Go Variable or Go Home

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scinsc

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I mostly agree with the OP that variable volt is the overall best option. I also can understand that some people are fine with weak battery small devices. (although I suspect that many would not be if they ever tried a better battery PV) What bothers me, however, is when some new person comes on here and says they want more throat hit or they want their PV to vape more like an analog and people on here with no experience vaping at higher levels recommend that the new person should get another weak battery device. And also try to tell them it gives good throat hit. Or that throat hit is a product of the e-liquid you use. That is just pointing the new person towards throwing away more money and is misleading. I believe that what most new people want is the "inhaled feel" of an analog and they want it to be consistent. They won't get that with a weak battery PV especially an auto battery one. I would rather save the new person money than lead them towards more frustration. Variable voltage devices will give the user the most flexibility and control.

I agree with your post. I also agree that lots of folks are reluctant to spend big bucks just starting out. I advise new folks to get a 5v passthrough and a sample pack of preloaded cartomizers with high nic content to try it out. To me this is close to the cigarette feel and will help them decide if vaping will work for them. If it doesn’t you’ve only spent $25. On the other hand if it works go for a vv. I went through a couple of hundred bucks before I found my Buzz in June. Haven’t spent a dime on PV’s since.
 
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Yes agree if you got the $ vv is the way to go wright off the batt.Now though if it fails you have a warranty great but have to wait! thats why i always have more than one PV.

I also agree that having more than one is a good idea. I suspect most of us have 2-3 PV's. I also agree that buying an expensive larger battery model before you even know it you will like vaping might not be the way to go. I think suggesting at least starting with an eGo/Riva is much better than something like a small 4081 or 401 model.
 

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I agree with your post. I also agree that lots of folks are reluctant to spend big bucks just starting out. I advise new folks to get a 5v passthrough and a sample pack of preloaded cartomizers with high nic content to try it out. To me this is close to the cigarette feel and will help them decide if vaping will work for them. If it doesn’t you’ve only spent $25. On the other hand if it works go for a vv. I went through a couple of hundred bucks before I found my Buzz in June. Haven’t spent a dime on PV’s since.

Good suggestion!
 

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I mostly agree with the OP that variable volt is the overall best option. I also can understand that some people are fine with weak battery small devices. (although I suspect that many would not be if they ever tried a better battery PV) What bothers me, however, is when some new person comes on here and says they want more throat hit or they want their PV to vape more like an analog and people on here with no experience vaping at higher levels recommend that the new person should get another weak battery device. And also try to tell them it gives good throat hit. Or that throat hit is a product of the e-liquid you use. That is just pointing the new person towards throwing away more money and is misleading. I believe that what most new people want is the "inhaled feel" of an analog and they want it to be consistent. They won't get that with a weak battery PV especially an auto battery one. I would rather save the new person money than lead them towards more frustration. Variable voltage devices will give the user the most flexibility and control.

I totally agree.
I understand that no PV is 100% for everyone that want's to vape.
PV opinions vary greatly dependent upon what one has used.
 

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Its not really a huge outlay of cash for a newbie considering we spend so much on all the different atomizers and cartomizers and PVs trying our best to stay off the analogs. I can see how the suppliers would be upset about being stuck with all the low tech PVs. One click on that provari site nothing compares unless you like vaping out of an overpriced wood box, haha.
 

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3.7V does make the majority of vapers happy. Nothing wrong with that at all, we all have our personal sweet spot. One thing newer vapers might misunderstand is that a 3.7V Mod is usually a true 3.7V vs their eGo, Riva, Leo,etc. that are marketed as 3.7V devices but are lucky to hit 3.2V on a good day. That half volt or better does matter quite a bit!
 

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Truer words were never spoken!! LOL. After reading what you posted I thought, "I wish I had all the money I spent on different pv's, atomizers, cartos, etc. trying to find my "sweet spot" with all my different juices!" Although I do not, as of yet, own a variable voltage pv, I fully intend on "rewarding" myself with one when I make it to my 6 month mark of being off of analogs :) I DO however, own Provapes "Provape-1" and it has set a new benchmark in my vaping experience that no other pv has been able to accomplish. With a true 3.7v pv, the juices that I used to find boring and tasteless have now become some of my fav's! Also, I can now comfortably drip using my LR306 attys, which are now the ONLY ones I will use.

Still loving it huh???? I still use mine too with Cisco LR306's but it's big brother the Vari is my goto unit. This unit still amazes me. Waiting on the Infinity now. Should be here by Friday. Happy vapes
 

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3.7V does make the majority of vapers happy. Nothing wrong with that at all, we all have our personal sweet spot. One thing newer vapers might misunderstand is that a 3.7V Mod is usually a true 3.7V vs their eGo, Riva, Leo,etc. that are marketed as 3.7V devices but are lucky to hit 3.2V on a good day. That half volt or better does matter quite a bit!

I'm sure some vapers are fine with small PV's and little throat hit. But I also suspect that many who vape with small battery devices have never vaped a good 5 volt or VV PV before and thus don't really understand how different it is, not to mention how much more consistent they are.
 
The issue for most beginners is that most VV PV's are sold in pieces. They're already overwhelmed enough by the depth of the culture and the variety out there. Alacart ordering just makes it worse for them. $200 for the ProVari base model with a 510 adapter. Are you kidding me? No noob is going to get this if they still aren't sure that vaping is for them. I've been vaping on and off for a year and even I don't want to shell out that money for something I'm not 100% sure about. My Tornado has been working great for a month now. I may upgrade to a VV eventually but still as a "pseudo noob" I'm going with something that is very hassle free and doesn't try to drag me too deep into the culture.
 

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The issue for most beginners is that most VV PV's are sold in pieces. They're already overwhelmed enough by the depth of the culture and the variety out there. Alacart ordering just makes it worse for them. $200 for the ProVari base model with a 510 adapter. Are you kidding me? No noob is going to get this if they still aren't sure that vaping is for them. I've been vaping on and off for a year and even I don't want to shell out that money for something I'm not 100% sure about. My Tornado has been working great for a month now. I may upgrade to a VV eventually but still as a "pseudo noob" I'm going with something that is very hassle free and doesn't try to drag me too deep into the culture.

I agree. But there is at least one $100 VV alternative that comes in a kit and is made by a very reputable company. I also agree that most beginners will want to know vaping will work for them before investing their hard-earned money. As I said before the best way to find out is to buy a passthrough and a five pack of preloaded cartomizers. If a typical 510 kit is $50 and we all know most folks will add to that down the road doesn't it make sense to go ahead and buy a VV and not have to spend any more? Another bonus is that if you don’t like it, a quality VV will be easy to sell in the classifieds here on ECF. I have a VV and I haven't spent a dime on a PV in 8 months and see no need to buy another.
 
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