all vape is composed of three things: 1) A base liquid that produces the vapor; 2) a water based flavoring, and: 3) nicotine in varying strengths (0-36mg). The base is either Propylene Glycol (PG) or Vegetable Glycerine (VG), or a mixture of both. Juice with PG as a base will be more flavorful than one with a VG base, but produce less vapor. A lot of vapers are into do-it-yourself (DIY) mixing of e-juices and will use an 80/20 or 70/30 PG to VG ratio in an attempt to have both flavor and lots of vapor. If the resultant liquid is too thick, sometimes a forth ingredient of water or 100 proof Vodka will also be added to thin out the juice. By DIY mixing of your own e-juice, you can save some dollars.

 

[Taelor]

.....and Captain summed it up in a nutshell.......nice


.....I hate seeing a question to be answered with a link, just too lead them to yet another link.

 

[Kurt]

I get my VG at Whole Foods, Heritage brand. Not as cheap as others, but I like it, and there is no doubt it is not animal based. You can also get glycerin from CVS, but it might not be 100% veggie based. People do use it though.

 

[crazybry79]

Sorry to digg up a month old thread.....but I really love pictures!!!

I belive that this is the stuff that The Captain was talking of....

I found it today at The Evil Empire, near hand lotions. I really had to dig for it, it was all by itself, and I had asked.....the clerk couldn't find it, said they didnt carry it (ALSO said they didnt carry PG....even though I bought some there 2 weeks ago...)

$3.48 I belive. Im going to try it out. If it works well....I think I'll go buy 'em out.

 

[DrkLashes]

If you have a local health food, vitamin, or organic food shop near you they may carry it as well.